Important Announcement - is seven days to God a billion years to humans? Forum

@JadenG. do you know the Living Stream Ministry? you might wanna read some of their books. they are really good.

#53 Apr 05th 2008, 2:22pm

Romans 13:1-2 to be exact. "Let every person be subject to the authorities over him, for there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are ordained by god. 2. so then he who resists the authority opposes God's ordination, and those who oppose will receive judgment to themselves." (sorry to bring it up again but i found it after looking a good while.)

#54 Apr 05th 2008, 2:26pm

penspot

No Iv'e never read their books. I haven't even heard of them. What are they about?

#55 Apr 06th 2008, 12:38pm

http://www.lsm.org/lsm-statement-faith.html

http://www.lsm.org

they publish books about everything pretty much, from the experience of God to how to receive him, bibles, life studies (taking each book of the bible and explaining it sorta) and books by these two brothers in the Lord watchman nee and witness lee. the books are really, really good, try going the websites above. and living stream ministry is not a cult; some people just say that. i hope you can get some of the books!!!

#56 Apr 07th 2008, 4:37am

Wii Master

Okay, don't get me wrong, I love my country. But what does everyone think about the Middle East? (Not those of you who live there, your opinions would be accurate - we don't want that)

The stereotype is pretty much this: Everyone is an evil muslim that only thinks about killing himself, at least 100 people, 10 babies, and 5 priests, just so he can have his 70+ virgins in heaven. Oh, and don't buy a car either, each floorboard is lined with no less than 6 nukes.

Now, that's a little extreme, isn't it? Well, that's akin to saying that all Americans are morbidly obese pigs who don't care about other human beings as long as they have enough gas to get to the local Wal-Mart so they can buy a gun made by an opressed Asian child and use it to enslave an innocent child adopted from Africa! Kinda ridiculous if you think about it.

~"you follow the government to a certain extent. grrrrr... how do I explain this..."~

Owlreader, I think you mean the social contract concept put foward during the Renaisance. It's a contract between the people of a nation to give up some of their liberties to give power to a group of chosen people. In return, this group of people, the government, would protect the citizens of the country both from outside threats, (a military) and themselves. (A justice system) When a government breaks the social contract by becoming a tyranny, the citizens have the moral right to overthrow that government - by force if necessary.

Now, America may seem like a tyranny when it is put through the propoganda filters of foreign countries, (and believe me, we have our own) but it still does not infringe on the rights of its own people. Other country's rights however, have not been so sacred. I'm not going to pretend to support our government's descion to invade Iraq. You can't take out a terrorist group by taking down a government. In fact, by doing so, we lost (a lot) of credibility on the global level. Let's not forget where Osama's location was at the start of the war. Afghanistan. But just because our government is hypocritical, doesn't mean our people are. Bush won by a very small margin, and since 9/11, his approval rating has declined. Now, it is currently sitting around twenty percent. That figure doesn't relate directly to the war in Iraq, but it probably does indicate the general consensus. We don't really want to be there. So maybe our government has violated the social contract on a global level. But think about it. In less then a year, the Bush administration is out of power, and house cleaning can really take place. So a 'Down with America' extremist rant isn't very realistic. It's not going to happen. It may get you quite a few replies... but it's not going to happen.

Also, you should probably put a disclaimer on your picture. Since no one follows the above thirteen rule, some eight year-old girl may click into your picture and be scarred for life. That may be your goal for an American, but what if the person isn't tainted by the blood of the west, hm? Think about it.

EDIT:

Sorry I kinda diverged from your book topic. I'm new to the forum. ^_^

#57 Apr 14th 2008, 9:57pm . Edited Apr 14th 2008, 9:58pm

enrjy2xs

Well I think you over-generalized a fair amount in your comments. Kind of ironic since you seem to be arguing against over-generalization. :) But you did have some good points as well. I agree with your overall message. I would just have to say that I think you were far too gentle with the administrator of this forum. A disclaimer would certainly be required as the very minimal level of decency; but it also needs to be stated that such grotesquely sadistic malice of the kind this person demonstrates, no matter what group of people it is directed towards, is utterly and horrifically wrong. Period.

#58 Apr 15th 2008, 1:03am

whose picture?

sorry if this is considered spamming.

#59 Apr 15th 2008, 4:41am

Wii Master

In the very first post, there's a link at the bottom to a picture of a soldier with his head blown open. No exaggeration. As for the generalizations, yeah, I suppose I did - it was kind of a rant. Sorry 'bout that.

#60 Apr 15th 2008, 3:13pm

BubblyShell22

Well, the admin is Bandgeek, so he/she should be the one navigating this topic. The original poster who wrote this message clearly has some issues.

#61 Apr 23rd 2008, 8:35am

Hmm... there was some debate going on in here! First of all; I don't excactly love America but I don't really hate it either... I just... don't care... and think it's too overrated... as an example; when there was the IOC summit in Copenhagen all the media was going crazy because Obama came for just a few hours. Nevermind that the Brasilian president (who, btw, had a little more success in the matter...) had already been here for some days... as my mum put it "it's like it's the world president who's visiting."

Gas prices (which Bush TRIED to get lowered).

But... don't you get it? It's a good thing if the gas prices are raised! That way less people take their cars... less people taking cars means... less polution! :D

And... the only reason I wanted Bush as president was because I was worried about the democrats trying to wipe God out of every U.S. aspect such as the pledge, the currency, and the motto.

And that, my friend, is called secularism! You guys should be happy and proud that you live in a country with no sodding state church! Yet you do whatever you can to give Christianity a higher rank than other religions! As for the pledge; what if you get a President who isn't Christian?

#62 Oct 04th 2009, 10:00am . Edited Oct 04th 2009, 10:33am

The Helpers Light

Believe in Jesus. Believe God. Or you will BURN IN HELL. The Helper as told me to tell you that message has been twisted. The truth has been hidden. Follow the Helper and you will truely be saved, within the name of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. Bless be of his name. Burn all those who defy him.

#63 Oct 04th 2009, 10:55pm . Edited Oct 04th 2009, 10:56pm

Btw... I never really understood that thing about burning flags... (they burned the Danish flag during the Muhammed-crisis...) come on... it's a flag! Freaking pieces of fabric sewn together! (That be said I'd prefer making the Libyan flag any day...) Flags don't fall from the sky...

#64 Oct 07th 2009, 2:51am

Well, flags are seen as the symbol of a country. And getting burned really hurts. And burning a flag without proper ceremony is extremely disrespectful.

#65 Oct 16th 2009, 4:40pm

They burned the Danish flag pretty much during the Muhammed crisis... I didn't feel anything...

(And... like the Danish-Egyptian comedian Omar Marzouk said in a show "It would've been the perfect example of Danish self-ironi if we'd gone out and burned flags ourselves... then this guy could stand in Pakistan 'HEY!!! THAT'S MY IDEA!!!' But he couldn't really be the one who started... it would've sent the wrong signals...)

Besides... my little comment about flags (not) falling from the sky... well... I think we (Danes) are the only people with that sort of legend...

#66 Oct 17th 2009, 12:41am

BubblyShell22

Hmmm, you have a point there. For me, seeing an American flag get burned is the ultimate disrespect. It just shows how much people really despise our country. I'm not saying America is perfect, but I'm not going to burn a flag.

#67 Oct 19th 2009, 7:41am

Perhaps it because as... I said... I don't really see it as a symbol but just... pieces of fabric sewn together! Should there be rules against destroying those small paper-flags? They're essentially the same...

#68 Oct 19th 2009, 9:19am

I get your point. If I saw my country's flag burning and I saw someone set a human being on fire I'd try to help the human being not some lifeless flag.

I don't think there are any rules against destroying those. They're probably too small and cheaply made to be thought of as important.

#69 Oct 20th 2009, 10:28am

Could the rules with big flags be a leftover from the time where flags maybe were more... difficult to make and therefore only for the rich and powerful?

#70 Oct 20th 2009, 12:48pm

Could the rules with big flags be a leftover from the time where flags maybe were more... difficult to make and therefore only for the rich and powerful?

I have no idea. Makes sense to me if it was, though.

#71 Oct 20th 2009, 12:52pm

Yeah...

But the funny thing is... when it comes to my own opinion... even though I basically don't really care about flags I'd never harm (not even write in) a book! (Well... of course I'd write in those books which you are supposed to write it... but other than that... no!)

#72 Oct 20th 2009, 2:10pm

Most of the time I'm like you but not with my community college textbooks.

They're almost all used and I underline whatever I have to remember.

#73 Oct 20th 2009, 2:15pm

Well... considering that we only borrowthem from the school and I know how annoying it is to get a book where all sorts of places are underlined...

#74 Oct 21st 2009, 12:04am

Well... considering that we only borrowthem from the school and I know how annoying it is to get a book where all sorts of places are underlined...

Oh shoot. I forgot to explain that all of my textbooks have been bought and are mine.

#75 Oct 21st 2009, 4:53am

Yeah... I guessed as much... :D

#76 Oct 21st 2009, 11:45am

Samantha Batt Vampiress

I live inthe USA.... personally, I think that it's not the best place to live... but it's one of the better countries in my opinion. Now, Obama's currently trying to push this Health-Care plan on us. He acts like that's our top priority right now... and it's not. Sure, Health-Care is important but I was satisfied with the currently Health-Care thing until Obama created all this chaos about it.

Now, there's a rumor going around that he wants to make children go to school seven days a week, for longer hours, and all year 'round. He says that it will keep more kids from dropping out... wrong! I know for a fact that since there emotional hormones are on overdrive during the teenage years, kids are likely to drop out of scholol because they feel pressured by their peers and intiminated by the work and the pressure of getting good enough grades for college. Adding more pressure is definitely NOT the answer. Rumor has it that Obama thinks that we aren't as smart as other countries because we aren't in school as much. We aren't the country with the lowest grades! Sure, there's room for improvement but adding more pressure doesn't help the situation at all.

I just think that we might be a tad better off if McCain was president, Obama could be impeached. Oh, and don't any of you start with all this racist sh*t because I will beat the crap out of you. A lot of people have gotten on my case online because I'm white and I don't like Obama. I've been called racist a lot and it's really getting on my d*mn nerves.

~Dark~

#77 Oct 22nd 2009, 2:08pm

But that's just one thing I don't get about the Health-Care thing! Yeah... of course Private Health-Care is fine if you can afford it! Which it unfortunately, not even in our part of the world, isn't everyone who can! The last thing I heard was that puplic Health-Care should be an alternativ to private! I remember watching a TV show where there was a guy who, despite being really ill, hadn't been able to go to the hospital because he couldn't afford it! Now... that's just WRONG!!! If you're ill you should be able to go see a doctor no matter how much money you've got!

#78 Oct 23rd 2009, 2:25am

SonnyGoten

Seven days a week you say!? Damn, that's a load! I remember our own government doing something similar not so long ago, not with days, but with a minimum requirement of hours per year. Students all around the country started protesting.

I think Obama would be making a mistake here; school is not about quantity but about quality. If he wants to have less kids drop out, then he should do something about the quality of the teachers, the books, the facilities, etc. Not the amount of time that kids are required to go to school. Of course, having kids go to school freely in after-school-hours so they can do homework is something else; in fact, that might be a very interesting concept.

But quality is still much more important for a school than quantity. If kids can understand what you're teaching them, they're more likely to stick around for the exams, because they get the feeling that they can actually master it.

#79 Oct 25th 2009, 4:58am . Edited Oct 25th 2009, 5:00am