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dark waffle

okayy your friend is wrong on so many points. ppl can change over three years.. i know i wasnt the same person i was three years ago. ive liked someone and then liked someone else. it happens. sakura can grow to love someone else. her life didnt completely change tho. shes still sakura haruno. but now she older more mature wayy stronger and useful, not whinie, and sees things more clearly. she got to see naruto in a new light and thats why she started to like him.

#401 Nov 01st, 12:50pm
NIPAH-YAOIDUCKY

Haha yea... she's tends to be stupid sometimes... *cough* All the time *Cough*

#402 Nov 01st, 12:59pm
darkestdepths90

From the look of it, we won't have to worry about this horrible pairing coming about in the manga, Naruto called BS to her confession.

#403 Nov 01st, 3:21pm
iiTakashi-kun

Please, Please can we all agree Sakura is so shallow she goes from loving Sasuke *cough*emo*cough* to Naruto or vice versa its doesn't matter she can't make up her damn mind!

*storms out of the room*

P.S I love a good storm off :D

#404 Nov 01st, 7:30pm
Dreary Somebody

iiTakashi, you have just brought up stupid and overused argument #1.

A person is not "shallow" for changing her opinion of an absent person over the course of three years. Not anywhere close. Especially if said person, prior to his absence, broke her heart and almost killed her friend. If anything, it would show STRENGTH of character if she was willing to give up on Sasuke instead of hopelessly clinging.

#405 Nov 01st, 8:38pm
fisah

^

except the reasons she gave were shallow. she said naruto was popular now, not a deadlast and everybody loved him. her entire confession was basically her rationalising the reasons why she shouldn't love sasuke anymore (HE BROKE MA HEART. HE'S A CRIMINAL NAO) and should love naruto. oh and let's not forget a woman's heart is fickle, lmao that line basically made me anti-sakura :( so i hope she's lying.

also her opinion didn't really change over the course of three years, wasn't it after the PAIN arc when sakura was the main person yelling about how sasuke wasn't evil and crying her eyes out when karui berated her?

#406 Nov 02nd, 8:00am
Dreary Somebody

The last chapter's confession was an OBVIOUS attempt to "help" Naruto, not real. As I see it, she was trying to get him to stop chasing after Sasuke, which always ends in physical and emotional pain, and just be happy. Sure, it was a pretty bitchy, underhanded move, but if she didn't care about Naruto, why would she have tried to help him like that anyway? It would have been a pretty life-altering move; she's putting her entire relationship with him at stake.

Obviously, Sakura (and everyone else) is pretty damn screwed up because of Sasuke. But just because she's still protective of him doesn't mean she feels for him the same way she used to--she's in denial, still clinging just a little to the old Sasuke, but denial can't stop new relationships from forming, now, can it?

#407 Nov 02nd, 3:41pm
fisah

i most definitely agree with you that she did this with noble intentions, i'm simply stating that IF people are taking this confession as a sign for real feelings, then the reasons she gave were shallow. but we're on the same page with that. and yes she cares about naruto and that with sai's guiltrip she's decided that the promise of a lifetime wasn't worth it.

that being said, there's been no indication that she hasn't stopped loving sasuke. it hasn't been mentioned in the story at all internally by her or externally--that's why naruto had those flashbacks and that's why everybody was facepalming at her confession. i wouldn't mind her getting with naruto, but if everybody has dubious expressions while she's making that confession then i just don't see how she can have romantic feelings for him? i used to think maybe that's where it was going, but if that were the case...then i don't see why she had to a) lie, b) have naruto call BS and c) have kiba, lee, yamato and everybody else there have 0__0 faces when she was saying she loved him.

#408 Nov 02nd, 5:02pm
Bigg Redd

i most definitely agree with you that she did this with noble intentions, i'm simply stating that IF people are taking this confession as a sign for real feelings, then the reasons she gave were shallow. but we're on the same page with that. and yes she cares about naruto and that with sai's guiltrip she's decided that the promise of a lifetime wasn't worth it.

Sakura's feelings for Naruto are real, the problem is does she love Naruto honestly or does love Naruto because Sasuke left? Her reasons sound shallow because she herself is still unsure how she feels, but we seen in previous arcs that she does have feelings for Naruto. Her main goal was to use her feeling & Naruto's feeings to stop him from going after Sasuke anymore because she didn't want to tell him that his conrades thinks they need to kill Sasuke.

that being said, there's been no indication that she hasn't stopped loving sasuke. it hasn't been mentioned in the story at all internally by her or externally

Sakura does still have feelings for Sasuke, she just now have feelings for Naruto. They'll be a time in the future of the manga where Sakura's real feelings come out, and she realize who she actually loves. Right now, Sakura loves Naruto, but in my opinion she merely loves Naruto now because Naruto was there & Sasuke wasn't.

if everybody has dubious expressions while she's making that confession then i just don't see how she can have romantic feelings for him?

Everyone started to have dubious expression when she started to lied about not caring about Sasuke, they all realised that she was trying to manipulate Naruto, and Naruto, Yamato, & Kakashi realized that she wasn't telling them everything.

then i don't see why she had to a) lie, b) have naruto call BS and c) have kiba, lee, yamato and everybody else there have 0__0 faces when she was saying she loved him.

A)She lied to prevent Naruto from finding out the truth bout the group's decision to kill Sasuke, that's why she told everyone else to not talk.

B)Naruto knows she's lying about not caring about Sasuke anymore, and that she was hiding something.

C)Yamato & Sai already knew Sakura's feelings for Naruto so it's not news to them, Kakashi didn't even look surprise by it, he probably already knew, I guess to be blunt, that was just not expected in this situation.

#409 Nov 02nd, 5:50pm
iiTakashi-kun

I really think Sakura only likes Naruto because everyone else likes him FOR GOD'S SAKE SHE KICKED HIS @$$ INTO THE GROUND -_-

#410 Nov 03rd, 4:44pm
iiTakashi-kun

And sure shes changed but not that much shes still a ** to Naruto sometimes

#411 Nov 03rd, 4:45pm
fisah

@Big Redd

I disagree that Sakura's feelings are real (romantically) because it is simply not translating...her confession was like a rationalisation and she keeps using the terms "suddenly, just now, etc." when she's referring to her feelings for naruto and she keeps lambasting sasuke--she was stating all the reasons WHY she should love naruto.

also maybe you should read the new spoilers because it kind shows some more light on why i think sakura doesn't love naruto, but i don't want to spoil it for you.

anyway there's been so many lies between both sakura & naruto that it's making my head tizzy.

#412 Nov 04th, 7:38am
Integrated Data Thought Entity

Actually, I think the "confession" was the most intelligent think she's ever done. 8]

#413 Nov 04th, 8:03am
Dreary Somebody

That's how I feel. Everyone's panning her for it, but at least she's taking matters into her own hands, yeah? That's the whole reason I started hating her again when she was just letting those Cloud dicks pummel Naruto a few chapters back, so she's getting better...

@fisah: NO ONE is claiming the confession was real; that's completely idiotic. It was a somewhat-cunning plan to get Naruto to stop chasing after Sasuke, as was made pretty damn obvious by the "so you can just forget about the promise you made to me" bit. But as I said before, if Sakura's willing to do something as drastic as a fake confession of love to help Naruto, doesn't that mean she really does care?

EDIT: I just explained all that to you, and no one has since said the confession was real, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Arguing with no one?

#414 Nov 04th, 4:09pm . Edited Nov 04th, 4:11pm
darkestdepths90

Whether or not she cares about him is a mute issue, we've seen that she does, granted it is in her own way. The point is, the other's know she lying, (in fact KIba, Lee, and Yamato looked down right ** just before she started listing off her reason for liking him) and that Naruto knows she's still cares for Sasuke. She may or may not care for Naruto more than him now, but I believe that during the time away with Jiraiya he resigned himself to them only being friends, and while he may still have feelings for her, he's pushed them back so he can be happy for her once he brought Sasuke back.

In truth I believe that one of three things will happen by the end of the series: 1.) all his friends will find someone and he'll be alone but Hokage and thus happy, kind of. 2.) He'll die protecting someone in the final confrontation with Madara. 3.) he and Hinata will get together. The final option is the most likely of the three.

#415 Nov 05th, 4:43am
Integrated Data Thought Entity

...Except it's not likely at all.

He's hardly even THOUGHT about her when she's not right in front of him and fainting. They've not even talked, but Naruto is very obvious about how much he cares about Sakura.

#416 Nov 05th, 10:51am
Bigg Redd

I disagree that Sakura's feelings are real (romantically) because it is simply not translating...her confession was like a rationalisation and she keeps using the terms "suddenly, just now, etc." when she's referring to her feelings for naruto and she keeps lambasting sasuke--she was stating all the reasons WHY she should love naruto.

also maybe you should read the new spoilers because it kind shows some more light on why i think sakura doesn't love naruto, but i don't want to spoil it for you.

anyway there's been so many lies between both sakura & naruto that it's making my head tizzy.

People keep using the words "real" & "fake", which aren't the right terms, the term is honest. Sakura wasn't fully honest in her confession because it wasn't truly from the heart, but she thought it was the only way she can stop Naruto from going after Sasuke, she doesn't want Naruto to put himself in danger looking for Sasuke since he is the Kyubi's host, she said that herself, and the fact is she was willing to give herself to him so he would stop chasing Sasuke, you don't give yourself to someone if you don't have romantic feelings for that person. Add on, she's willing to go after Sasuke herself(whether she plans to kill him or not)so Naruto doesn't have to. And the only lie between Naruto & Sakura is that Sakura saying she doesn't care about Sasuke anymore, and Sakura is lying to herself, and Naruto knows that.

#417 Nov 05th, 11:40am
past-the-pacific

I agree. Obviously, she still cares about Sasuke, but she's willing to change her whole relationship with the guy who is not only basically her best friend but her teammate. Nobody would do that unless they had at least some romantic feelings for that person.

I still think NaruSaku will happen because in most stories where romance is not the genre, "the good guy gets the girl". Sorry, but that's what I think. Personally, I don't get how anybody can like SasuSaku. They have no chemistry. Heck, SasuNaru has more chemistry than them! Also, have they even spoken since Shippunden started? Sasuke pretty much just ignored her that one time they met.

Although I wish Sakura would leave Sasuke alone. He obviously doesn't care about her. Grr Sakura is making me mad. I hope she's looking for Sasuke to beg him to come back FOR NARUTO NOT HERSELF. Then, I would like her again :)

#418 Nov 05th, 3:09pm
fisah

@Dreary Somebody & Bigg Redd

so wait, sakura going to lengths of lying about romantic feelings means she has romantic feelings? that seems like a paradox to me--romantic feelings shouldn't be rationalised the way it was by sakura. romantic feelings can be seen by the other party. this confession was spurned by guilt and a desire to do something. we already know she's lying about sasuke--that is established. also the other lie i was talking about was naruto keeping the madara information from her...yes it's technically not his fault but it's so frustrating knowing how out of the loop sakura is. i think the reason she's going after sasuke is to find that information herself and finally get off her a** and do something/help naruto. everybody is either leaving her behind or simply not telling her information.

clearly we all have different interpretations of what is going on, and i do agree that sakura cares about naruto...romantically though? i'm still unsure because i think that would have translated to naruto period. hell that should've translated to us readers. i'm simply not seeing anything romantic in that confession. and i mean she's saying she's sorry on top of that. clearly we may have different ideas about what that is about but for me i think it's due to her lying to naruto about her feelings. her plan failed horribly.

EDIT: also my love for narusasu is being reinstilled. lol.

EDIT THE SECOND: another reason why i think her confession was BS was because she would have been hurt with naruto claiming she was lying. yes i get that sakura is "tsundere" (i don't really believe that) but you'd expect her to be upset that naruto said her feelings were a lie in a more serious matter than her being all ** off and then apologizing internally. just does not compute. her reaction does not fit a girl in love and/or a tsundere.

#419 Nov 05th, 9:49pm . Edited Nov 05th, 10:34pm
sweetswety

i agree hinata and naruto don't match but sasuke and naruto do.

am in love with the pairing

#420 Nov 06th, 12:53am
Rebekah-San.

Ugh I don't think Naruto and Sakura suit and Sakura and Sasuke totally do not suit at all , I just personally can't see Sakura ending up with anyone from Naruto where as I see Hinata with a lot of characters from Naruto but that may just because I really love Hinata and think she suits everyone but thats just my opinion.

#421 Nov 06th, 3:21pm
Rebekah-San.

Ugh I don't think Naruto and Sakura suit and Sakura and Sasuke totally do not suit at all , I just personally can't see Sakura ending up with anyone from Naruto where as I see Hinata with a lot of characters from Naruto but that may just because I really love Hinata and think she suits everyone but thats just my opinion.

#422 Nov 06th, 3:23pm
Rokuko Kaminari Blaze

I love SasuNaru too! But I also love NaruHina. When you have NaruSaku my only thought is incest. They're kinda like siblings in my mind and I hated Sakura before the shippuden. During the shippuden, I gained respect for her and then it crashed, burned, and had the ashes thrown into the sea where fishes feasted on it. Why, you could ask, because Kishimoto had Sakura collapse in tears at the mear mention of Sasukes's name. It was so sad she was finally kicking some ** too. But anyway Naruto, in my mind, has an sister complex thats why he tries so hard to please her.

#423 Nov 06th, 6:34pm
Integrated Data Thought Entity

I'm not going to argue against that post on the grounds it's so ridiculous I don't know where to start.

#424 Nov 07th, 8:19am
sasusaku14

.REBEKAH-SAN, I think you're wrong ..sakura is the right girl for naruto,.I like them as a couple and I think they will,...and to you guys just read the next chapter of this series so you can decide if sakura is a fake!! but in my own opinion she's not,..she just want to save naruto and i believe although that confession is not so heart touching,.,..sakura still feels something special for naruto,....im pretty sure about that,......and when i read the last chapter,.....sakura asked for kiba's help to find sasuke and i believe she'll do that to fight sasuke and to save naruto...

#425 Nov 09th, 4:46am
Rebekah-San.

Yeah well your entitled to your own opinion but my opinion is that they don't suit and nothing is going to change my opinion and i really do mean nothing. i just don't think they suit , And Sakura is obviously obsessed with Sasuke and I think she always will be.

#426 Nov 09th, 5:54am
Bigg Redd

And Sakura is obviously obsessed with Sasuke and I think she always will be.

Sakura isn't obsessed with Sasuke anymore, it is fair to say that she still have feelings for him, but all we know is that she still care for him & doesn't want to give him up yet. However, she is still willing to give him up so that Naruto doesn't have to go after him anymore since now he is apart of Akatsuki & they are trying to capture Naruto, she even willing to go after Sasuke & attempt to kill him herself I assumed so Naruto doesn't go after him. She obviously have feelings for Naruto as well so she can't be obsessed with Sasuke.

#427 Nov 09th, 10:14am
Rebekah-San.

Okay then whatever shes not obsessed with sasuke anymore but yeah she does still have feelings for him , I just don't find it fair thats she stringing naruto along its like she should just make her mind up and put Naruto out of his misery instead of liking them both. I really think Naruto should just be with Hinata I think shes so much better for him and she has liked him all along unlike Sakura , I mean really Sakura can't just hog both Sasuke and Naruto she can't have both so she should just decide already who she wants to be with jeez.

#428 Nov 09th, 11:17am
fisah

Okay then whatever shes not obsessed with sasuke anymore but yeah she does still have feelings for him , I just don't find it fair thats she stringing naruto along its like she should just make her mind up and put Naruto out of his misery instead of liking them both. I really think Naruto should just be with Hinata I think shes so much better for him and she has liked him all along unlike Sakura , I mean really Sakura can't just hog both Sasuke and Naruto she can't have both so she should just decide already who she wants to be with jeez.

it's not sakura's fault that naruto has feelings for her and that she's in love with sasuke. it's also not her fault for caring about naruto and feeling guilty. she hasn't been hogging them at all--idk i feel the "desert" argument in regards to hinata's feelings toward naruto is BS. love isn't about how much a character deserves another. it's point blank about feeelings you can't control. and up until hinata's confession, hinata hasn't been around naruto all that much. how the hell is naruto supposed to get with a girl he barely interacts with, especially in comparison to sakura?

i also don't think this is about "choosing" between sasuke and naruto. she can care about both of them, romantic feelings notwithstanding.

#429 Nov 09th, 2:45pm . Edited Nov 09th, 2:46pm
Lythya

I was all over the place reading your comment. I know it was written a looong time ago, but it's exactly the way I feel, so I just had to say that I agree.

I feel like Naruto's date requests are exactly like you just described. I need not say more. One can just look at your comment xD (1/8)

As to the whole discussion, which I have now read several pages of, I can see the logic from both sides. I'm still rooting for Naruhina. I think Naruhina has the potential of being very original ... Oh, I just hope it so much, but all the hints towards Narusaku are so in my face :( Like how much she fights to keep the information of Sasuke's annihilation because she knows it'll hurt him badly, and the face when she said she was sorry ... But the sorry face is also "I'm sorry I lied to you"-like. I'm not sure what to think. Part of me is saying that Narusaku won't be canon, while the other part is saying CANON CANON CANON!

I've been warming up to Narusaku because I was really sure it would become canon, and then the two latest chapters happpens.

What to believe?! .

#430 Nov 11th, 11:42am . Edited Nov 11th, 12:52pm
sasusaku14

...I don't understand why there are some people who loves naruhina,..they hoping that naruto will ended up with hinata. which is impossible now because it's pretty obvious that it will be sakura and naruto in the end. And of course sakura isn't obssesed with sasuke in fact she will fight him to save naruto...and she'll do that because she love naruto!,.I can't wait till i read the next chapter..

#431 Nov 11th, 7:21pm
Dreary Somebody

which is impossible now because it's pretty obvious that it will be sakura and naruto in the end.

I suppose you have *no* valid reasons to back this up, yeah? Yeah. Thought so.

#432 Nov 11th, 7:41pm
Lythya

I can see why you say that ... I feel that this is her intention, too. But Sakura loves Sasuke, and when she sees him, I'm pretty sure that she will act in a way similar to when they first met in Part II or somewhat when he left the village.

Am I the only one disappointed in Kiba? Shouldn't he be totally on Hinata's side in all this?

#433 Nov 12th, 1:20am
Lythya

Btw, and I know this is late, I just found this debate, about that character chart further back.

The reason why there is first no heart between Naruto and Hinata could simply be because you don't know that she has one on him at the point that it was made.

The reason why she isn't even in there in the second one, when Temari, Gaara and Kankuro are there, might be because this was also made in the beginning of Part II where Hinata has not even made her entrance yet.

#434 Nov 12th, 1:26am
iiTakashi-kun

U know what bite me for all i care everyone has there opinions i have mine u have yours everyone happy but that is ending the fun unfortunetly T^T

#435 Nov 13th, 10:52am
Integrated Data Thought Entity

lol

#436 Nov 13th, 1:10pm
sasusaku14

huh?...really?....well i guess you're wrong I HAVE PLENTY

ahem,..ahem..ahem...

1. in an interview with masashi kishimoto he admitted that in the end THERE WOULD BE COUPLES and i'm pretty sure that sakura and naruto is included.

2. there are lots of HINTS that sakura is IN LOVE with naruto. yeah i'm so sure about this she loves him.

3. and naruto loves sakura IN THE WHOLE SERIES

NARUTO LOVES SAKURA+SAKURA LOVES NARUTO=NARUSAKU couple

...actually if i enumerate it all one page is not enough

#437 Nov 22nd, 5:10am
Lythya

On the other side, why would there be hints towards others if they're not going to play a role? And the newest chapter sort of hints that Naruto has grown away from his romantic love to her.

#438 Nov 22nd, 6:00am
Maria Imbrium

So Sai is lying. ):

#439 Nov 22nd, 6:33am
Dreary Somebody

"There will be pairings" =/= "There will be NaruSaku."

Exactly what hints?

And even if Naruto and Sakura love each other, they might not necessarily get together.

#440 Nov 22nd, 8:11am
Bigg Redd

On the other side, why would there be hints towards others if they're not going to play a role?

To keep a secret of which couple is gonna happen, Kishimoto is merely milking the situation. Truthfully though, NaruSaku has the edge because the feeling is mutual while NaruHina & SasuSaku(if it still even exist) are only 1-sided. The question to the whole shipping war is does Sakura truly has feelings for Naruto or did she feel that way since Sasuke isn't there, when she figures out how she feels, that will be the end of the shipping wars.

And the newest chapter sort of hints that Naruto has grown away from his romantic love to her

The exact opposite has happen, we already found out from the Sai's flashback that Naruto indeed loves Sakura. Besides that, Naruto didn't reject Sakura, Naruto also didn't turn Sakura down gently, he accused her of lying because he remembers how Sakura feels/felt about Sasuke, he wants Sakura to be happy, & he believes she can only be happy with Sasuke.

#441 Nov 22nd, 10:02am
Maria Imbrium

Hinata can't even talk to Naruto. ):

#442 Nov 22nd, 11:12am
Bigg Redd

NaruHina & SasuSaku can still happen, I just don't like their chances. In order for NaruHina to happen, Hinata needs a bigger role in the manga and Sakura needs to be out of the picture, which is a slim chance of that happening. In order for SasuSaku to happen, Sasuke needs to return Sakura's feelings and Sakura still has to want to be with him, which right now she is willing to give up on Sasuke for Naruto's sake, so that is a slim chance of happening. Add to the fact that NaruHina & SasuSaku(if it even is) are still 1-sided & NaruSaku being mutual now is also making it even more slim for NaruHina & SasuSaku.

#443 Nov 22nd, 11:47am
Maria Imbrium

I just don't like those pairings. ):

#444 Nov 22nd, 12:47pm
Rokuko Kaminari Blaze

And Sakura can have a conversation with Naruto without beating him half to death, crying pathetically, or hurting his feelings?

#445 Nov 22nd, 3:34pm
Mare Hiemis

Yes.

#446 Nov 23rd, 1:43pm
SASUKE'S PENIS IS ANGRY.

That sounds about right to me.

#447 Nov 23rd, 1:45pm
Mare Hiemis

Haha.

#448 Nov 23rd, 2:00pm
sasusaku14

yeah i agreed with bigg redd( by the way nice name huh,).

I love sasusaku and it's my fave couple since i was in grade school but narusaku is more evident, ...well i like narusaku,.....

I'm still guessing what will happen next in manga .....I'm still thinking what will happen when sakura found sasuke (yeah thanks to kiba)

ooHHH too bad naruto will end in CHAPTER 500

PLSSSSS masashi if you reading this add more chapters dont end it with 500 it is not enough!!!

if that is the case create new story about naruto maybe you can continue it with naruto SHIMPU GAKUEN DEN,..where in they live in modern japan

I LOVE THEIR UNIFORM!!!!

#449 Nov 24th, 2:27am
Bigg Redd

yeah i agreed with bigg redd( by the way nice name huh,).

Thank You.

ooHHH too bad naruto will end in CHAPTER 500

PLSSSSS masashi if you reading this add more chapters dont end it with 500 it is not enough!!!

It can't end at 500, that will only leave 28 chapters left & they are still too many things left unresolved.

1. Kabuto is still out there

2. Danzo and Roots

3. The 4th Ninja War

4. Kisame is still fighting Killerbee

5. Madara's Moon Eye plan

6. The end of the shipping wars

Probably more I can't think of...

#450 Nov 24th, 2:38am


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