No. Just ... no.

Ino's far too much of a snob to ever date Chouji.

And Chouji's far too good-hearted to end up with someone like Ino.

Unlike Ino, Chouji is a loyal friend, and doesn't ditch his friends just because they're "love rivals".

Ino goes anorexic for Saucegay, and some fans are still kidding themselves by saying Chouji would bother with her?

Let's hear your thoughts on this "couple" ... as if it's even a possibility.

~Akasuna-no-Sayuri

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Note: If there are any ChoujixIno fans out there, I'm very sorry. I didn't create this to offend people. I created it to generate discussion ... and to share my own personal hate for the impossible couple. Mwahaha.

Unlike Ino, Chouji is a loyal friend, and doesn't ditch his friends just because they're "love rivals".

Neither does Ino, because as I recall, Ino was the one that was ditched...o_O

Ino's a good friend and although she teases them, it's obvious that she really cares for her teammates. The first person Ino went to after the failed Sasuke retrieval mission was Chouji. Even though she didn't know Sasuke wasn't back, she still went to her teammate first and not her 'love interest'.

Now saying that, you might think I like ChoIno, but actually I really really don't like it. Mostly because I think Chouji and Ino make better friends than they would make lovers. We don't need to ruin their friendship with romance. In addition, friend or no friend, Ino would probably never date someone fat. Yes it's mean (sorry Chouji!), but I get where she's coming from. Some people are just like that. It's her preference and it doesn't necessarily make her a bad person.

Hehe, that's what I meant. Ino is the one who ditches Sakura just because of Sasuke. I understand why, but it's a little shallow ...

Haha, I have nothing against Chouji and Ino as characters. Although Ino can get on my nerves, even she has her moments of friendliness. (: It's just that I don't envision them as ever going out. Ino is too crazy about looks to date Chouji, and I doubt Chouji would see anything in the blonde-nin. ^_^;;

well. they're both good hearted people, but Ino would actually have to EAT something if she were to EVER go out with Choji.

and Ino is the ditchee. not the ditcher.

She'd never be able to keep her diet up ... hehe. Which is probably a good thing ... just not for her, seeing as she wants to be thin for Sasuke. XD

I guess Sakura did have a big part in the ditching. But Sakura-hate's a whole new topic ... *rambles* xD

I didn't even take this pairing a second thought until now.

I believe it wouldn't work out well.

Every couple has a potential to work if they really try, but I guess you need that spark... LOL I'm making no sense here. There will be some that are easier to be with than others, of course.

Actually, I don't like this pairing either but I definitely see it as a possibility. At the core Ino is a very sweet and caring person like Chouji (flashing back to her childhood with Sakura) even if she cares too much about physical appearance. But I speak from personal experience when I say that the more you get to know a person and the longer you know a person, the less you see their body and the more you see them. Also Ino has her head in the clouds in terms of Sasuke, but if there's a hope of her coming down to earth and forgetting about fictional romantic perfection then there's a real hope for this pairing.

Wow, good insight!

When you put it that way, it could work. Just as long as the effort is there.

Ino matures a little in Shippuden so it's a possibility. When Sasuke dies, ChoxIno is definitely a possibility. XD

Until then ... meh. I don't know. Ino was good-hearted as a child but she still seems rather vain.

When Sasuke dies, ChoxIno is definitelya possibility. XD

Hmm, I don't think so. Sasuke's current situation is putting a lot of emotional stress on Ino and obviously causing her a lot of pain. In the event that Sasuke does die, I don't see Ino recovering very easily and while Chouji might be there as a comforting friend, I don't think the relationship will go any further...

That could just be my anti-ChoIno bias talking....

I don't like ChouIno, but this seems stupid! You just don't like the pairing because you don't like Ino!

Ino isn't a snob. She wasn't the one who ditched Sakura. As I remember, it was Sakura who ended the friendship and created their rivalry! And she actually really cares for her team mates, eg. going to see Chouji in hospital and worrying about him beforehand, and although Sakura is the one to end their friendship Ino is the one to offer her hand out first and say 'you bloomed into a beautiful flower.'

So stop saying Ino is snobby and mean and doesn't care about her team mates!

Edit: And pfft. Everyone's vain. You're not honestly telling me you don't care about the way you look?

ChouIno seems cute, but I can totally see why people don't like it.

I agree! Ino is not a snob. I totally respect her. Ino is capable of showing her kind side, she can be a sweet girl xD

_ Shika/Ino is a nice pairing I think...

I am vain too if you mean I care about my looks.

But I remember one episode where Ino told Chouji he should diet. She said it in a nice way, but in a way that said he wouldn't be very popular with the girls unless he did so.

So although she can be sweet (to Chouji especially), I just don't see a relationship developing because not only is she vain in the sense that she cares about her own looks, she cares about the looks of others. This doesn't mean she dislikes Chouji, it just means that it would be difficult for them to have a relationship.

I agree. People always make that seem like a bad thing and trash Ino for it, but honestly, isn't everyone allowed to have their own preference?

I love Chouji, he's a sweetheart, but I would never see him for dating. Maybe it's just me, but I don't actively seek out unattractive people just so I can prove I'm not superficial. If a person isn't aesthetically attractive then I don't think I would take the time to approach them.

Regardless of how you take it, physical appearance is a big deciding factor in a relationship. I think personality, voice and looks are the three categories of a person, and you can't just abandon one because you don't want to seem like you're judging them unfairly.

Chouji is a little too sensitive to deal with Ino's high standards, so I don't think he'd be able to keep up. Plus his looks is mostly for his family jutsu than chosen body weight, as I recall.

Pretty harsh, there. Obviously I wouldn't actively seek unattractive people out, but that's not really the way most relationships work (far as I can gather, at least). I mean, you probably wouldn't decline a casual conversation with an "ugly" person, and if you became friends with them, well, the better and longer you've known someone, the more normal they look to you.

As for the pairing, ChoIno is... not good. I've never liked Ino. She's kind of... pre-timeskip-Sakura-ish, what with her obsessing over anyone who vaguely resembles Sasuke and all. If there's a Chouji pairing I support, it's ShikaCho--so cuuuute. 3

Of course I wouldn't, but I wouldn't particularly consider them for a romantic relationship. I'm fine with having friends that aren't 100% gorgeous, since it doesn't really matter if they are or not there. I'm only going to have a laugh with them.

I'm saying that if they weren't average-looking at least, I wouldn't go out of my way to say hi. Then again, I'm not the most concerned person when it comes to social lives. I don't talk to many people in the first place and I don't actively seek romantic relationships either.

And yes, ShikaChou is adorable. I think that and SaiNaru are the only things I'm actually still shipping right now.

Gorgeous is in the eye of the beholder, and it blinds. Love happens regardless of looks, romantic or nonromantic, and any relationship that uses beauty as a foundation will crumble when put to the test. It doesn't mean that Ino would necessarily love Chouji as more than a friend and teammate, but for him to be a more universally handsome person wouldn't make the pairing any more successful. ...I just used three 'more's in the same sentence. =/ Blah.

When you don't know a person it's easy to judge them by how they look, even if you tell yourself not to. Ultimately though... looks are only skin deep.

It's easy to say that, but you can't just ignore someone's looks altogether. It just doesn't happen. Regardless of whether you believe judge by their looks or not, you will subconciously rate them. Before you know the person, physical appearance is all you have to go on.

There's no use in getting worked up over being offensive when it's true.

What I'm saying is love is non-judgmental and ultimately love and beauty, though hand in hand, wage a war with each other inside of a person. Say if you knew someone for a long time and you both believed you were in love with each other, then that person got into an accident and wound up in the hospital. Would your first thought be "Oh dear Lord, are they okay?" or would you also think "Is their face still intact so I can look at it?" Maybe I'm getting romantic here, but I believe that true love is unconditional and doesn't depend in the least on the latter. Basically... yes, it's true that fickle things like youth and beauty are treated as valuable assets to a relationship, but they don't have to be and accepting such biases doesn't help.

I don't believe in stupid things such as ~*true love*~. ):

Haha.

You can use as many fanciful and dolled up words/excuses as you want, but the fact remains that people aren't like that in real life. In actuality, every single person judges one another from their first impressions. If you see a dirty, ugly guy who looks like a homeless person on the streets, you are not going to think to yourself "Oh wow, I should get to know that person so I don't assume false things about them! Maybe they can be my future boyfriend!" You will more than likely avoid said person, so they don't beg you for money, or do other stereotypically hobo things. By now, it's human nature to judge others on their appearance. What makes the difference is if you start and continue to hate them solely on their looks, even if you do get to know them. :')

No one cares what happens when you get to know them and like them though, as that's not what the initial situation was.

Sorry if that sounded too fantastic. Reality is dirt, and and human nature is crap. It would be hypocritical of me to automatically consider getting to know a hobo just because I or others normally wouldn't, and that's not remotely what I'm trying to say. What I would do is think of helping them should they ask and generally treat them like a normal human being in a bad situation, which doesn't mean talking them up and giving them my phone number. I'm not saying you should throw caution to the wind and give someone you don't know the benefit of the doubt while they're appearance is making you suspect otherwise either, but even if you're cautious or iffy about a person you can still treat them normally, which also doesn't mean talking them up and exchanging numbers. It's funny how people use human nature is an excuse for inhumanity.

Battleship Fubuki, if that's what you think then you'll never find it. Sorry if that sounds too fanciful and unrealistic for you. Thinking about it though, if you're right true love is a stupid fantasy. If I'm right it's a very bitter-sweet kind of reality.

I am right. If you get too hung up over ridiculous things such as ~*true love*~ you'll never have a suitable partner, as you'll keep holding out for that "one" who's never going to come.

It's got nothing to do with holding out for "true love." (After all, what we think of as "true love" isn't instant and at-first-sight, it's the product of a lengthy relationship, of years and years and years of compromises and working together--"true love" is really just the companionship that, if all goes well, is left behind when the initial passion burns down.) Reality-wise, you'll never get ANY sort of love or friendship if you don't experience other people, and in that area, it's just as ridiculous to get hung up over things like outer beauty. It's fine and dandy to judge people--that's just human nature--but it's also within the scope of human ability to rationalize away first impressions. Not that one should offer themselves to any and every person they meet, but when opportunity presents itself, it would be senseless to turn it down because of the superficial.

True love is fearless, selfless love. It's not exclusive to lovers. Although I agree it takes time to develop, I believe it's something that reaches out to encompass all people once it's there inside of you, not just one person.

You know who has "fearless, selfless love" that "reaches out to encompass all people once it's there inside you"? Babies with no life experience at all, towards their mothers.

It's impossible for any thinking person to love in that way. Simply impossible, no matter what sort of romantic fancies you might subscribe to. You can no more have a truly fearless, selfless, all-encompassing love than you can reach absolute zero.

If that is what you expect, prepare for disappointment.

Aw, now that's no fun. =D

Babies are just the opposite of fearless and selfless. All they do is cry, eat, go to the bathroom, giggle, and depend. That's why people have to grow up to realize they aren't the center of the universe.

Love defeats fear, and fear is the heart of selfishness. An example of this: You are standing outside of a flaming building and your kids are trapped inside. Do you go in, even though the chances are slim and you're afraid for your own life? The answer is if you love your kids enough to forget yourself, you will fight your way into that building if it's the last thing you do and keep your eye on that small window of hope. Fear makes you consider reality and think it's hopeless, or tell yourself that the chances are against you and there's no sense in all of you dying. There are people in the world who love someone enough to go into that building, flames be damned, and not regret. If you can love one person that much, you can love everyone.

What I spoke of about true love is what I believe to be the ultimate love. Like your heart can't get any bigger kind of love. It sounds far-fetched, but it's in the range of human possibility if you ask me.

No one said that they'll automatically hate anyone ugly for the rest of their lives.

You really are setting yourself up for disaster. You can live in your fantasies and insult the real world as much as you want, but it's not going to change anything. In all honesty, you're talking about these storybook romances with need of a serious reality check. No one loves everyone. No one will live happily ever after with no heartbreak in their entire life. Call me a realist, but all you're saying is just fanciful ** that makes absolutely no sense.

I hate people who are so selfless that it's selfish. People with no self-worth are disgusting, and a lot of the time very self-righteous. Nothing positive ever comes out of it. Unless, of course, you think endangering yourself and entirely disregarding everyone who cares about you by doing things that will make them worry about you and become upset if you do something utterly self-sacrificing, is a good thing. It's more or less screaming to the world, "I don't care that you care about me".

In other news, I broke my toe. :'＞

@Pyre

... Either that wasn't a response to me, or you drastically misinterpreted what I said. o Ao Ohwells~

ANYWAY. Broken toes/bones in general are **. D;

@Apple Of The Sand

Of course I would save my children from a burning building. Evolution says that the next generation is more important than the last. My maternal programming wouldn't allow me inaction. Anyone else? I wouldn't be able to do it, because I would be afraid--fear isn't the heart of selfishness, fear is your body trying to keep you alive. That's not love, that's just survival instincts, and the fact that I would love my children most certainly does not mean I love everyone.

Again: Just like absolute zero. Theoretically, is is possible? Yep. Will it ever happen? Absolutely not.

Edit: OTL @ typos. = w=

No, no. It wasn't to you. Your posts seem pretty reasonable, so I didn't have anything to say about them. :')

Yeaaah. Limping everywhere isn't very fun, I'm realizing. Haha~

[i'm still partially excited that this is the first time i've ever broken one of my body parts, lmao. last time i got somewhat badly injured was years ago when i smashed my thumb in a sliding door. i'm clumsy, but pretty damn lucky! ♥]

Sasuke's ** Is Angry - I never said anything about hating ugly people, and I don't know where you got that. I never said no heartbreak either. True love can be in the heart of the giver and not the receiver, but that's human nature. I trash human nature because it basically amounts to laziness: "I don't have to change, that's just the way I am."

Also, if it's so selfless that it's selfish it isn't selfless at all, is it? I hate that too, and I say the same thing about people who focus on all their own faults. As for self-sacrifice, that's a different matter. Honestly, if someone gets mad at someone they love for self-sacrificing because it makes them sad, that's like saying, "Why am I not more important to you than that shmo?!" which is selfish. A person should think twice before throwing their life away for someone else, yes, but that shouldn't necessarily stop them from doing it. I mean, if someone you love is off killing innocent people and someone is about to stop them, you really shouldn't stand in the way... but resisting the urge in that case is a matter of self-sacrifice too. That's saying, "It's not about what I want". Selflessness is forgetting yourself in order to look out for the greater good.

Anyway, I hope your toe gets better! I've only fractured my arm before, but it was my non-writing one, and with a cast I couldn't feel a thing. I imagine toes are more sensitive, since you have to walk on them. DX

Dreary Somebody - I can't accept 'maternal programming' as a substitute for love because some mothers and fathers would not risk their lives for their children, and survival of the fittest hasn't taken them out of the gene pool. I was just using kids as an example, tho. And there are things other than fear to keep you from doing something stupid. People can think more rationally without fear clouding their judgment.

I didn't mean to say that loving your children means loving everyone; I was saying that the ability to love anyone means you can love everyone. If it can happen theoretically, how can you be so absolutely sure it won't?

@Pyre

Just checking. x) I haven't broken anything yet--although I almost stabbed my eye out once when I fell on a pen. :D

@Apple

No, you can't accept maternal programming as a substitute for love because you're attached to your preconceived notions of it.

... Maybe you should google the definition of "theoretical" and get back to me.

Oops... I'm a ditz. XP Sorry, I have a bad habit of using words in a sentence because they sound right sometimes. I know what theoretical means... I'll edit that.

Maternal programming... I gave my argument there, and your assumption doesn't sufficiently contradict it. Could you be more specific with what you mean by "preconceived notions"?

Sorry, I haven't really read all of the other comments here. But I just think that if, at the end of the series, Ino ends up with Choji it would be both surprising and unsurprising! Unsurprising because their pairing has been perceived by fans, surprising because it would seem...Well, different. I think that Kishimoto-san may just pair the two up to show a kinder side to Ino. I mean, it's just sooooo unlikely - its likely! Plus, who else would Ino end up with? Shikamaru? Shikamaru and Temari are CONSTANTLY being put in scenes together to show their chemistry! I can perceive Shikamaru as seeing Ino as attractive, but in my opinion it would take quite a bit for them to be romantically involved...

Hm, Sasuke? No, don't think so.

Kiba? Er...I dunno. I follow the manga more than the anime. So if someone can provide some possibilites...

Shino? Same as Kiba.

Naruto? Seriously doubt it.

Sai? Hm...It's...Possible, in a way, maybe. Again, so unlikely that its likely. Even though it seemed that Sai thought Ino ugly at the beginning.

Yes, but you're acting as if love is the most important thing needed to survive, and that if you love people only good things will happen to you. That's not how it happens, and it's just going to disappoint you in the future, if you continue to think with such high ideals. Still; dissing the way people are isn't going to get you anywhere.

If someone is having a hard time, and their friend gives up everything to help them, that is going to make that person feel terrible. It would quickly come to light that it was entirely their fault that their friend's life is ruined. Why would anyone want to put someone they care about in that situation? Depress them with the thought that it was because they were in a tough situation that their friend gave up so much? Most forms of selflessness are selfish, unless you only do small, simple things that don't make much of an impact. Most people would give up their lives in exchange for saving someone they love, but that doesn't escape the inevitable guilt that saved person will feel as a consequence. It's not a nice thing to have happen to you, despite how much of a "good" thing it is.

And still, no one loves everyone. It's impossible, unless they're trying too hard.

Anyway, I hope your toe gets better! I've only fractured my arm before, but it was my non-writing one, and with a cast I couldn't feel a thing. I imagine toes are more sensitive, since you have to walk on them. DX

Ahh, thank you! It's okay if I don't walk around a lot, since it's my middle toe so I can put more pressure on other parts of my foot, etc. It's nothing serious, so that much is good. :')

I said that looks were one of three traits that I consider. You're assuming that because I admit that I do have standards when it comes to superficial traits that I base all of my decisions on it.

I can live alone.

Battleship Yamato - Nope. I'm just jumping to an extreme by saying that basing a relationship on anything superficial puts a weak spot in the foundation that could easily bring the whole thing to ruin.

You want to live alone? Why?

Sasuke's ** Is Angry - Loveis the most important thing. C= The idea is that people can change but use 'human nature' as an excuse not to. Laziness can certainly be helped.

If a person gives up everything for one person, they have nothing left for anyone else. That isn't for the greater good. And you're right, there are a lot of people with the 'it's all my fault' mentality when someone wants to help them. In fact, those are mostly the self-beaters who don't think they're worth anyone's time. Quite frankly, no matter what you do you can't fix that for them; though encouragement helps, they have to do that themselves as it's a matter of removing the focus from oneself to the bigger picture. One person can't fix everything, despite any willingness to sacrifice themself, and trying to do so is taking a downward spiral to regret. So yes, being selfless and full of love for others doesn't fill your life with unperturbed happiness. Yet when a person does what they can and accepts what they can't and generally cares for the sake of others, they won't regret a day of that way of living. At that point their happiness is connected to God's happiness.

Well, now that I've dropped the "G" word... waiting for the crash.

Or the dead silence.

If it doesn't look like I'm talking to you, I'm not.

You want to live alone? Why?

I never said I did.

It did... to me. =P

Nice spew of romantic tripe there. And the last bit--was that really necessary?Look, you even knew someone would probably get offended.

The inability to change your hardwiring is not laziness, it's reality. Not only is personality pretty much set after around 30, we as people just can't stop caring when things go wrong. No one can ever have no regrets. You can hope real hard, sure, but you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

Someone always gets offended when religion comes into a conversation. Yeah, it was necessary because it is the basis for all of my arguments on true love up until now, and the reason I don't believe it's impossible to love everyone. I didn't just say that to make somebody mad.

Fear isn't the only thing you feel when something goes wrong. I never said people should stop caring.

I keep seeing people say I'm setting myself up for disappointment, but I have yet to hear anyone say how they know this. Reality is everything that is, and for everything that is there is some kind of proof somewhere. But how can you know what isn't?

You don't need to know what doesn't exist.

Loveis the most important thing. C=

Oh, so it saves you from misfortune, poverty, death, etc? That's interesting. No matter how much you love someone, it's not going to automatically make everything in life perfect.

but I have yet to hear anyone say how they know this.

It's called 'real life'. Nothing is even close to like that in reality, and when one's expectations are not met, they are normally very disappointed. That is how we know this. I cannot think of one person whose life is amazing solely because of love. Instead, it's about hard work and doing things right. Priorities are everything; love should not be the top one. Love will not help you get a job. Love will not make you money. Love does not put your kids through school and have them grow into hard-working, responsible adults. Love does not automatically achieve happiness, and no one can kid themselves that it does. And so on ~

Love isn't anything special.

So you know the boundaries of reality well enough to say that true love doesn't exist? Where's your proof?

If you love your kids you'll do a lot more for them than run into a burning building to save their lives; if you don't love your kids there isn't much to make you work hard to support and nourish them. This comes back to selfless love.

I can't prove a negative. You're the one who brought up true love: guess who the burden of proof falls to?

Yeah, it was necessary because it is the basis for all of my arguments on true love up until now, and the reason I don't believe it's impossible to love everyone.

You cannot base a valid argument on religion. No two people have the same religious ideas. No religious idea can be proven. No one is ready for their religious ideas to be challenged. If your entire argument is religion-based, there's really no point in presenting it to people if/when you have no idea if it will apply to them at all.

You assume I would care enough to have children.

I'm glad you say that. =) I based my arguments on my beliefs, but I didn't try to use them as proof. I just wanted you to know where I'm coming from so you'll realize that I won't give up on true love just because your perception of reality is different from mine.

Honestly, I don't have proof for you, only evidence, so I guess I shouldn't have put it that way. What I want to say is that people keep telling me it doesn't exist as if it's some sort of irrefutable fact when they can't know that, and they haven't given much evidence themselves. After all, you gave your belief that people are hardwired to do everything they do. I don't know if that's based on a religion or lack thereof, but it's the same idea.

If you claim something is true, you must prove it is. If you cannot then it is common knowledge that it is not true.

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