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NinnerNinja
Topic: sasuXnaru..who the hell likes this paring
to me this is the most crackiest paring ever invented...please be with me ppl!
#1 Mar 23rd 2008, 4:01pm
The Scarlet Pencil
Disclaimer: I dislike SasuNaru intensely.

It's not cracky, though. Naruto and Sasuke have a long history with each other. Naruto obviously cares a lot about Sasuke. If he didn't, he wouldn't be genuinely concerned about Sasuke, after all the git has done. And Naruto does mean something to Sasuke, though Sasuke chose revenge and Itachi over Naruto.

I personally don't support the pairing (I think Naruto deserves someone nicer than Sasuke. Like Shikamaru. Or Ino.), but I can definitely see the buttloads of subtext the pairing has going for it. Therefore, it wouldn't really be defined as crack. ^_^

#2 Mar 23rd 2008, 6:53pm
fisah
Yeah, SasuNaru isn't crack :D It has a loooot of subtext, but if people truly believe that it will happen in canon, I'd have to STRONGLY disagree. Especially since they've called each other brother on more than one occasion. And that Naruto likes Sakura. Yeah.

I agree that Naruto needs somebody nicer, haha. Now that I think about it, I don't have an exclusive ONE PERSON thing for Naruto, he could go well with Shikamaru, and INO OMG THAT DOES SOUND GOOD. D: I know this girl who ships them really hard. But not Hinata, lulz. She's toooo nice I think.

#3 Mar 23rd 2008, 7:24pm
Shiruwanasu
Even if I am a yaoi fangirl, I really dislike SasuNaru.
#4 Mar 25th 2008, 2:33am
raspberry soap
I think it's crack. I don't think a romantic relationship was ever implied or hinted at. Isn't that just people's fantasies running away with them?
#5 Mar 26th 2008, 4:35pm
fauxPROJECT

I have to agree with Scarlet Pencil.

It's not necessarily crack, but I'm pretty sure it won't happen. Naruto is a shounen manga, and well yeah. Just the way the culture is, SasukexNaruto have 99.8% of not happening. (Man, now Team Seven OT3! XD That's the way it's gotta go! haha, just playing.)

I don't think romantic relationship was ever implied, but they've got history and a relationship, so it's better off than say, Sakon and Ino. (XD Sakon and Ukon! You dirty girl Ino!) They've never even met.

#6 Mar 26th 2008, 9:27pm
raspberry soap

But isn't it crack unless romantic feelings are implied or hinted at? Like Sakura and Ino. Or Shikamaru/Chouji. Those are crack pairings, right? So...Sasuke and Naruto? Well, maybe I don't fully understand the definition...

#7 Mar 26th 2008, 9:32pm . Edited Mar 26th 2008, 9:33pm
fauxPROJECT

*shrugs*

I just like my crack a little wacky then. *snickers*I think people's levels of what they believe is crack is what determines it. This thread is kind of a dead end thing going. xD

(I don't know about SakuIno/ShikaChou, I hate both pairings, ShikaChou just recently actually XD, unless gen!fic or angst!fic is in play. So, I don't want comment about that, I'm biased XD)

Crack, for my standards, are just relationships that seem absolutely improbable..but possible in a way. XD KankIno, NejiIno (which I like.. o.o.). I don't know, just in my opinion NarutoxSasuke isn't as cracky as others, is how I should put it then XD.

#8 Mar 26th 2008, 9:38pm
raspberry soap

Ok, I see what you mean now.

You like Neji/Ino? That's actually my all-time favorite pairing. That's cool. It's just too bad there aren't too many fics from what I've seen.

Yeah, I guess this thread isn't really going anywhere at the moment.

#9 Mar 26th 2008, 9:46pm
fauxPROJECT

:D Yes I love NejiIno actually. >>; planned on writing a little about it...but I'm a procrastinator when it comes to writting. Yeah..just yeah XD.

I know..sparse fics. I think I've found a couple goods one, I favorited them, I'm sure. But I leave the couple alone for awhile, hoping fics will build up XD.

>>; Yes, this thread seems to be going no where. XD Someone please come up with an intellegent debate prompt Cause I'm lazy and tired >

#10 Mar 26th 2008, 9:51pm
The Scarlet Pencil

But isn't it crack unless romantic feelings are implied or hinted at? Like Sakura and Ino. Or Shikamaru/Chouji. Those are crack pairings, right? So...Sasuke and Naruto? Well, maybe I don't fully understand the definition...

*shrugs* I've always defined crack as pairings in which the characters never interacted in the series, or were really, really unlikely to happen even though they did interact. So, Shino/Ino would be crack since they've never talked (as far as I can remember), and Sasori/Sakura would also be crack, because although they did interact, Sakura kind of kicked his ** and killed him. XP Under that definition, SasuNaru would not be crack, because they have a long history of interacting together. Unlikely as far as canon? Sure. But not crack. ^_^

#11 Mar 26th 2008, 9:59pm . Edited Mar 26th 2008, 10:06pm
raspberry soap

Well, ok. I guess I'm cool as long as it never even remotely happens in the manga or anime.

#12 Mar 26th 2008, 10:02pm
fisah

Yeah, I agree :D I think if SasuNaru would happen in canon, I'd be extremely upset, mostly because it'd be a bit out of character for them I guess. I mean, I like the pairing fanon and everything, but I honestly think their mindset (IE your my brother stuff) would basically be disregarded, which is dumb.

Then again, Kishimoto does like his yaoi (such as the Sai/Sasuke yaoi fantasy, the SasuNaru kiss, SasuKishi being canon)

XD

#13 Mar 26th 2008, 10:33pm
fauxPROJECT

XD

I think Kishimoto is secretly preparing the biggest yaoi triangle..er..15-gon line up XD, het pairings are there just to throw us off!

O-O

SaiKakaNaruSuiJuuKabuOroItaSasuNejiShika

I swear, it'll be cannon by the end. *twitch*

X]

#14 Mar 26th 2008, 10:38pm
The Scarlet Pencil

.... I'D TOTALLY SHIP THAT LIKE WOAH. XDDDDDDDD Can you imagine the extreme LULZ that would be generated by Itachi, Sai, and Suigetsu just being in the same room together? XDDDD Not to mention the others. AHAHA.

#15 Mar 26th 2008, 10:41pm
fauxPROJECT

x].

ItaSaiSui, sounds like a sexy OT3 XD.

Plot, zero.Smut, maximum. Possible fanart included. >>;

I think that's exactly where Shippuden is going. Kishi is dying for a man-sandwhich-fantasy.

#16 Mar 26th 2008, 10:48pm
fisah

HAHA, I'd ship it liek woah too :D OMG, I can totally see Itachi/Sai, especially since they'd both fake each other out! AND SUIGETSU/NARUTO/SASUKE OT3 SOUNDS AWESOME. It'd be the best thing ever; the sexual tension would be so strong that they'd confuse it with bloodlust! HAHAHA.

Oh Kishimoto, clever :D I can see the flame wars now.

#17 Mar 26th 2008, 10:50pm
fauxPROJECT

SUINARUSASU?! *sexxxx*

Oh boy, oh boy. I wonder who'd top, who'd bottom, and who's the bolony.

ItaSuiSai looks pretty too. I mean, Sai/Sasuke fantasy...Sai/Itachi HAS to be next. (Damnit, I mighthavetoshipit! EXOTICPAIRINGS FTW!)

...Suigetsu is just like LAWLZ and there, because he's Suigetsu.

Kishimoto, tsk, using the cover that Naruto is a shounen manga, shame. X3

#18 Mar 26th 2008, 11:02pm
fisah

ITASUISAI does look very, very pretty :D I wonder how it'd work, it'd definitely be interesting. I'd rather see more yaoi fangasm jutsus rather than what's happening now. Although the manga is shaping up a bit (Badass Tobi/Madara anyone?) so maybe not all is lost.

I want Sui to top :D I'm all good with the rest XD (EXOTIC PAIRINGS FTW!)

Haha, I think I should go the naruto forums and drop the logic bomb :D

#19 Mar 26th 2008, 11:47pm
fauxPROJECT

XD Let's skip dynamics and go straight to fan-art! It's all explained on how it happen underneath the underneath..( uh...uhh..smut.

Imagine **!ItaSaiSasuNaru to pimp!Suigetsu XD.

Haha, I don't go to the naruto forums :P I mostly hang around this little cubicle *kicks ff.net*. Thought about it XD but I'm such a procrastinator.

#20 Mar 26th 2008, 11:54pm
Shiruwanasu

I'm with you all.Let's make a man-train fanfic!Woohooo!

#21 Mar 27th 2008, 1:00am
The Scarlet Pencil

Guess what, everybody! XD It's not a threesome, but I have found ItaSai fic! GOOD ItaSai fic, moreover! XP

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2426082/35/Naruto_Ficlets

#22 Mar 30th 2008, 7:47am
fisah

OMG, that was good :D And a bit disturbing, underneath the underneath ItachiSasu too! Aww, you totally found a gem and sadly that's probably the ONLY gem on ffnet that's ItaSai DX

#23 Mar 30th 2008, 9:12am
The Scarlet Pencil

I know! :D I love all of her ficlets; they are excellent! (The ItaSasuNeji with the line, "There will be no more Uchiha babies." was priceless. XD) And the NaruIno one was awesome too. And the... *rant about how awesome the author is here* *Shot*

#24 Mar 30th 2008, 9:29am
Shiruwanasu

Wow.....that was kinda hot.I love Sai.

#25 Mar 30th 2008, 10:04am
Innerstruggle88

im with u my brother!! this pairing is so.so.so.so.so.so WRONG!! and their is so many fics with this pairing and i just dont get it? i'll admit the two have a history and yes they have both been alone and shi..stuff but when does being brothers brought together by going through the same kind of loneliness turn into major GAYISM!! or yoi.....or......yuoi orwhaterveritscalled!!

Well thats my rant done

by innerstruggle88

#26 Apr 20th 2008, 4:52pm
The Scarlet Pencil

I think the word you're looking for is "yaoi." ^_^

I can see why people ship SasuNaru because of, as you mentioned, their history together, but I've never been able to get the pairing myself. XD Like you, I find them to have a brotherly relationship, not a lovers relationship. It just totally depends on how you read their interaction, I guess. But in general, I find the SasuNaru fandom to be riddled with OoC and cliches, so I stay away as a matter of principle. ^^

#27 Apr 20th 2008, 4:58pm . Edited Apr 27th 2008, 1:30pm
yaoi-productions-19

I love NaruSasu... NOT SASUNARU!!!!! Sasuke's the one with uke in hs name not Naruto! Uh Duh!!!! Plus, Naruto is stronger than Sasuke will ever be, thus making him on top! I hate Sasuke-seme fangirls!!!!! And Im sure you hate me for not liking him as Seme, but thats how the world turns, babe! Im sorry... if you ment Naruto and Sasuke together period... then I guess I wasn't much help here... I apologize deeply... --DONTHATEME!!!--

#28 Jun 13th 2008, 8:52pm
yaoi-productions-19

I love NaruSasu... NOT SASUNARU!!!!! Sasuke's the one with uke in hs name not Naruto! Uh Duh!!!! Plus, Naruto is stronger than Sasuke will ever be, thus making him on top! I hate Sasuke-seme fangirls!!!!! And Im sure you hate me for not liking him as Seme, but thats how the world turns, babe! Im sorry... if you ment Naruto and Sasuke together period... then I guess I wasn't much help here... I apologize deeply... --DONTHATEME!!!--

#29 Jun 13th 2008, 8:53pm
Shiruwanasu

I always liked making the lone badass characters uke.

And it gets on my nerves when they butcher Naruto's character and make him a weak uke.

Although I don't like them together I read them sometimes if they're a side pairing.

#30 Jun 14th 2008, 3:04am
thexamimi

Naruke looks better than Sasuke. Not the butchered ones either...

But NaruSasu does make more sense. Still, to ease meh appetite, I'd go for SasuNaruSasu. It's not crack. There are alot of hints of yaoi in the shonen ai thing.

And the brotherly love...yeah, doesn't really suit me. Sure, Naruto thinks it's a brother bond, but the 'what ifs' in fanon makes it more than that.

And I am an insinuator, so I like that pairing.

ItaSaiSui, sounds like a sexy OT3 XD.

OMG YES AND SUISASUNARU!!!!!!!!!-orgies-

I'm making a quick sketch of them right now...

#31 Jun 14th 2008, 2:59pm
thexamimi

Quick sketch of SuiSasuNaru.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k76/beep_bop_playa/f-2.png

#32 Jun 14th 2008, 3:48pm
yaoi-productions-19

Sorry for the double reply! I hate this stupid comp.! --Kicks it--

#33 Jun 15th 2008, 8:42pm
French Kissing Down Under

How do you get Naruto's and Sasuke's brotherly relationship and come out with a gay pairing, how?

#34 Jun 16th 2008, 2:18am
The Scarlet Pencil

*shrugs* It just depends on how you are viewing it. "Slash goggles" if you will. What looks like brotherly affection to you and me looks like heavy subtext to a yaoi fan. ^^

#35 Jun 16th 2008, 5:57pm
flame67

I totally agree with you,I have never read yaoi and never will,just seeing their names in pairings bugs the heck outta me.

#36 Jun 16th 2008, 9:17pm
Icha Icha Is Love.

"I totally agree with you,I have never read yaoi and never will,just seeing their names in pairings bugs the heck outta me."

I think it's kind of ironic that you say you'll never read yaoi, yet your icon is Haku...who was, well, very obviously smitten with a man.

I love SasuNaru/NaruSasu because it could be proven that they're one of the only canon couples in Naruto. It has much more evidence than any other pairing I've seen yet.

#37 Jun 21st 2008, 12:10am
The Scarlet Pencil

*waves hand* SasuNaru isn't canon. Lots of subtext /= canon. Only stuff like AsuKure is canon, because it is explicitly stated. ^^

#38 Jun 21st 2008, 12:22am
Icha Icha Is Love.

Not necessarily. That's exactly what subtext is, though; to go all philosophical on you, what is subtext if it doesn't hold a deeper meaning? (Especially with Naruto, where one of the key themes is 'looking underneath the underneath'.)

I think Kishimoto, being a huge SasuNaru fan, put all he could into Naruto without explicitly stating it. It, in my opinion, means so much more that way.

God, it's been so long since I've posted on forums! I kind of missed it...

#39 Jun 21st 2008, 6:37am
The Scarlet Pencil

Subtext is romantic feelings that have some backing in the canon, but it still isn't canon. It doesn't matter how much they hang over each other in the manga, until there is a spoken confession or some other confirmation of the relationship, the relationship isn't canon. I mean, some pairings, like SasuNaru, may have bunches of subtext to play with, but that doesn't make it any more canon than say, GaaNaru is. ^^

Kishimoto does have a habit of catering to his most rabid fanbase. *the SasuSai scene, for example* XD

Welcome back, then! :)

#40 Jun 21st 2008, 6:57am
Icha Icha Is Love.

Confirmation of SasuNaru = half the series. I mean, I've seen no rule that says for a relationship to be real it has to be said in words that there is something. Maybe you are interpreting what I say to mean that "offscreen [offpage :P]" there is something going on romantically between Naruto and Sasuke...? No. I believe what we see in the manga and anime is the only evidence we get to work with fairly.

Which brings me to my first point: what Sasuke and Naruto have isn't the typical anime fall-in-love story. What they have is much deeper and much more realistic. You and I, I believe, agree up until the point where it turns romantic in nature. You think it's very deep friendship (correct me if I'm wrong), but I think that's how they pass it off because neither, really, knows what love feels like.

See: Sasuke saving Naruto's life countless times, Naruto turning Kyuubi pretty much only for Sasuke, Naruto making some less-than-straight comments about Sasuke's looks, their equality, etc. There are a lot of quotes, too, that demonstrate my point.

I like to think, though, that I'm less of a rabid fangirl and, well, smarter. That's not to say I didn't enjoy the SasuSai scene...

Thank you for the welcome. And I'm so glad you can reason things out intelligently unlike most people. Gracias.

#41 Jun 21st 2008, 12:59pm
Icha Icha Is Love.

And don't get me started on GaaNaru. You're gonna hate me for this, but I think GaaNaru is one-sided canon. Again, though, Gaara is freakishly bad at love...hence the uncertainty.

#42 Jun 21st 2008, 1:02pm
The Scarlet Pencil

Ah, I see what you're saying then. :) I agree, they definitely do care deeply for each other. After all, their friendship is the driving force of the series, really. ^^ And I agree that it comes down to interpretation. I personally believe that they have a deep friendship, but not a romantic relationship. But I definitely see what you mean. ^^

Haha, I don't think you're a rabid fangirl at all. You're far too polite and thoughtful for that. ^^ And I enjoyed the SasuSai scene, if only because of Sai's reaction, or lack thereof. XP

You're welcome. And thank you for the complement. :)

As for GaaNaru being onesided... I can see subtext for Gaara liking Naruto, definitely. However, there is some text for Naruto liking Gaara, such as how adamant he was about saving Gaara. (Haha, the whole rescue Gaara arc was very GaaNaru-ish. XD) Then again, that could just be Naruto's general slashability. Because Naruto goes with everyone that breathes in the series, practically. XD *is partial to ShikaNaru, personally*

#43 Jun 21st 2008, 1:32pm
fisah

I used to see see SasuNaru as romantic but when they refered to themselves as brothers (and Naruto still thinks like that, in regards to the recent chapter where he said to Itachi I am a better brother or something) I think that it kind of botched it so I can't say I think their relationship is romantic at all.

If this was pre-brotherhood comments, I'd probably agree with you Gerad :D

*and I have a feeling you're going to give me hope for SasuNaru because you are arguing eloquently*

Oh, and a welcome back to you, and it's nice to see you again Scarlet :D

LOL, I agree with Naruto's slashability.

#44 Jun 21st 2008, 2:03pm
Icha Icha Is Love.

See, the brothers thing doesn't really throw me off. Like I stated before, fisah, neither have really felt anything deeply romantic for another person...ever. Naruto liking Sakura doesn't count because that is more of a crush than anything and that, even, evolves into brotherly affection as Naruto matures.

Here...I will demonstrate my point with an infalliable and logical graph:

The Amount of Emotion Naruto Shows to Both Sasuke and Sakura

Sakura: XXXX

Sasuke: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

(Lol, the X's have no hidden, sexual meaning.)

With Sasuke and Naruto, though, there are so many feelings and nowhere for them to go. Both don't know what to do with their emotions. So they go with the most logical alternative because the thought of romance never even crossed their minds. (Both had no one there to verse them well in the world of romance.)

Let me point out here that I am not saying Sasuke and Naruto have sexual feelings for each other. In fact, I always argue the opposite point. From what I've seen, there has been no indication of that, but there has been an indication of them being in love. Remember that love doesn't always equal sex.

No, I don't think anything explicitly romantic (as in kissing, hugging, ...sex) will actually happen in Naruto...SasuNaru is way too complicated for that. It's through their actions and some of the things they say that they show it.

And OH MY GOD you're so right about Naruto and his easiness. Naruto, you **.

Reminds me of Ed from FMA--he's able to be paired with anyone, too.

#45 Jun 21st 2008, 3:58pm
fisah

Oh man, you're giving me hope for SasuNaru again D:

I understand where you are coming from, but I have a hard time believing that Kishimoto would make that complex and true. I get what you mean about sexual attraction =/= love, but how about Naruto's obvious attraction to females? And how about Sasuke? I mean, with Naruto, you could get why he would go to that route, but I'd expect Sasuke would no the difference between brother and romantic love, you know?

I think Sasuke could tell the difference at least, that's why I find it a bit hard to believe.

LOL, I pair Naruto with practically everybody. ED is like that too, I practically like all pairings for him 0.o

Sasuke is the complete difference, I like him wiht Sakura, Naruto and Itachi D

#46 Jun 21st 2008, 4:30pm
raspberry soap

You make very good points, Gerard Way.

I don't like shonen-ai, personally, but I do acknowlege that Sasuke/Naruto is the biggest pairing in the series. The only thing that really annoys me is the fact that rabid Sasuke/Naruto fangirls jump from shonen-ai(which NaruSasu more accurately is) to yaoi(which it isn't), and are generally pretty rude about it.

Honestly, I just don't look for subtext for male/male pairings, heh. So, I didn't think it was really a pairing until recently.

#47 Jun 21st 2008, 5:46pm . Edited Jul 11th 2008, 2:54am
ChaoticWolf

*hiss* THE YAOI!!! OH DEAR GODS MY EYES!!!!! THEY BURN!!!! seriously where the heck did this pairing spawn from???

#48 Jul 05th 2008, 5:51am
thexamimi

I preferably like a story with shonen ai, not just plain sex. (Because, blah. That's no fun.)

seriously where the heck did this pairing spawn from???

Uh, the manga, obviously. And there are more yaoi couples that are complete crack/somewhat canon.

#49 Jul 05th 2008, 6:46am
TsumikoHan

I think the only reason I like this pairing is because it's funny and fun to read. The fact that they are complete opposites and that they fit so well intrigues me. I'm not really sure if it's crack though. There's a lot of hints that Sasuke used to feel something for Naruto, but I highly doubt Naruto felt the same. I'm not really that obsessed with it, unless the fanfic I'm reading is really good.

#50 Jul 06th 2008, 8:44am


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