Yay or nay? - Katherommy Forum

Topic: Yay or nay?

Okay, so, what do you think about this couple? Personally, they're my favorite couple in PR. Probably due to the fact that Zeo is my fav. season. But anyways, post your comment, opinion, or I guess flame. But please remember to keep it mature and clean.

#1 May 26th 2006, 9:18pm

TommyOliver27

My favorite couple is Tommy and Kimberly. They just soooooooooooooo cute together.

#2 Jun 07th 2006, 7:04am

I think a lot of people go for them cuz they were the first PR couple ever. I mean, they had like what, a million episodes to do for them. But change isn't always taken well with loyal fans of the coupling.

#3 Jun 08th 2006, 12:26am

ULTRA SONIC

For most, it doesn't. Why that's the case I don't think any of us will evah know. But for me, it'll always be Tommy and his Aussie sweetheart, Katherine.

#4 Jun 12th 2006, 9:03pm

I love this couple. I thought they were always going to be my favorite but Mystic Force is hinting at two couples that may surpass them.

I love Tommy and Kat because their love seemed real. It wasn't just "you're hott and I'm hott so lets be hott together." Their relationship was well thought out. It also was mature, which was surprising in the time frame that it was in. I got know puppy dog love vibes when they were together.

#5 Jun 17th 2006, 11:01am

Higuchimon

Kat and Tommy just fit together in my mind. It feels *right*.

#6 Jun 19th 2006, 9:04pm

Cenobite829

I like the Tom/Kat pairing. I've been watching PR from the beginning. Now before I go on just know that Kim is my favorite character. That being said I never really liked the Tom/Kim pairing. The reason is that it looked like puppy love to me. The Kat and Tommy relationship just looked more solid to me. I think the reason is that they were friends first. What do you guys think?

#7 Jul 10th 2006, 11:54pm

True, it did seem a bit more solid...but not because of the fact that they were friends first...well at least for me. It's just that I think that Tommy and Kat were a bit more mature by the beginning of Turbo. Let's not forget that Zeo mostly took place in their junior year of high school cuz Billy, when told to graduate, said that he still had another year left; not the rest of the year, but ANOTHER year left. And the rest of the episodes were during school then at the end of Zeo, they were mostly during the summer time. When we went back into Turbo, they were already graduating, which means, Tommy and Kat had been dating for almost a year by this time...and correct me if I'm wrong but people mature from being sophmores (Tim) to seniors (Kathommy)...it'll catch on:P lol. Any ways, I do think they had a solid relationship since they were going off in different directions and they seemed to still be together by the passing of the torch, which to me says that the relationship was going to last. I mean, come on, think about it...when you're freshmen and sophmores, all you have for responsibility is school, the rest like your friends or hobbies take up most of your time, and rangering for these guys. Once you become juniors and seniors...OMG, life starts kicking in. That's when people start telling you how important it is to look forward towards the future and see what your going to do; example: Tommy's Racing, and Kat's Ballet/Teaching/Environmentalist (whatever angle that girl took), Tanya's Radio Job, or Adam's Stunting Career. Keep in mind, they were showing us all that, plus we still saw Tommy and Kat's relationship stay in tact (one word or two?)...wow, am I making this longer or more serious than it should be or what?

#8 Jul 11th 2006, 6:22am

Cenobite829

No I don't think you are being to serious. Your passionate about it and that is a good thing. While I agree with a lot of what you say there are a few things that you see to much of in the stories that I don't agree with. One of the biggest is the Kat bashing. Some stories even brag about it while others hide it. It is a horrible thing to do. How hard is it to write a good story with Kat in it. Now I just about only read M rated stories so you can correct me if I am wrong but the only Kat stories are her hooking up with other characters and not Tommy, and the ones that do have with Tommy show her as a paranoid insecure woman who thinks that Kim will take her man or a frigid ** that gets dumped. What do you think about that **.

#9 Jul 12th 2006, 7:24pm

Just some person

Me, I like Tommy/Kat and Tommy/Kim, but I lean toward Tommy/Kat more. The thing is, most stories have Kim and Kat hating each other. They were friends, not enemies. And, most of the Tommy/Kim stories do this cliche thing where Kim's raped/abused/pregnant/ect. I mean, there can only be so many things.

Anyway, yeah, it's just authors ruin all of the relationships a lot, at least the ones Tommy has and/or over exaggerate them.

But, I do love Tommy/Kat.

#10 Aug 03rd 2006, 12:48pm . Edited Aug 03rd 2006, 12:49pm

That is really true. I wrote Blooming in where they hated each other, but then I got to thinking...Why put these girls against each other as long as Kat has the guy? Well, I was going to take a different approach towards Budding.

#11 Aug 04th 2006, 4:31pm

Just some person

Yeah. I never understood why they should be mortal enemies. I mean, Kim broke up with Tommy, so she shouldn't hate Kat. And, why should Kat hate her for that? Besides, the Rangers are supposed to be somewhat friends, at least, until a lot of people turn them against each other in FanFictions...

#12 Aug 09th 2006, 2:02pm

Because shippers are obsessed with their couples and if it's different than theirs they don't like it.

As for Tommy with Kim or Kat. I can see him with either, on the show at that time and in the future. You just have to have them all matured right. I agree, Kim and Kat are friends, not enemies.

I just get annoyed when people say that Tommy and Kat are going to be together because of A Season To Remember. I just wish that people understood that it's a future event and can change. That's the only thing that gets me to take the opposing view against Tommy and Kat (even though I do like them). The only couple on the show that is definitely married is Joel and Angela.

Sorry, that just really bugs me.

#13 Sep 28th 2006, 6:52am

Isisthatcan

I love this couple, they're my ultimate favorite! They just seem to fit each other so well, as if they were really made for one another. They're so mature about it and seem like everything about each other and the relationship matters.

I hate the Kat bashing though, especially in T/Kim fics. What are people's problems with accepting that they're friends? None of the three had a problem with it in the show (Kim didn't exactly start bashing Kat's brains out in T:PRM when Tommy hugged her, did she?) and i don't get why people think they'd have a problem with it after growing up and becoming adults. It's kinda childish in a way, as they can write what pairings they like but can't consider that they was no hate between them and just write true to the rest of the show's feel; that they were all really god friends due to their journey as rangers together.

#14 Feb 08th 2007, 6:35am

Wonderfully written. I agree. The bashing is very childish. And Kim choose Kat to take her place, so...

I think people need to stop hating and releazing that they are mature and odds are Kim doesn't hate Kat especially seeing that she moved on from Tommy before Tommy and Kat went out.

#15 Feb 08th 2007, 1:59pm

Higuchimon

Sadly, there are those whose image of Kim as "Tommy's girl" is so central to their concept of *everything* PR-related that the mere thought she might actually choose someone else simply cannot be accepted. *Obviously* the letter was a lie, because Saint Kimberly would never be that *callous* as to not only break up with Saint Thomas, but she would *never* do it with a letter! Should the letter have been faked, then who is the likely candidate? Why, Kat, because (WHILE UNDER A SPELL!) she had an interest in Tommy and is now wearing the pink spandex!

That, of course, is pure sarcasm on my part, but there are those who just will *not* see that yes, really, Kim and Tommy are not some holy sacred Pairing but just a couple of high school kids. They'll *invent* Tommy being depressed about in Dino Thunder, nearly a DECADE later, even when anyone with half an eye could see he had a lot of other things on his mind and none of them were Kim. Or Kat, as far as we can tell.

Frankly, making them so obssessed about each other and bashing Kat at the same time is a huge insult to the actual characters themselves in my opinion.

#16 Feb 08th 2007, 2:06pm

I totally agree.

Kim was not perfect and yes it is believable that you write a letter to break up with someone. Is it her fault that he had it read aloud?

Sure Kat had a crush on Tommy and she spent time with him but nothing really came between the two until the end of Zeo.

In Dino Thunder Kat or Kim are not present, and I have heard people's reasons as to Kim being there on Tommy's mind, however it is just the same as taking a picture of someone glancing at another and saying it's evidence.

This whole love triangle extreme obsession is an insult to the characters. There are stories that I have had to stop reading because they destroy the characters and it's irritating. If you don't like Kat fine, just leave her out of your story in a good way, it's not that difficult to do.

Okay, I think I'm done. Sorry about that.

#17 Feb 08th 2007, 2:11pm

OMG! I JUST HATE SOMEONE UNDER THE SPELL OF DEPRESSION AFTER A LONG TIME OF A BREAK-UP! I think it's one of my pet-peeves when it comes to fics. Having one person still thinking of the other 24/7 is just...ugh! Make them have their own lives. I mean, come on! I can take the person lusting over the other after all those years still, I can believe sparks flying once they c each other again, and I can accept the fact that love never dies. But please, let the other person have a life after the break-up and not be oppressed by their own depression of long lost love after a decade of not seeing the person. It's just unrealistic, immature, and cliched on the character's part.

#18 Feb 12th 2007, 7:36pm

I agree. I mean it's one thing to think about them for a little while after the break up, but years? And besides why can't someone go on living their life after a break up, it's not like they died. It might be hard and maybe they'll get with the person again, but it doesn't mean they're sitting at home every night wraught with depression about it.

#19 Feb 13th 2007, 8:40am

pinkpower

I don't want to offend anyone, but it has to be said.

Tommy and Kimberly belong together. MM is my favorite season mainly because of Tommy and Kimberly. That whole letter thing was out of character and it's something Kimberly would never do to Tommy, because she's in love with him. Kat was just the rebound girl and nothing more. Tommy only loved Kat as a friend. That and she gets on my nerves. That whole "healing of the heart" thing TomKat fans says is complete bull. She was being a **, not a friend. I mean geeze, give the guy a week. Plus making Tommy and Kat get married in A Season to Remember was a joke. One, Zordon was alive and he died. Two, REBOUND. Three, To bring back Kimberly after Tommy just got married was stupid. He obviosuly still loved her. I mean to you see how hurt he looked that she didn't remember him because of that stupid spell. That and he really got worried about her, probably more than Jason. And finally, Tommy and Kimberly belong together, period. Also, "Kim not being able to fight" is also wrong. Amy Jo Johnson did most of her stunts while Catherine Sutherland did none. LAZY!

Plus what about all the Tommy and Kimberly moments? They rocked.

#20 Apr 28th 2007, 5:10pm

zeopurple

I really shouldn't respond to you but I guess i'm feeling controversial or something. Kim broke up with Tommy get over it. The writers obviously wrote it like that for a reason. Possibly because they thought people might actually watch the show for what it was really about a team of superheros and not a romantic love story. Also because AJJ wanted off the show so it made no sense to have Tommy pining away for Kim when she wasn't even around. IT's apart of life most people do not ride off into teh sunset with their high school sweetheart. It's very belieable to think that Kim and Tommy might have found a deeper love with other people once they were older and more mature. What they had on the show was more like puppy love. Oh and Amy Jo did her own stunts because of her background in gymnastics and all she did was do some flips and tumbles and a lot of the actors even Jason David Frank didn't do every single stunt. I think Cat Sutherland's skills progressed a lot on the show and she could hold her own as well as Kim. I think that whole Kim can't fight thing is because the writers always made her the damsel in distress with Tommy having to save her all the time.

#21 Apr 28th 2007, 11:19pm

Lone Nightblade

I'll play your game pinkpower. This could be fun. Let's see...Kimberly would never send a letter to Tommy and break up with him. After all, that damn ** Kat was right there with the powers she clearly stole from Kimberly. It's not like Kimberly voluntarily gave Kat the pink ranger powers (making her the crane in the falcon/crane combo, ironically enough) or something like that. Kat was such a ** because as soon as Kimberly dumped Tommy she was all over him trying to have him all to herself. She didn't set him up on a date with another girl or anything like that. It's not like Tommy was the one to ask HER out. Maybe Kat's an evil siren in disguise and seduced him with her magic powers. That **.

...Oh wait.

Where the hell are you getting this "Tommy and Kimberly belong together" stuff? Did God himself tell you this or something? They were a great couple, but look at it in the big picture. They were a high school couple from freshmen to senior year and they broke up when they went long distance. It happens. Tommy was clearly just as worried about Jason as he was Kimberly when they were under the spell...did you notice the look on Tommy's face when Jason was hanging over that pit of lava. Probably not, I bet you didn't finish the movie and just kept rewinding and watching the scene where Kim kicked Kat in the stomach over and over. And lastly...what the hell? Where are you getting this crap? Sutherland did her own stunts. Look! You can see her FACE when she's fighting unmorphed. Even if she didn't though, what does that have to do with anything? Do you hate Kat so much you have a grudge on the actor? That's pretty pathetic.

#22 Apr 29th 2007, 12:02am . Edited Apr 29th 2007, 1:14pm

Tommy and Kimberly belong together.

I have to agree with Lone Nightblade: Did God himself tell you this or something? They were a great couple, but look at it in the big picture. They were a high school couple from freshmen to senior year and they broke up when they went long distance. It happens.

MM is my favorite season mainly because of Tommy and Kimberly.

Well than stay in life at one moment, don't ever move foward. You can still like them and watch MM over and over again, but that doesn't mean Kim didn't break up with him.

That whole letter thing was out of character and it's something Kimberly would never do to Tommy, because she's in love with him.

Well, obviously Kim did write the letter and broke up with Tommy because she found someone else. Maybe they might get back together later, who knows. But for that time they did break up, it does happen.

Kat was just the rebound girl and nothing more. Tommy only loved Kat as a friend.

Rebound girl? That was Heather. Kat never crossed the line unless Tommy opened up to it. And do you realize how long it was until they went out on a date? 31 episodes. That's about 5-7 months. Plenty of time for her to NOT be the rebound girl.

That and she gets on my nerves.

Kat does or Catherine. There's a difference.

That whole "healing of the heart" thing TomKat fans says is complete bull. She was being a **, not a friend.

How is that bull? She was trying to help him when he was obviously in a lot of pain. Yeah she's a horrible person (note my sarcastic voice).

And how is she a ** by being a friend. Billy was there too encouraging Tommy. So I guess Billy is a ** who only wants Tommy.

I mean geeze, give the guy a week.

See above.

One, Zordon was alive and he died.

In A Season To Remember where does it say Zordon?

Two, REBOUND.

Heather.

Three, To bring back Kimberly after Tommy just got married was stupid.

When did Tommy get married?

He obviosuly still loved her.

Love can be for friends as well.

I mean to you see how hurt he looked that she didn't remember him because of that stupid spell.

Yeah, he's hurt. Who wouldn't be when someone really close doesn't remember you?

That and he really got worried about her, probably more than Jason.

How do you know he wasn't more worried about Jason? Did he ever say that? Jason was like his best friend, his brother.

And finally, Tommy and Kimberly belong together, period.

Once more, Tommy obviously moved on. Kim moved on. So really how can you say they belong together period?

Also, "Kim not being able to fight" is also wrong. Amy Jo Johnson did most of her stunts while Catherine Sutherland did none. LAZY!

Do you know what the real world is? Because Amy Jo Johnson might be able to do those stunts, but Kimberly is NOT Amy Jo Johnson. Kim is a CHARACTER in a SHOW. She is NOT REAL. I mean are you saying that for a few years Amy Jo Johnson was able to morph into the pink power ranger?

Kim couldn't really fight, and Kat couldn't really fight. I mean they could hold up well in fights, but there's no doubt that other people could beat them easily.

Plus what about all the Tommy and Kimberly moments? They rocked.

What about all the Tommy/Kat moments or Jason/Kim moments, they rocked.

#23 Apr 30th 2007, 2:20pm

pinkpower

Stop twisting my words around. Billy is a believable friend but Kat was after Tommy from the start. It was completely obvious. And I'm not ever going to believe that Kim wrote the letter for another guys. There could have been some other reason. And you TomKat fan, for some reason, like to dwell on A Season To Remember. Which is proabably one of the worst epsidoes. Tommy was obviosly in love witn Kim. Kat gets on my nerves, I've never met Catherine, so that's history.

How about this, in Turbo, Tommy had to save Kat from a snake, the poor guy looked annoyed out of his mind. Then she went flying over a cliff and tried to morph. Hello? Isn't she suppose to be a pro diver? Meanwhile, Tommy did a perfect dive without trying to morph.

#24 Apr 30th 2007, 3:16pm

Wow, do you have nothing better to do? It's obvious your are in La La Land where no one will get through the bubble that is your Tommy/Kim love.

As for the dive thing. Here's a newsflash. Their were rocks below, an experience diver knew it was to dangerous to make the dive. Therefore, she morphed.

For some reason, In your adorable world it is called annoyance, Tommy Oliver did not care about the rocks below. He didn't know if Kat was hurt or not. He just dived over the edge because he knew she had went over it.

Kim wrote the letter, get over it. The reason could have been, she out grew the juvenile relationship she had with Tommy and wanted something more. Or she should could have been pmsing...WHO CARES. She wrote it and dumped him.

Kim got on my nerves. Her voice had a nails on a chalk board vibe. She became a shell of her former self when she was put in a relationship with Tommy. She turned her back on Jason, Trini, and Zack in favor of aisha, Adam, and Rocky, in true b*tch form. She would not leave the team to be with her mother, but when something she wanted came along, she left with the quickness. That is called selfish.

Not to mention, Kim gave in example of how she would treat Tommy once she found another guy in "A Potion Notion." The spell made her think she was in Love with Skull. She dropped Tommy with a drop of a hat, without a proper break up and started to hug up with Skull. A letter seems right up her selfish little alley.

#25 Apr 30th 2007, 3:42pm

Pinkpower- some other reason she wrote the letter? LOL. Why is it so hard for some to believe that Kim actually DID find someone else? And even if Kat WAS crushing "soooooo" ** Tommy, so what? It's not a law against finding somebody attractive- it just proves you're alive. The problem would've been if she'd acted on it- which she didn't. Again, HE asked her out. Deal with it.

And hating Kat simply 'cause she replaced Kimberly is more than a lil bit ridiculous to me. That means we should all hate Adam, Rocky, Aisha, Tanya, TJ, Cassie, Ashley, etc.

I know a few diehard TomKim fans that are pretty mature- one happens to be an excellent writer. They'd be ashamed they're fans at all if they ever read some of what you've written here.

#26 Apr 30th 2007, 5:58pm

ULTRA SONIC

Just out of curiousity pinkpower, do you know the meaning of the words, "Troll"?

An "Internet troll" or "Forum Troll" is a person who posts outrageous messages to bait people to answer. A "Forum Troll" delights in sowing discord on the forums. A troll is somebody who inspires flaming rhetoric, someone who is purposely provoking and pulling people into flaming discussion, which usually ends with name calling and a flame war.

I've been reading some of your posts, and all I'm seeing is you trolling, trolling, and trolling.

Quit your trolling now, 'cause your only makin' y'self look stupid.

#27 Apr 30th 2007, 7:13pm . Edited May 01st 2007, 3:55pm

zeopurple

Wow, pinkpower or whatever your name is. A Season to Remember is the worst PR episode? You obviously didn't watch very many of them because there were a lot worst episodes in MMPR. And that whole bit about Kat falling off the cliff and not doing a perfect dive. Oh I'm sorry, there's this huge snake behind me and my boyfriend just told me to jump out of the way but wait, let me stop and do this perfect dive instead of moving out of the way to save my life. THe fact that Kat tried to morph while falling shows that she was using some common sense. It was probably the morphing that kept her from being hurt a lot worse than she was. And the only reason Tommy was shown doing a perfect dive was because (as much as I love Tommy) the show treated him like he was this God who was perfect and was the only one who could save anyone. ANd I don't know how you could possibly think that Tommy was annoyed at having to save her..it looked more like fear and concern that someone he loved was in danger. Jumping off that cliff without morphing just shows that Tommy was more concerned about her life than he was his own.

Just do us all a favor and stop posting on this forum.

#28 Apr 30th 2007, 9:55pm

It's been taken care of...just go about your normal lives...

#29 May 01st 2007, 1:52pm

Okay, well than I won't comment to her because I believe that you took care of it. I just wanted to say that Kadeana, CoolDiva, and zeopurple you took the words right out of my mouth.

And ULTRA SONIC and Purple Strobe thank you so much.

#30 May 02nd 2007, 7:21am

Kim's name came out of Jason's mouth. I believe he's years ahead of Tommy in being her true soul mate. Watch how she stares into his eyes and smiles at him all adoringly. Who did Kim hug in the end? Who did Tommy hug?

Kat was referenced in Dino Thunder oh wise one. Or did you watch that horrid episode Legacy of Power?

#31 May 02nd 2007, 4:27pm

Ignore her. She's just trying to stir-up trouble, if you don't give into her, she'll go away.

#32 May 02nd 2007, 4:47pm

I know it's hard, but, ya gotta try and tune her out. She's really going out of her way to start drama.

#33 May 02nd 2007, 4:53pm

LOL, I shall ignore. Sorry guys. ^_^

#34 May 02nd 2007, 5:02pm

LOL...it's funny to me how all of this is working out. She comes in, insults Kat, then apologizes for it and today here she is again. She's like something stuck to the bottom of your shoe that just won't go away (and trust me, I ain't talking about gum). I really wish Tommy/Kim fans would stop referencing the whole looking into their eyes like at the end of the MMPR Movie since that's the only look they had of love. Yet, I was talking about all the other looks that TOMMY/KAT had during the entirety of the show, which were COUNTLESS.

#35 May 02nd 2007, 5:03pm

Plus... I really hate to break it to them, MMPR:TM wasn't CANON!!! That movie is considered AU in the PR universe, since they get their ninja powers a different way in the series. Turbo's the only canon movie. *le sigh*

#36 May 02nd 2007, 5:30pm

Cult fans only see what they want. They ignore the way Kim smiled and looked at Jason in the Turbo movie and how Tommy hugged Kat at the end. And I wonder if she knows about how it was originally planned to mention in "Forever Red" that Kim had married Skull. LOL.

#37 May 02nd 2007, 5:40pm

I hate to say it, but I really wish they wouldn't have cut that out. Wouldn't that have put a bee in everybody's bonnet. To have it CANON that Kim married Skull. LOL

#38 May 02nd 2007, 5:51pm

It definitely woulda been interesting. LOL.

#39 May 02nd 2007, 5:57pm

ULTRA SONIC

You people don't scare me one bit. And yes, a lot of the MM episode were pretty bad, but not as worse as A Season To Remember. Gosh, you use that excuses all the time as if Tommy and Kat really did have a future together, well nothing has referenced it since, yet Dino Thunder and Forever Red have referenced to Kimberly.

-pinkpower

Yep, definitely a troll.

And ULTRA SONIC and Purple Strobe thank you so much.

-JuseaPeterson

No problem.

#40 May 02nd 2007, 6:25pm . Edited May 02nd 2007, 6:30pm

Gotta be, Ultra Sonic. Why waste time bashing a fictional character? And Jason's the one who said something about Kim in FR- plus, he was talking about the PAST. Jesus!

#41 May 02nd 2007, 6:30pm

I hate to say it, but I really wish they wouldn't have cut that out. Wouldn't that have put a bee in everybody's bonnet. To have it CANON that Kim married Skull. LOL

LMAO...it WOULD'VE been hilarious.

Besides, yeah, Jason DID say that Tommy 'WAS' kissing on Kimberly in the Youth Center while he was out fighting monsters. I don't get how that's referenced that they stay together.

#42 May 02nd 2007, 7:18pm

It's one of those things, everyone looks for things to rationalize their position, they see that as a 'rationalization' that Tommy and Kim are MTB. I would love to do a case study about cult fans. I think it would be fascinating.

#43 May 02nd 2007, 7:35pm

More than fascinating.

#44 May 02nd 2007, 7:59pm

Cult fans are very interesting individual. It's like "you have to have a passport" to get to their world. LOL

#45 May 03rd 2007, 8:00am

LOL!

#46 May 03rd 2007, 11:33am

pinkpower

Bite me!

#47 May 07th 2007, 8:32pm

Sweetie... isn't it past your bedtime?

Anyway, to try to get this thread back on topic, and considering I haven't said anything on the subject of Tommy and Kat in this board. They were a sweet stable couple in the show, I enjoyed them. Kat has always had this sophistication and eligance that I admired.

I don't have a favorite couple. I enjoy Adam/Tanya, and alot of unconventional couples. I write almost everyone, currently I'm on a Adam/Kira post-DT kick. I don't know why, I just like the idea of them together.

#48 May 07th 2007, 8:39pm

zeopurple

Seriously, please stop coming to this board. Your topics have been deleted so let's just leave it at that shall we.

#49 May 07th 2007, 9:52pm