I was thinking what people thought about me making a story about the SPD rangers being the Zeo Rangers great, great, grandchildren. Something happens that has to be done to save their great, great, grandparents. So, what do you think? Or am I just wasting my time and ideas?

Now it does sound pretty tricky to do (the timeline and all), but just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it can't be done. Believe me, I thought something like that when I got started on BTS a year and a few months ago, I wondered if the idea I had in my head would work, or if it was just a waste of time. But, as it turned out, it wasn't. And I've read your fics, and they're anything but campy or generic. So, if you think your idea could work, then just do it.

Y' know, even though there aren't that many Katherommy fics on the archive, at least the ones that are Tommy/Kat are REAL and believable (unlike a cetain other pairing that's saturating the archive).

Besides, I personally go for quality more than quantity.

1. What if Tommy was never the green ranger? You can make someone else the green ranger or you can completely elemenate him. You must justify how or if Tommy is chosen to be the white ranger.

2. What if Katt was the original pink ranger? Kim is the warrior sent by Rita to stop the rangers.

Play around with these and let me know what you think.

1. Kat was the green ranger and Kim was the pink. As such Kat was also the white ranger. What happens when an evil Tommy shows up to break up the rangers? What happens when Kim leaves for Florida? If you have Kat become the pink ranger and Tommy the white how does the team react? They would be used to Kat as the leader. Do they treat Tommy with distrust or open arms?

2. This idea I believe must be written with maturaty and the people that read this forum have just that. What if Tommy was attracted to Trini instead of Kim? How would Billy and Kim feel? Would Trini dismiss Tommy?

3. Tommy finds one more Dino gem. Who does he get to be the new ranger? Only rule is it must be a girl.

Have fun and let me know what you think.

I might try my hand at one of 'em.

1. What if Tommy's brother tried to take Kat from him? I just think this would be a good story to show some internal strife on Kat's part because how does she tell Tommy without destroying him? Do not use an evil spell to explian why his brother is going after Kat.

2. What if King Mondo made Tommy's brother a monster and the only way to save him was to take his place? Would Tommy make the ultimate sacrifice? Would Kat be willing to let him go through with it? What would Tommy do if someone else, writer's choice, took his brother's place?

3. In the episode "King for a Day" Tommy is brainwashed. What if he never broke the programming? Where would the rangers be and would Zordon strip Tommy of his powers? Also where would that leave Kat and Tommy?

4. What if both Tommy and Kat had stayed evil? Could the rangers ever defeat them? Who is the white ranger and who takes over for Kim when she leaves or does she not leave?

Have fun with these ideas and let me know what you think.

1. What if Tommy's brother tried to take Kat from him? I just think this would be a good story to show some internal strife on Kat's part because how does she tell Tommy without destroying him? Do not use an evil spell to explian why his brother is going after Kat.

2. What if King Mondo made Tommy's brother a monster and the only way to save him was to take his place? Would Tommy make the ultimate sacrifice? Would Kat be willing to let him go through with it? What would Tommy do if someone else, writer's choice, took his brother's place?

3. In the episode "King for a Day" Tommy is brainwashed. What if he never broke the programming? Where would the rangers be and would Zordon strip Tommy of his powers? Also where would that leave Kat and Tommy?

4. What if both Tommy and Kat had stayed evil? Could the rangers ever defeat them? Who is the white ranger and who takes over for Kim when she leaves or does she not leave?

Have fun with these ideas and let me know what you think.

What if Tommy kept going out with Heather? How would Kat feel knowing that she set them up? Would she be supportive or a little underhanded? Try writing both ways and see what happens.

Ellen Brand did that already in the very first story of her Personality Conflicts series.

I thought someone had done that already.

Honestly, I thought she could have done it better. Tommy's having mental problems, then suddenly, BAM, in the middle of a battle, David and Kat are confessing their love for one another.

I'd like to see a Kat x David fic where their mutual interests are explored and they become friends first and then fall in love, and where Kat just isn't dating Tommy at the time. Not that I expect to ever see it.

As for the ideas, they would make for interesting fics- if done properly. Nothing OOC, no spells... just human and realistic as possible. Just normal people having normal everyday feelings and urges.

But I feel what you're saying. A lot of HS fics could be done a helluva lot better.

But can I ask you WHY you got rid of such an amazing fic?

Next as for the potential for bashing in some of the stories if you wanted to bash you would no matter what the idea. It could be the safest idea and you would still find a way to slam those that you don't like. That is why I didn't post my ideas on the forums that was for everyone's ideas. I posted them here because of the views I saw in the other forums. I trust the people that write and read these forums not to bash and to handle it with maturity.

Cool Diva I know how you feel with not liking where your story is going or posting it to soon. When I first posted my story "An X in the Equation", my first shameless self premotion I feel so dirty, I left out a lot of detail in the story and had to go back and rewrite some of it. But what you have problems with, action, is the one thing I can write well or so I am told. Just keep trying I really like some of your other stories.

Now here is a huge challenge for all of you. If you choose to write it then post here to let us know what the story is. I will probably get yelled at for this but here we go.

There is a power raanger reunion that takes place between the end of Zeo and the Turbo movie. Tommy and Kat are going out. It is revieled that the man that Kim left Tommy for is actually Jason his best friend. The reason Jason never told Tommy is that Kim asked him not to because she wanted to tell him. Here is the challange pick one of the below story lines and write it. please only use one per a story.

1. They all get along great. Any conflict is external from the machine empire, Rita and Zed, or a oc villian. Only the Zeo rangers have power and not Jason because he lost the gold power.

2. The internal conflict is in Tommy. The letter was not that long ago at the most a year so the wounds aare still fresh. How does he handle this? Does he still have feelings for Kim and is he willing to risk his friendship with both Jason and his relationship with Kat to resolve them?

3. The internal conflict is in Kim. She feels bad about the letter but does she feel about seeing Tommy again especially in the arms of another woman. How does she deal?

4. The last is Kat's conflict. Is she suspious of Kim? Maybe she feels that she should let Tommy get with Kim if that is what makes her happy or maybe she won't let go with out a fight.

As always legth is up to the writer and please no bashing. Be mature. I hope i can get four stories written one with each story line. Just put that it is the Cenobite Challenge so I know that it is one of these story lines. Also if you can expand on this then drop a line here so I can comment please.

What if during Tommy's racing career he was involved in a horrible accident that left him in a wheelchair? How would that effect his later years during PRDT? I see him as a kind of Proffesor X mentor but use what ever you think is approprate. Is he bitter to at one time be called the best and now he can't even walk?

You see this is what happens to me. I get intresting ideas but know I will not have the time to write them but I can't just let them go. That is why I am glad you guys have a board like this.

AHEM! And I should care because...I'm j/k. I completely agree with you on that one. But why? Why D, did you have to get rid of that one? Any chance we'll be seeing it in the future?

Oh, and Cenobite, yeah, immaturity is everywhere in the board, including some of my own stories, but...I like Kat (she's by far my favorite ranger), and I'm actually thinking of bashing her(not badly) on one of the fics I'm writing. I don't think it's if you like the character or not, I believe that at some time in a challenge, you sometimes have no choice.

And the reason Jason was attracted to and went out with Emily was...?

Everyone forgets Emily.

*I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here }:-D*

Cenobite, I acutally have a story in the works that is Jason/Kim, where he is the guy in Kim's letter. It's more complicated that that, and there is an explanation to why he's, and I use this term loosely, 'dating' Emily at the end of Zeo. That story would also explore how Tommy feels/reacts when he puts two and two together and realizes that Jase is the guy.

Bashing her? Or writing her in a negative light without destroying her personality? There's a difference between bashing a character, and showing a character in a negative light... the first is done out of spite, and is ususally completely OOC, the latter is done because something in the story requires that character to be shown in a negative light, and can be done in the bounds of characterization and personality.

I'm not saying they weren't dating, I thought they were, I'm just saying that there are a lot of ways to look at those situations.

Hence the term...playing devil's advocate. In Jason and Emily's view, you can't really look away to the attraction that these two had for one another. I could understand Tommy and Kat holding hands at the end and Hawaii Zeo never happening. Looking at that situation, one could say that the friendship was just very close. But getting into Jason and Emily...come on...you can't say that friendship was between those two while walking off together like they did at the end of Zeo.

Bashing her? Or writing her in a negative light without destroying her personality? There's a difference between bashing a character, and showing a character in a negative light... the first is done out of spite, and is ususally completely OOC, the latter is done because something in the story requires that character to be shown in a negative light, and can be done in the bounds of characterization and personality.

Yeah...ummm...it's a little more bashing really. I was actually thinking of that, cuz Kim and Kat get into a fight. Kim being evil of course says bad things about Kat and Kat, being good, tries to brush things off. They're insults, so I guess I would call it bashing, but, I don't really think I'd be putting her in a negative light, which to me, bashing like that would probably not be as bad as putting her personality as dark as an evil character would be.

Okay, Kim being evil... like under a spell evil? Or... I'm making her evil for the hell of it? I think we have different definitions of bashing... LOL

P.S. I'll rest my case with Jase and Emily... lol It might just be me... but I've done things much more intense with people I've just been 'friends' with... and no, not a 'friends w/benifits' thing either, so maybe it's just my friends are more touchy feely than most? LOL... I dunno...

Yeah...keep telling yourself that... :P

I for one did think of Jason and Emily as really dating because of how he left with his arm around her at the end. But putting your arm around someone of the opposite sex doesn't have to mean anything. I had a guy friend who I was very close with and he often would put his arm around me while we were walking somewhere but we were best friends so I never read anything romantic into it. That's just how close we were so Jason and Emily could have been just really close friends who were ok with doing that kind of stuff without it meaning anything. Especially if you go back to that idea and Emily agreed to help him cover his relationship with Kim. Just something for anyone who might be thinking about toying with that idea.

(A) Kim lying to Tommy and the rest of the team

(B) Jason lying to Tommy and the rest of the team

(C) Emily lying to her newly-made friends

(D) Emily relinquishing any free will she has to be a pretend-girlfriend to a guy she's presumably not interested in.

(E) Jason somehow successfully carrying on a relationship with someone thousands of miles away.

It honestly strikes me as just a cheap way to get some "angst" by having Tommy's ex and his best friend dating 'behind his back'. Where does that sound remotely in character for any of them? Kim was honest to Tommy: she fell for someone else and told him about it. Maybe not in the best way, but she still did.

Good fanfic has the characters doing what *they* would do, not what the writer would do in their position or what the writer would have them do just purely for the sake 'Lulz'.

A: How was Kim lying to Tommy and the rest of the team? Strictly because she didn't mention it was Jason? That's an omitence of facts, not a lie.

I do have a Jase/Kim fic dealing with the letter in the works, but I don't want to explain the whole plot and give away the whole story. Suffice it to say that Jason and Emily never 'said' they were dating, and everyone just assumes it.

If you don't like the story idea... that's fine, but it's JUST a story idea... there's no reason to nitpick it apart incessantly.

I'm going to stop debating it here... its all opinions anyway.

What do you guys think of the other ideas?

I don't really think that Jason would do Emily like that really. I sure he'd take her feelings into consideration. Besides, what if Emily dated Tommy? I don't think I've heard that before. Then again, I'd have to write Katherine kicking her butt.

Oh and in regards to:

E) Jason somehow successfully carrying on a relationship with someone thousands of miles away

Its possible to maintain a long distance relationship, it just depends on how willing the two involved are to make it work. So Jason could have maintained a long distance relationship with Emily or even with Kim if he wanted to. Tommy and Kim presumably would have still maintained their long distance relationship if she hadn't met and fallen in love with someone else.

I guess I just like the Kim and Jason pairing because it was supposed to be that way in the Turbo movie but it just didn't make it to the screen.

But, yeah, I like the Jason/Kim pairing too. I think they're great together. Especially since it was CoolDiva the one that make me fall for that couple with her stories. Anywho...I didn't know they were SUPPOSED to be a couple in the Turbo movie. I really wish they would have put their relationship into the movie. *SIGH* God Bless FanFiction. You CAN kind of see them a little close though (a little too close) in the movie.

Oh and I would never yell at you.

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