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Aeris Ultimavara
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Because the other one was getting so long...

I was watching Risk it All again today, and I keep thinking that there really was more behind that opening scene with our fave couple being interrupted by Moseby. When he asks where they're going, it seems to melike Maddie gives a too-simple answer. When she simply says "Home," it seems like she's trying to OVER simplify the matter, like a case of protesting too much (as Shakespeare and Quirky Del would say). And as Maddie is saying "home," Esteban looks at her with a slightly nervous look, as if he were wondering whether she would give them away. Then, when Moseby looks at him for an anwer, he looks a little panicked, like he's trying to come up with an excuse on the spot.

-In a later scene, Esteban says "Maddie will get fired and live poor and alone," the fact that he mentions "alone," could show that it is important to him that she live out her life with someone. Maybe this is on his mind because he's subconciously hoping it will be him.

-Also, we've noticed that M/E are standing next to each other a lot of the time in various episodes, but in the Risk it All caps, I noticed the blocking of the characters is usually M/E really close together in part of the shot, and separated by a significant distance from any other characters.

Example: http://www.ashley-tisdale.com/pictures/displayimage.php?album=502&pos=185

In the pic, our couple is so close they're almost touching, and London is far away from either of them.

-At the end, right after Moseby says that it makes it a little better that they never meant to send the e-mail, they make practically identical movements. Both are looking down and to their right, and at the exact same time lift their heads up to look at Moseby.

#1 Mar 12th 2007, 1:18am
Aeris Ultimavara
Here's something I saw on suitelifefans.com:

"Esteban replaced the Tuck character that appeared in the pilot episode as Moseby's #1 Bell Boy."

Ok, so in that episode, Maddie was clearly supposed to have a crush on Tuck. She got all nervous and dropped her candy when he approached her at the beginning, then he says something like "Hey baby" or whatever when he tells her about the wedding, and at one point Zack asks (in reference to Maddie's perference in boys) "What does he have that I don't have?"

So...if the Tuck character turned into the Esteban character, it seems logical to me that Maddie's crush on that character would still be in place. If the writers intend to have them get together in end, I'm glad they're being more subtle about it now than they were in the 1st episode, because it would make the payoff so much more gratifying than if it were obvious to us from the beginning.

#2 Mar 12th 2007, 7:56pm
captain lyd
OOH, THAT IS SO COOL!

lol, and also just reflecting on your first comment, when Mr. Moseby says, "Where are you going?" They like totally stop dead in their tracks and turn around with this hilarious "caught" look on their faces. I mean you should see how huge Maddie's eyes are.

Also when Maddie spots Esteban, and calls to him to tell him about the email, just look at her eyes. They just totally light up, and she's so happy. Because he brightens her day, of course.;)

#3 Mar 17th 2007, 7:46pm
Alone in the Solitude of Texas
Oh man oh man oh man, I hope you guys are right! It would be so neat if they did end up together...almost ironic, in fact.

But it's totally right when you say that it's good that they made it more subtle!

I wanna watch another episode! Cable needs a channel for the Suite life and the Suite Life only.

#4 Mar 17th 2007, 10:08pm
Alone in the Solitude of Texas
Hey!! I have a majorly over-analized thing to say:

In French 101 when Maddie comes in carrying London's bags and talks to Esteban for a moment, then goes down the steps to set the bags down, and then (I think) London yells. Esteban looks at Maddie...and she never knows it...why? The look on his face is debate: "should I go out there and face whatever's wrong? Or should I stay here and make sure she's safe..."

lol....just had to mention it to someone...

#5 Mar 18th 2007, 3:18pm
captain lyd
aah!! you're so right!! (sorry it took me so long to respond.)

I just watched that part and I was like. "Awwwww......" lol:)

sweet.

#6 Mar 29th 2007, 2:58pm
TSL4life
remember when the flashback in that heart of the tipton episode where Maddie played young Muriel and Esteban played the guy with te mustache? that was cute! I get the feeling love is in the air
#7 Apr 07th 2007, 3:03pm
Aeris Ultimavara
Haha, yeah that scene was great.

Here's my rundown of the new episode Back in the Game:

-She made sure to tell Esteban thanks for his help, but we didn't see her thanking anyone else.

-Just before they started shooting the "dream sequence", the two of them were off talking and smiling together while everyone else what at the front desk. What were they so smiley about, I wonder?

-The hand she had on his arm after they started filming.

-When they were watching the final product, she got all giggly after the shot of Esteban being confused. And when she looked at him first when she asked "What do you guys think?" Also, when she said "Thanks to you guys I won," she was looking at him for the majority of the time she was talking. She only looked at the others when she was almost done talking.

-Lastly, when London and Lance said they wanted to do a sequel, Esteban shoots a concerned glance at Maddie, like he's concerned about how the idea will affect her. He does it when Lance says "We should shoot it in the pool," and again when he stands up to follow London, Lance, and Moseby. Nobody else seems to be this concerned about her feelings...

#8 Apr 09th 2007, 6:41pm
Aeris Ultimavara
When I was watching "To Catch a Thief" today I noticed something interesting. When Maddie, Esteban, and the twins are hiding behind London's couch, Maddie has an arm around each of the boys. But what is Esteban doing? He's got one hand on Maddie's back, and the other on her knee. He's not even touching the boys at all. Now who does it seem like he wants to protect the most? Maddie, of course! It's like a little family unit. The mom takes care of the kids and the dad takes care of the mom. How sweet, lol.

Also, after Muriel falls on the thieves and the foursome does the special handshake move, watch what Maddie does. Even though she's doing the move with Zack, she immediately smiles over at Esteban, and it's only after she catches his attention, and a smile in return, that she looks back down at the twins. Goes to show whose attention is most important to her, eh? ;p

#9 Apr 15th 2007, 10:57am
Aeris Ultimavara
OK everyone, I just found out that the new epsiode called "I Want My Mummy" is airing in the US on Friday,May 11th. From what I've heard this ep. has an E/M centric subplot, so it should be a good episode, eh?
#10 Apr 29th 2007, 5:57pm
Alone in the Solitude of Texas
YAY!!! Captain lyd was telling me about that awhile back...it sounds soooo cool!! maybe it'll inspire me to work on my story!! lol...hehehe...

May 11. I'm marking my calender!

PS: Aeris, have you gotten any farther in Elan, Elan?? I can't wait for the last chapter. I'll be so sad when it's done!

#11 Apr 29th 2007, 7:17pm
captain lyd
Ohh me too! I can't wait! (Even though you'll all probably see it before me..... i have to wait till it comes out on i tunes)

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS EPISODE!

and yes i also can't wait for elan elan... but I don't want it to end:( *cries*

AND YOUR STORY TEXAS!!! lol HURRY UP!:)

#12 Apr 29th 2007, 7:26pm
Alone in the Solitude of Texas
Gosh!! I'm workin' on it, okay??

Oh, you know how it can be...adoring fans...what can I say? I'm me!!

LOL!! Just kidding. I'm sorry I haven't been working on it!! I know how it feels to be left in the dark like that, and yet that's not enough to make me sit my butt down and type!!

#13 Apr 29th 2007, 7:43pm
Aeris Ultimavara
Wow, I feel so loved! I'm looking forward to reading more of you guys' stories too. As for Elan, I got about 95% if it done in one weekend, it's just that last little 5% that is being stubborn. I mean, I know what I want to write but school and everything is keeping me busy as usual. Maybe I should get off of here and go finish that last chapter, hehe.

Before I go, here's something I noticed in TSL. In the Hollywood episode, Maddie came in the door talking about how bad the blizzard was outside. And Esteban did the same thing in the Christmas episode, so, yeah..they are thinking/acting alike!

#14 Apr 29th 2007, 10:32pm
Aeris Ultimavara
Alright everyone. You'll be happy to know that Elan is now FINISHED! Also, don't forget to watch the "I Want My Mummy" episode tomorrow at 7:30/6:30 central.
#15 May 10th 2007, 8:02pm
Aeris Ultimavara
Ok, so I saw this today on the sprouse-fans.com forum:

"Disney changed their schedule, as they do sometimes, and moved I Want My Mummy from May 11 to May 18!"

I guess we'll see what happens tonight.

#16 May 11th 2007, 3:42pm
internalscars
^_^ "I Want my Mummy" was so awesome! I watched it twice, and there was a lot of M/E moments!
#17 May 19th 2007, 9:13am
internalscars
Did anyone else watch it???
#18 May 19th 2007, 9:19am
Aeris Ultimavara
I went out of town & didn't get to see it (it seems like a never see the new eps on the day they premiere.) =(

But it comes on again this Wednesday, May 23 at the regular 7:30/6:30c time, and also that night at 11:00/10:00c.

The next showing after that is this Saturday, May 26th, at 8:30/7:30 pm.

Hopefully I'll be able to find some screencaps or maybe the full vid online somewhere soon.

#19 May 21st 2007, 4:05pm
captain lyd
Oh I just saw it, it's soo cute!

Again, they're really comfortable with each other... I love it when he grabs her arm, just like she usually does to him.

She seemed really interested in hearing about the history of the mummy, and joined his side right away on the issue.

I love it how he yells for her, it's so cute. :) "M-m-m-m-m- MA- ma - MADDIE!!"

lol. And when they leave at the end, she follows him.

One more thing, I know this isn't proof, but I love it when Maddie says. "Or, it could just be Maddie and Esteban...." I just sounds so right when she says their names together! lol, I'm crazy I know...

#20 May 22nd 2007, 5:02pm
Aeris Ultimavara
Yeah, I noticed those moments as well. I loved how she was basically the mother figure in this episode. He called to her for help, and she tried to reassure him that it would be ok.

Also, when the mummy (Cody) came into the lobby, I think I saw his arm around her, or at least it was that hand-on-the-back thing that he does with her a lot.

And when they were fighting over the hat, I was like, "Ahh, they're practically holding hands!"

Oh, yes, and I agree that when she said "we could be Maddie & Esteban," I totally heard it with quotations around the two names, as if "Maddie & Esteban" was like, an official phenomenon. But yeah, it was neat to hear the phrase we use on here all the time actually being said on the show.

I can't wait to watch it again tonight so I can look for more signs of their looove!

#21 May 23rd 2007, 6:41pm
Alone in the Solitude of Texas
Esteban has an amazing screaming voice. I'm serious...I can't scream...and I'm a girl. But he can scream...and it's a manly scream.

I'll stop before I make a fool of myself. Perhaps it's too late.

I loved the "M-m-m-m-m-m-MA-MA-MADDIE!" too! It was great.

And even in the beginning: "Ow! what is this, slap Zack day?"

lol, great episode. And wasn't Esteban's hat to die for?

And Captain, you've done it again! You're not crazy...if you ask a therapist, they might say that her reason for saying "Maddie and Esteban" wasn't to explain something to the stupid man, but because deep down, she liked the sound of it. lol, I should be a therapist. jk!!!!!!!

_____________

"How did you find out the mummy's a fake?" - "Just" Dakota

"It's a fake?" -??can't remember??

"No." Dakota

I love the way he said that! lol

#22 May 23rd 2007, 6:46pm
Aeris Ultimavara
Ok, so the arm around the shoulder/hand on the back thing happens right after they unwrap Cody' face and Esteban goes "It's hideous" and grabs M's arm. He moves around behind her, and you can see him reaching across her back, but the shot changes before he actually gets there.

Also, I noticed that when they were switching Cody with the doll, and Maddie growls at E to hurry up, he doesn't get offended or anything. He's just like "okay." If it had been London yelling at Maddie, or Cody yelling at Zack or any other two characters, I would imagine that they'd talk back and be like "Don't yell at me." But Esteban's just really cool about it, maybe b/c he just wants M to be happy. ;)

At the end, when Maddie says to Dakota that's what he deserved for taking the treasures, Esteban leans in over her to nod his agreement.

And as captain lyd said, when everyone walks off in different directions afterwards, she goes in the same direction he does. I hope they keep giving us good moments like these in the next episodes.

#23 May 23rd 2007, 9:01pm
captain lyd
Okay a few more things. When Esteban first sees the mummy he screams, and runs off. Zack catches him. When he starts to run again, he totally changes directions, and runs toward Maddie.

In the end Esteban yells. "I'll protect you!" He's holding Zack, but when he says that, he looks straight at Maddie.

Maddie says, "Oh that would so put a damper on prom..." Esteban starts to hurry, and seems to agree with her... maybe he's going with her:)?

Also after Maddie said when we put the mummy on the plane, Esteban quickly informs her that. "you can't get there by plane. At the dock, WE have to take a ship, train, and a #5 donkey." It kinda seems like he doesn't mind the fact that he and Maddie will be traveling a long time together. And Maddie grunts in frustration, but she doesn't say anything... maybe 'cause she doesn't mind either, hmmm?:)

Oh and one more thing about the, "We could just be Maddie and Esteban" thing... She says it in the most like, "Duh, it's so obvious" way... kinda like. "Why wouldn't it be, we're always together" lol, okay, getting carried away, I know:)

#24 May 24th 2007, 9:57am
Aeris Ultimavara
Aah, I just watched it again, and he very clearly does turn to her when he says "I'll protect you." Good eyes, captain lyd! =D

Here's a scene I found in "It's a Mad Hotel" that has a lot of M/E implications, and quite a few bonafide moments. OK, so it's the scene where everyone splits into pairs to search in different rooms. This description of the scene is kinda long, but fun to think about. Ok, here goes the play-by-play.

1.) When London takes Esteban's arm and says "If you keep this up and you're getting a sports car," Maddie gets all saracastic when she goes "You guys are gonna make a great team. Too bad you're looking in the wrong place." Why is she suddenly so saucy? Maybe because she's jealous that London got to Esteban's partner.

2.)After she says that, Esteban looks at her with this confused, slightly upset look. I know it's probably b/c he doesn't want to "not" find the money, but you could say it's b/c he doesn't want Maddie to be angry with him.

3.) When M explains she thinks the $'s in the lounge, and Zack goes, "I like the way you think, sweet thang." Maddie only glances at Zack briefly, then immediately shoots this taunting look over to Est. and London. It's very possible that the look was directed mainly to E, as if you to say "I bet you wish I were with you, now."

It's like she wants to punish him for pairing off with London.

4)The possibility is even higher when we look at what she does after Cody says "You like anything she says, desperate thang." She looks at London and Esteban, and her eyes are focused straight across, and slightly up from her. Esteban is straight across, and taller than her - so it's definitely him she's looking at. And she's giving that same, taunting look again.

5)After she does that, Esteban again has a disturbed look on his face. Maybe because he doesn't want to be separated from M? And when Maddie says "We'll go our separate ways and meet back in an hour," she looks at Esteban the entire time she says it. Her eyes move over to London exactly once during the line, and then go back to E again.

6)Next, when Zack says "Finders keepers, losers weepers," and everyone looks really excited just before they run off, M & E lock eyes YET AGAIN. They have been looking at each for for almost the entire scene, and finish it off in the same way.

...So there it was. A seemingly innocent scene that turned into a big M/E fest. ^_^

#25 Jun 10th 2007, 1:59pm
Alone in the Solitude of Texas
WHOO HOO!! You go Aeris!!!! I'm not a big fan of that episode...mostly because E went with London!! lol. Now I want to see it again!! lol

Great observation!

#26 Jun 10th 2007, 7:19pm
captain lyd
lol, sweet!!!! Awesome! Now I love it even more. That episode is soo great. So many moments. And of course hot peppers....lol
#27 Jun 13th 2007, 8:24am
Mondler4EvEr
Hey guys! I feel so bad that I haven't posted here in a while and I was the one who started the forum. lol! I need to catch up with all of the Maddie and Esteban stuff.
#28 Jun 20th 2007, 7:32am
I Am Goners
Hi peoples! i'm new here! and i'm a HUGE MADDIE ESTEBAN FAN!!! so huge i have episodes where maddie and esteban come in contact with each other on tape. and i have a cute m/e pic as my icon. ^_^ (well not anymore)
#29 Jun 21st 2007, 2:15pm . Edited Jul 30th 2007, 5:42pm
Aeris Ultimavara
Ok, so today I was saw a commercial on the Disney Channel that showed a bunch of random clips that were filmed didn't make it in the actual episodes, and there was one of M & E doing this coreographed dance together through the Tipton lobby. It looked like it was from "Moseby's Big Brother," after London tells them they can go to the ball in her place. (The scene in my icon.) It was so cute! I wish they would've left that in the episode. =)
#30 Jun 25th 2007, 6:58pm
captain lyd
AH! NO WAY! Sounds awesome..... wish I could see it... was she wearing the blue dress?
#31 Jun 25th 2007, 9:08pm
internalscars
lolz, yeah, I saw that commercial. ^_^ It's so awesome!!! They weren't wearing their fancy clothes, though, but I wish they did! _
#32 Jun 25th 2007, 9:17pm
Mondler4EvEr
Man! It should've been in the episode! It would've been great to see.

I totally wish that Maddie was in the episode "Loosely Ballroom" so that she could be Esteban's partner. That would've been really cute.

#33 Jun 26th 2007, 4:03am
I Am Goners
Were they wearing their uniforms? cuz i think I saw it.
#34 Jun 26th 2007, 7:49am
Aeris Ultimavara
Yup - and I found some pics of the clip!

Go here:

http://ashley-tisdale.com/pictures/displayimage.php?album=636&pos=12

#35 Jul 01st 2007, 8:35am
I Am Goners
SWEET! THANX!
#36 Jul 01st 2007, 3:41pm
I Am Goners
Hey, i don't know if u guys have seen the pic but here's the pic from risk it all where maddies holding onto estebans arm while they're under moseby's desk.

http://www.ashley-tisdale.com/pictures/displayimage.php?album=502&pos=139

#37 Jul 02nd 2007, 5:51pm
TSL4life
I saw those pictures and I get the feeling in real life there is some kissy kissy goo goo going on!
#38 Jul 02nd 2007, 6:50pm
I Am Goners
why do u think so?
#39 Jul 04th 2007, 10:43am
TSL4life
because I just think they might actually be in love but have yet to tell the world
#40 Jul 04th 2007, 2:31pm
I Am Goners
Have there been any pics or something like that of them together? like just the 2 of them 2gether and them looking at each other the way emma watson and danny radcliffe do? cuz if there is...direct me to 'em!!!

plz?

#41 Jul 04th 2007, 7:46pm
TSL4life
well actually I don't have pics like those but I do know for a fact that Adrian R'Mante has a crush on Ashley Tisdale
#42 Jul 06th 2007, 6:44pm
I Am Goners
HE DOES?!!!!!!!!!! WHERE DID U READ THAT?!!!

TELL ME PLZ!!!!!

#43 Jul 06th 2007, 7:48pm . Edited Jul 06th 2007, 7:52pm
TSL4life
well on imdb.com I found adrian r'mante and I asked him to e-mail me and he did so then I started asking him if he and ashley are dating and he said no but then he said to me "it would be cool if we were though!" and then I asked Cole and Dylan if Ashley & drian have a crush on each other and they said "I don't think so. well not that we know of" and then I asked Cole and Dylan if there would be an episode where Maddie & Esteban have a crush on each other and they said to me "I don't think so. Maddie is 16 and Esteban is 25 or something" then I posted on Ashley Tisdale's youtube thing and asked her if she has a crush on Adrian R'Mante and she didn't reply to me
#44 Jul 06th 2007, 7:59pm
I Am Goners
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is sooo exciting!!! :)

PS: the age difference is 9 years and Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes are married and 16 years apart! If that's acceptable, Maddie/Esteban should be too!

#45 Jul 06th 2007, 8:06pm . Edited Sep 21st 2007, 7:08pm
TSL4life
we can only wish that there be an episode where Maddie & Esteban have an "intimate" moment
#46 Jul 06th 2007, 8:29pm
Aeris Ultimavara
I loved how during "Super Twins" even though Maddie was gone at summer camp, they still found a way to get her and Esteban in scenes together! It could just as easily been Arwin who was sent to tie her up, but they chose to make it Esteban. Coincidence? I think not! =D
#47 Jul 13th 2007, 8:07pm
internalscars
I know, that was so awesome!!! I can't stop smiling about it! I'm so mad at Moseby for making Esteban pick his nose. _
#48 Jul 14th 2007, 10:54pm
I Am Goners
I know! Me too, that was soo mean!!! And my lil' bro had this theroy that Moseby made his two minions take hostage who they love cuz Arwin loves Carey and we all know Esteban likes/loves Maddie!!! :)
#49 Jul 16th 2007, 11:52am
TSL4life
in real life Adrian does LOVE Ashley so it's not in the show but it's in real life
#50 Jul 16th 2007, 1:08pm


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