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Topic: Predictions for Number Three

Here are my predictions for book number three of the Maximum Ride series:

1: Max 2 will end up dying, possibly forcing Max to kill her.

2: Angel will continue to try for the leadership. This will result in a confrontation between Max and Angel, the reasoning of the whitecoats being that whoever wins is strongest anyways and deserves leadership, and that, furthermore, fighting and killing/seriously hurting someone you care about will 'harden' you emotionally, making for a leader who is less based upon emotion and more upon logic.

3: Ari *might* succeed with his kidnapping of Max with Jeb's aid. This will result in Max losing her wings (as mentioned in the book). Max will gain greater understanding of Ari, but will kick his behind regardless. At least she'll be sympathetic about it. Because we know that the whitecoats are capable of giving wings to Erasers, it stands to reason that they'll restore her as well.

4: The relationship between Max and Fang will be fully realized.

5: They'll finally figure out what the whole 'save the world' thing is about.

6: Jeb will be revealed as Max's father. She'll still hate his guts.

7: We might discover that the reason that Max herself is so essential to saving the world is that she is a shapeshifter, as evidenced by the Eraser Max she sometimes sees in the mirror. (Of course, there could be some sort of psychological reason, but this is more fun.)

Well, what do you think? Any other predictions?

#1 Jul 25th 2006, 5:36pm

AllTheNamesWereTaken

My guess is that Itex is actually running the labs and they were created for world domination, rather than saving it. I don't have the books on hand right now for references, but it does seem likely to me.

Now that I think about it, though, I'm not sure if the author would do this. It seems like it would alienate some readers. Whatever. I'm sticking with my prediction.

#2 Jul 26th 2006, 7:36pm

Perhaps this world domination, in the twisted minds of the heads of Itex, is 'saving the world' in their eyes. Max's voice mentions how the adults have ruined the world, if memory serves me correctly. Perhaps Itex believes it is helping to improve the human race via artificial evolution. And if they end up in charge of things as a result, so much the better.

I suppose they view not only their creations, but themselves as superior for having the 'foresight' to do what they are doing. Because Itex seems to own everything, it's quite possible that they could singlehandedly cause an economic collapse, jumpstarting the disaster that they might feel is inevitable anyways, and clearing the path for their recombinants to inherit the earth.

#3 Jul 28th 2006, 4:59pm

I believe that, in MR3, there will be multiple explosions of a caliber to seriously impress both Iggy and Gazzy.

I am not sure there will be any more romance, because I think Max would have to be seconds from death for Fang to tell her anything, he's so secretive (and possibly afraid of her reaction?)

I believe that the Flock will abandon the idea of parents.

I believe that Angel will not seriously try to take over leadership of the Flock. She may mention it once or twice, but I don't think she has the courage Max has.

I believe that Fang will find/reveal his power, and it WILL NOT be invisibility or teleportation; it'll be some sort of "seeing things not as they appear, but as they ARE" deal.

I believe the Voice will reveal, willingly or not, itself to be a creation of Jeb. Max will now learn to forgive Jeb in some small capacity.

At least one important character will die. Ari is most likely, Fang next (dives behind table to avoid rotten produce thrown by Fang Fanatic fangirls).

I believe Ari's anger at Max will implode and he'll become a sobbing wreck.

That's all I got for now...

but only for now. Muahaha!

#4 Jul 30th 2006, 4:04pm

I'm sticking to my 'Angel challenges Max' theory, if only because I like it and because I don't think Mr. Patterson would put the roots of something like that in the story if he didn't plan to go somewhere with it.

I guess we'll all just have to wait and see.

After reading the first book, I thought that the Voice actually WAS Jeb, but I've since changed my opinion. I have no idea what it is.

But I agree with you about the explosions. Booyah!

#5 Jul 30th 2006, 6:43pm

AllTheNamesWereTaken

Hmm. I'd agree about Ari dying, and Jeb being forgiven. Also, I think Fang is likely to die. [deleted, spoilers]. He's not above killing off characters. As for the voice, I don't think it's a creation of Jeb's... I think it IS Jeb.

#6 Jul 31st 2006, 1:06pm . Edited Aug 02nd 2006, 12:45pm

It's a good thing I've already read The Lake House, or else I would've been ticked at you for spoiling it.

Well, maybe Max will forgive Jeb a little bit, but I can't see how she'd ever be able to forgive him entirely. Unless, of course, he dies.

#7 Jul 31st 2006, 2:03pm

I actually think Max may be able to entirely forgive Jeb. Remember, Jeb has been trying to explain himself for two whole books, and Max hasn't let him yet. When he finally gets to explain, maybe Max will understand and be able to forgive him. I hope so, at least; I like Jeb. He's a cool character.

And PLEASE don't talk about The Lake House; I haven't been able to read it yet!!! I am currently erasing my mind of everything that has been said about it...

#8 Jul 31st 2006, 3:21pm

Have you read When the Wind Blows?

#9 Jul 31st 2006, 4:48pm

Nope. I think they're considered "adult fiction," so my mother won't let me near them.

#10 Jul 31st 2006, 6:03pm

True, they've got some pretty mature stuff in them. So I shall not speak of major plot events here, at least not without a spoiler warning.

#11 Jul 31st 2006, 6:12pm

AllTheNamesWereTaken

Crap. I didn't think about whether people had read Lake House. Sorry.

About Max II: I think she'll be back. And maybe not killed. Remember, she seemed pretty sympathetic at times. And she was pretty surprised about what they found on the Itex computers. I remeber something like "they were supposed to be opening file after file about how Itex was polluting the earth" or something. This is part of why I think Itex runs the school.

#12 Aug 01st 2006, 3:58pm

I definetly think Angel will push for leadership. You don't just vaguely mention something like that and then not follow up with it. All the powers she's getting is way too much for a 6 year old. I'm pretty sure she's being corrupted.

The Voice. Ah, the mystery of the Voice. Is it Jeb? Maybe. It's definetly working through Jeb's motives ie: keeping Max alive by warning her about stuff and shoving her destiny in her face. So I'm thinking either Jeb or someone/something working for Jeb.

Deaths. Ari... huh. Maybe? The bad guys don't always get what they deserve. I know plenty of stories in which the bad guy walks free. Fang? It pains me to say this, (being one of the above mentioned Fang Fanatic fangirls), but I do think Fang will die. It makes too much literary sense. As I've said before, authors kill off the people the main character depends on so to make the main character develop. (Just look at poor Harry, first his parents, then Sirius, then Dumbledore.) Also, if we are ever going to find out the true meaning of Max and Fang's relationship, it's probably only going to happen by the death bed of either Max or Fang. And I don't think JP's going to kill off Max.

Max 2 is defintely coming back. She definetly survived that explosion. And therefore we will she her again. I think she's either going to get killed, (by either Max, Fang, or Ari), or she's going to stick around with the flock, though I don't think that's likely.

As for the whole "is Itex running the lab" scandal. Either yes they are or nope, the goverment is funding the labs so if Itex tries to take over they'll have something to stop it. All these secret labs have to get there money from somewhere, so it's either going to be a HUGE corporation or the goverment. (Has anyone read Pandragon 7? There's a huge coporation trying to take over the world in that too. WTF?)

Well, I could type more, but I've got arthritis and this is killing my fingers, so toodles.

#13 Aug 02nd 2006, 8:36am

I'm still holding to the belief that Max 2 will die... but likely in a rather sympathetic manner. Perhaps she'll nobly sacrifice herself or something.

And I'm still holding to the hope that Fang will live. Sorry, I'm just a sucker for the happy endings.

The main reason that I believe that both Max the Second and Ari will die is that it's basically incompatible for them to exist and for Maximum to have a satisfying ending for her story. If Max 2 lives, she'll always be a challenge to Max's 'Maxness'. (That's a really poor way to explain it, but I'm not quite sure how to say it any differently.) If Ari lives, he'll never stop chasing Max, and Max will never have peace.

#14 Aug 02nd 2006, 2:17pm

Ok, this isn't so much as a prediction, but more of a "hope what will happen".

1. Fang will NOT die. (Heh, I love Fang...)

2. NONE of the Flock will die. (Too sad...)

3. Fang and Max will realize feelings for each other, without the help of a deathbed.

And now these are things that I actually think might happen:

1. Max II WILL die. Whether sacrificing herself or trying to kill Max, I don't know. But the white coats were right. There CAN'T be two Maxes. It's just...just not right.

2. Ari and Max will finally understand each other, and Ari will sacrifice himself for Max/the Flock. (Which will, of course, cause me to cry...)

#15 Aug 27th 2006, 5:03pm

Yeah. I hope Fang doesn't die, but it makes complete sense. *sigh* I will most likely cry, literally, if anyone dies, especially Fang. I usually cry when book characters are killed off. I'm really a paradoxical person. I can be really emotional and mushy or as emotionless as Fang. LOL. Have any of you read the blog recently. Ig posted "Pie=good. Homework=not pie." ROTFL.

#16 Sep 17th 2006, 2:04pm

I saw that! It's my new headline on myspace.

Pie = good. Homework = not pie.

That there is a classic. I LUV IT. Iggy cracks me up.

#17 Sep 17th 2006, 4:38pm

I think that there's gonna be Fax(it's kinda inevitable, like Hermione/Ron), and Ari's whole kidnapping idea will happen for a while. Ari loves Max enough that if she begs him hard enough(or throws in physical favors), he would let her go. Someone's gonna die, and I think it'll either be Ari or Max 2. Maybe both, maybe neither, maybe someone completely different. I dunno. It would kind of be sad, but I have this little fantasy going that he'll turn good at the last moment, and be dying, and get a nice little kiss from Max. That would make me happy. Then there could be Fax, and Angel/Total(Why not, I say? She's half bird, so technically she's an animal! Kinda sorta not really, but you know what I mean.), and I would die of pure joy with the book clutched in my hands. That's just me, though.

O.G.

#18 Oct 10th 2006, 5:42pm

Angel/Total!?

She's only 2 percent bird, not half, though.

Total might have a little human DNA, what with the intelligence and ability to speak. Still, I can't say I'm a fan of that particular pairing...

#19 Nov 07th 2006, 3:47pm

flymypretties

Maybe if Angel decides to try and take over from Max and fails, she might decide to do something that will make her a 'bad' character- then she might be what Max has to save the world from. And yes, I think Fang is probably going to die.

#20 Nov 11th 2006, 5:46pm

If Fang dies I'm burning the book. I think the voice will reveal himself as Fang (We don't know his power and its always telling Max that she knows she loves Fang) Just a thought! Maybye its Angel since a lot of her powers are like reading minds and contrlling peoples mind.

#21 Nov 14th 2006, 4:52pm

#22 Nov 14th 2006, 4:52pm

The Voice as Fang? Eh.. it would explain how he reads her easily and all that, but the things it says kind of draws me away from that idea.

Most Typical Voice ID: Jeb

Most Cool Voice ID: Max's Mom

What I Wish Voice ID: Hehe, I'm not telling that because it kills a third of the plot for the sequel to ALPCH.

#23 Nov 14th 2006, 5:23pm

I highly doubt the Voice is Fang, because he's seen Max with the Voice. I mean, that's like one of her only weaknesses. You know, he's always having to catch her when she falls, and she gets those bad headaches.

I doubt he would continue being the Voice in her head if it hurt her so much.

And what's the point if he was? Why would he need to be the mysterious Voice?

Yeah, it's probably either Jeb or Max's mom.

Yes, if Fang dies (NOO! *sniff*), let's have a bonfire and burn those books!

#24 Nov 14th 2006, 7:39pm

flymypretties

*GASP* Burning books! You can't burn Maximum Ride books, they're too interesting!

#25 Nov 14th 2006, 8:35pm

The only way I could see Fang as the Voice is if the Voice was originating from his sub-coincious (SP?) and therefore didn't know it was him. But I doubt JP would do that.

If I burned a book everytime one of my fav characters died, then my copies of Arty Fowl, Harry Pot, Pendragon, and practically all the series I own would be a pile of ashes. My fav characters always get killed. It's like the author plans it just to spite me. That's part of the reason why I think Fang will get knocked off.

#26 Nov 15th 2006, 2:08pm

But it would explain why Fans so quiet. he's to busy being the voice. I think it would be awesomeness. Maybe it's Angel because all her powers are having to do with other peoples minds. Just a thought

#27 Nov 16th 2006, 1:36pm

#28 Nov 16th 2006, 1:38pm

Well, it would explain it...

But I don't see how it would be awesome, cuz then he'd be hurting Max on purpose! :(

#29 Nov 16th 2006, 10:18pm

flymypretties

If Fangwas the voice knew how to get into the Institute in the first place, why didn't he just go there without all the hassle of showing Max how to do it? I personally think the voice is more likely to be connected with Jeb, because they both tell Max to save the world, and the voice only started talking to Max after she met Jeb again.

#30 Nov 17th 2006, 7:22pm

thanks alot guys just crush my dreams why don't you. jeez. Can't a girl hope. You just gotta bring realityt into this

#31 Nov 21st 2006, 4:53pm

One of the main reasons that I don't think the Voice and Jeb are one and the same is that their opinions sometimes seem to conflict.

For example, when Max is thinking about how she feels uneasy about remaining at Anne's house, the Voice remarks, "Maybe this is the time you'll stay and make it work." (Forgive me if I don't have the exact line, my memory is a bit rusty.)

However, Jeb clearly demonstrates his disapproval of Anne keeping the Flock at her house, because he does not want the Flock (Max especially) to become 'soft'.

My wild theory? The Voice is an AI which comes from the chip in Max's arm. However, the Voice has achieved sentience, rather against its creators' wishes. Because of its original programming to aid Max, it 'loves' her and sincerely wants to help her.

Crazy, I know. But still, it could happen.

#32 Nov 22nd 2006, 12:18am

Yeah I forgot about that.

That the Voice's opinion conflicts with Jeb's sometimes...

Hmm...

#33 Nov 26th 2006, 9:04pm

That would make sense, I guess. Like, the Voice was put there by the scientists to aid her, but it developed a "free will" and decided to help her against their wishes.

O.G.

#34 Nov 27th 2006, 7:41am

As long as we're on the topic of the Voice, I've got a little theory that no one here has suggested so I'll put it.

Might the Voice be Anne?

#35 Nov 27th 2006, 12:51pm

It's weird, but I think that the Voice could definitely be Anne. Was I the only one who saw Jeb and Anne and thought for a moment that they might be married, and Ari(Maybe Max) be their child/ren? Max has brown eyes and blonde hair, but Jeb has brown hair and brown eyes, which Ari has. I'm pretty sure that Jeb is Max's biological father, so wouldn't the mother have to be blonde? I think someone wrote a fic where that happened(And if you read this, and you're the author, it's a great story!)

O.G.

#36 Nov 27th 2006, 5:49pm

I have an announcement.

YOU ARE ALL WRONG.

The Voice.............. *drum roll*

......

...... is TOTAL!

*sticks out tongue, runs away*

No, I really don't know. JP is not one to be too predictable, and Jeb is, well, predictable. Can't be Ari... Anne could be a possibility, though. (btw, Supergirrl, I'm almost CERTAIN Max has blue eyes...) And of course, we could be debating over a currently unknown person. (Like Myrah's ISAAC... who is he? Better update soon, girl.)

I like the Fang idea, but it's not really plausible. Angel too. I think she's too young (she's SIX, for Pete's sake!) to be so philosophical. But I agree with the challenge theory.

So yeah....

BTW, I will update my stories soon! *burst of applause from me* Even though no one reads them. :P Oh well. I like them. *silly grin*

Twizzlers,

Illa

#37 Nov 28th 2006, 5:53am

Yeah, it's Total. Total knows all.

I thought that Ari says that Max has dark eyes. You know, in the third chapter of SOF. It's right after he decides he says he wants to see "the life drain out of her beautiful brown eyes". Photographic memory, that's me.

I think the Voice is either Anne or some unknown person. Probably not Jeb, or Angel, or Fang.

Am I the only one who can't upload documents? Or is it everyone?

O.G.

#38 Nov 28th 2006, 7:55am

Oooooooo I luv the Total idea. Yeah it's so Total

#39 Nov 30th 2006, 1:44pm

Heehee. I like my idea. :P *blushes* Yeah, I just read her eyes are brown... sorry...

Darn it. I have blue eyes. *pouts*

Does anyone seriously think Ig will regain his sight? I know alot of fanfics have that line of thought in them........

#40 Dec 01st 2006, 5:32pm

No. Just flat out no. I really really dislike it when Iggy gets his sight back. Not that I'm all for him being blind or anything like that. It's just... well I have a theory, but I can't speak of it. (Coughcough, part of my sequel). But I really don't think Ig's getting his sight back anytime soon.

#41 Dec 01st 2006, 5:36pm

*glares at Myrah* Ahem. About your sequel... get it up flippin' SOON or quit making obscure references!!!!!!!! I guess you're just marketing, like any good author....

Anyways, I visited the blog today to look at (read: drool over) the next cover and nearly popped out of my skin. At the top of the cover, over the wing, are silouettes (sp?) of people. The first person is Max, obviously. There is ONE MORE BIG PERSON AND THREE LITTLE PEOPLE.

Five people. Not six, five. One of the big people is missing.

Does everyone understand the implications of this?

On the count of three:

One...

Two...

Three...

NOoOoOoOoOoO! ! ! ! !

*falls to knees, begging*

JP..... please.... I beg of you... don't kill Fang... *sobs* no... Fang... no...

*sniffles*

#42 Dec 03rd 2006, 3:08pm

I'm going to repeat my theory of book covers:

They don't mean a cotton-picking thing.

Other than that you can tell I'm from the south by my adjective choice, you should probably realize the fact is essentially true for every book other than Abarat, and that's only because the author also drew the cover. My most favorite example of incongruity is the cover of The Blue Sword by Robin McKinley. The cover is beautiful; the scene on it never takes place.

#43 Dec 03rd 2006, 3:14pm

If I may paraphrase Max herself:

Cold hard logic is really annoying when you've got a good fit going.

Harumph.

#44 Dec 03rd 2006, 3:31pm

Probably, someone just forgot to add an extra figure. Or they're killing someone. In which case, Patterson heads shall roll.

O.G.

#45 Dec 03rd 2006, 3:57pm

By the way, in case someone didn't notice, the figures are different sizes because of PERSPECTIVE. If one of them goes rogue, I'm guessing Angel, not Fang, will leave/die--the former only for the former former, both for the former latter.

#46 Dec 03rd 2006, 6:27pm

That's it. I need a link. Now. Please?

O.G.

#47 Dec 03rd 2006, 6:32pm

"*glares at Myrah* Ahem. About your sequel... get it up flippin' SOON or quit making obscure references!!!!!!!! I guess you're just marketing, like any good author...."

Hehe. Yeah, I am marketing. But I'm also really trying hard to keep my mouth shut about some of the plotlines and it's soooo hard because I just want to SCREAM them...

About the cover. I think the whole "five people on each cover" thing does have implications- that they're either killing someone off, or someone is leaving. The person leaving would most likely be Angel. Person dying is most likely Fang.

Or maybe the covers don't mean a "cotten picking thing" as Quill and Saber so nicely put in. Sweet saying, by the way.

Link: http://www.maximumride.blogspot.com (Copy and paste)

Fang's blog has the cover off to the side on it... I think...

#48 Dec 04th 2006, 4:37pm