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Ah yes. I agree completely but not enough time...

#2 Jun 30th 2006, 6:59am

Ah...the prequels...Anakin. Obi-wan (who is not Ben no matter what Luke says)...clearly superior in all ways. For instance, one can actually believe the Jedi could fight. The Sith too. In the original trilogy...not so much.

#3 Jul 06th 2006, 4:14pm

What? You don;t think barley movie and flicking at each other with flash lights is fighting? Good....cause neither do I...

#4 Jul 08th 2006, 5:33am

Sadly, most fans seem to think it more than qualifies...

#5 Aug 08th 2006, 6:16pm

LOL Yes, well, it was cutting edge technology for the times. Remember, Lucas had to have most of the technology used to make these films invented! Us old timers remember what movies were like before the original trilogy and believe me, you wouldn't be impressed. The great thing about the original trilogy was that while the effects were, for that time, mind-blowing, they were not the entire purpose of the movie! Lucas used the technology to tell a story. Too often these days, lame plots are used as an excuse to show off the latest techno-gizmos. Don't get me wrong. I love the prequel trilogy! Lucas did a wonderful job on them, too! But, we wouldn't have the prequels without the original. Plus, the prequel ending would be too depressing if it all just ended there.

#6 Aug 24th 2006, 8:57pm

But it was not just the technology that I have a problem with, Its the light sabor fights. The last fight with Vader and Obiwan (NOT Ben) is pathetic! It was like, *glare* *swing glowing sticks around* *glare* *swing glowy sticks around* *lose focus too look at Luke* *hit Obiwan in the side* *disappear* *muhahaha*

In Revenge of the SIth, the fight between Anikan and Obiwan was AWESOME!

The in The Return of the Jedi, Vader,one of the greatest Jedi EVER, becomes very very weak when fighting LUke who knew NOTHING about being a Jedi.

#7 Aug 25th 2006, 11:25am

Yes, it was really sad to see the decay of the remainder of the Jedi order in the original trilogy. But believe you, I do know how you "old timers" feel about the how amazing the technology Lucas created was. My dad deeply enjoys saying how before it was mostly all westerns on tv and it was "riding into the sunset...more riding into the sunset..and look! more riding into the sunset."

I didn't really like the ending to the sixth movie, myself. I thought it was very corny and really undermined the drama of the rest of the series...

#8 Aug 25th 2006, 11:47am

Well, yes, the fight scenes were definitely more spectacular in the prequel trilogy, SpellsoftheVeil. But, in A New Hope the fight was taking place between a 55 year old and a 63 year old (the actors, not the characters)...as opposed to two men in their late twenties and early thirties! I don't think the technology existed then to show someone else doing the fighting, except with stunt doubles. Plus I think the swinging around would have made it hard to add the effect for the lightsabers! I guess what I'm asking is for a little kindness and understanding for what we see today as flaws. They did great things with what little was available! Too, I think at first Lucas saw both Vader and Obi-wan as being older than they actually turned out to be!

Remo Con, how would you have liked the movies to end, taking all six into account? I personally love the ending and didn't find it at all corny. The only way to improve on it, IMHO, would have been for either A) Anakin to have lived and been united with his children, or B) for them to have shown him being reunited with Padme in the Force. However, I am a romantic and an optimist, so that might just be me! :)

#9 Aug 25th 2006, 12:08pm

Personaly I like more dramatic endings. ROmantic is good two though. As long as its not too cheesy.

And the story does not end with the movies. If your like Remo, you have read all teh books and knows what happens afterwords. From what I've heard, its not good.

#10 Aug 25th 2006, 1:44pm

I used to read all of the books, before the prequel trilogy came out, but now I don't. I think the last books I read were the Han Solo trilogy by A.C. Crispin. The problem with the books is they don't follow the canon that was established in the prequel trilogy. For instance, in Timothy Zahn's trilogy that takes place only five years after RotJ, Leia discovers that a planet was damaged by a battle forty four years ago and concludes that the planet was damaged during the Clone Wars! Now, in the canon established by the movies, the Clone Wars would have began only about thirty five years earlier! This is just one small example of the problems with the books. IMHO, if it didn't happen on the silver screen, it's an alternate universe...entertaining, but not canon. (My sources for this are Starwars.com and Timothy Zahn's Heirs to the Empire.)

#11 Aug 25th 2006, 2:15pm

Oops. I made a mistake. It was thirty one years from the very beginning of the Clone Wars to the start of the Zahn trilogy.

#12 Aug 25th 2006, 2:25pm

I haven't read the books yet so this all rambling to me.

#13 Aug 25th 2006, 3:03pm

Don't worry about it. I think we got off topic. We were discussing the end of the movies. Were you happy with the way RotJ ended or would you have liked something else?

#14 Aug 25th 2006, 4:05pm

Spells, you're confused. I've only read finished two books set after the end of the movies. The Boba Fett ones- and you're right, Psi Fi, all the older books do contradict the canon set by the prequel. But I love Boba, so I still read his trilogy nevertheless. I read all the books written post prequel trilogy. So I have all the clone wars books to date.

Anyway, I felt that the ending party with all the dancing Ewoks was a little...cheesy. Corny. I don't really know, it just wasn't a satisfying ending. I would have prefered some heartfelt scene between Luke and Leia (possibly with Han thrown in too), saying how in the end Anakin was reedeemed and now the future was looking brighter. Or something minus the dancing Ewoks. That just killed me.

#15 Aug 25th 2006, 5:06pm

Actually, you know what would have been a really amazing ending? Is everyone from the prequel trilogy greeting Anakin in the force.

But, I suppose that would have been rather stupid at the time, since it wouldn't have made any sense since the backstory was missing.

#16 Aug 25th 2006, 5:09pm

Actually, I like those ideas. They could do the touching scene with Luke, Leia, and Han, then Luke could move aside a bit, see the Force spirits, then show the Force spirits moving away and Anakin being reunited with Padme! That would have been cool. I know a lot of fans, even from my generation, didn't like the Ewoks. I did like the victory music that played in the original edition. I guess Lucas just figured after a big victory like that a big party would follow.

#17 Aug 25th 2006, 5:13pm

Ewoks...they always made me laugh. It seemed to me that they sould have done better than that. A touching scene would have been nice. Luke and Leia didn;t have enough time to celebrate the fact that they were long-lost siblings. ANd there was not enough touching stuff between Han and Leia. Anikan being united with Padme would have been awesome but I suppose since they didn;t even have a name for her in the origonal trilogy it would not have worked...

#18 Aug 25th 2006, 5:43pm

They could film one now. In the last dvd release, they replaced Sebastian Shaw with Hayden Christensen in the last scene showing Anakin, Obi-wan, and Yoda. Of course, a lot of fans would throw a fit, if he did that, but oh, well.

#19 Aug 25th 2006, 6:03pm

Ah but not all fans would be angry. They should do it. Especially if they had Qui-gon Jin into the mix...

#20 Aug 25th 2006, 6:05pm

I think it would be cool, but I'm not going to get my hopes up for it.

#21 Aug 25th 2006, 6:14pm

Well, since Lucas even changed his mind about the other three movies he was going to do, there's pretty much no hope that he'd even consider filming a new ending.

#22 Aug 26th 2006, 12:29pm

Oh, I wouldn't give up all hope of a sequel trilogy. Lucas swore up and down when RotJ first came out that he was done making Star Wars movies. I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually did the sequels.

#23 Aug 26th 2006, 3:46pm

But that still leaves the ever present question of what the next three movies would be about.

#24 Aug 26th 2006, 5:18pm

Because of the order he did them in he can't go back and he can't go forward. He's stuck.

#25 Aug 28th 2006, 5:58am

No, I think the box he placed himself in really lies in that he said the movies, were in truth, really Anakin's story. And he killed him off at the end of six, and nothing important happened in the nine years prior to the first movie.

#26 Aug 28th 2006, 9:22am

I admit, it wouldn't be easy. But, the guy is brilliant! I'm sure Lucas can come up with something!

#27 Aug 28th 2006, 9:24am

The main character is this time Luke's son (and dear lord if he actually names him Ben I am going to cry) and he maintain that this is still Anakin's series by having the dear Chosen One guide Ben through life, and how not to make bad choices.

#28 Aug 28th 2006, 9:52am

LOL Don't cry! Where did you hear that? I had never heard that before. Actually, I like that idea! One of the things I didn't like about the books was the Force spirits went away. I like the idea of Grandpa Anakin guiding Luke and his young son.

#29 Aug 28th 2006, 10:18am

I forget which it was of the EU (is that right?) books, but somewhere down the line post Return of the Jedi in the novels he and Mara Jade have a son and name him Ben. Because apparantly it's hard to remember that there was, in actuality, no one really named Ben. *sighs*

#30 Aug 28th 2006, 2:56pm

Sorry, I'm being really confusing and I don't mean to be. I knew Luke had a son named Ben in the later books, though I've never read those. I think Luke always thought of Obi-wan as Ben, 'cause that's the name he went by. I meant I had never heard the plot you outlined for the following stories after RotJ. Those sounded really cool!

#31 Aug 29th 2006, 8:43am

Oh, sorry. I'm easily confused, I'm afraid. *coughs quietly* But I'd never heard that plotline either. I came up with it on the spot while I was typing. *laughs*

#32 Aug 29th 2006, 6:09pm

LOL OH! Well, I like it! You could always write that up as a fanfic!

#33 Aug 30th 2006, 9:49am

*grins* I could, but that'd just end up being yet another fic I haven't (should've) finished...

#34 Aug 30th 2006, 11:46am

LOL I know how that goes! Well, you could drop if off at the plot bunny adoption thread!

#35 Aug 31st 2006, 9:58am

I might do that. Who knows? Maybe a good, motivated author would even adopt it.

#36 Aug 31st 2006, 11:57am

Sweet! I hope so! That would be such a neat story.

#37 Aug 31st 2006, 9:11pm

Kewlness! I hope so!

#38 Aug 31st 2006, 9:22pm

Ooops Sorry for the double post! I meant to be replying in a different thread! LOL I'm asleep.

#39 Aug 31st 2006, 9:23pm

Double post away, I don't mind. Besides, you're not the only one sleeping their way through posts. *grins*

#40 Sep 01st 2006, 11:28am

Thank goodness! :) It's nice to know sleep-posting is normal.

Another thing I would like to see in a sequel trilogy is Hayden Christensen! I truly believe that Anakin's ghost would be continually popping up to advise or even tease his children. He definitely would let them know about their mother! So, that would be cool to see and would also help further tie the trilogies together.

#41 Sep 01st 2006, 11:46am

But the only way that would work is if they did the next movies right now. Because it'd be hard to explain away as to why force-ghosts were aging.

#42 Sep 01st 2006, 5:26pm

Ahhhh, that's true. I hadn't considered that. ::sighs:: Well. All the more reason for them to get started! LOL

#43 Sep 01st 2006, 6:03pm

Well, maybe if fans send Lucas enough letters, asking for him to...

#44 Sep 01st 2006, 6:29pm

That would be kewl. Hopefully the continuing interest in the franchise will change his mind.

#45 Sep 04th 2006, 9:39am

*grins* We'll wear him down eventually.

#46 Sep 04th 2006, 6:44pm

LOL We could always try an online petition. I signed one yesterday to get Night of the Comet released on dvd.

#47 Sep 06th 2006, 10:53am

Hmm...perhaps we should try that. Now has anyone started on yet?

#48 Sep 06th 2006, 11:46am

Yep, there is one! It's here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/thxjedi1/petition.html

YAY! Now all we have to do is encourage everyone to sign!

#49 Sep 06th 2006, 12:04pm