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karehiroTopic: O.O.C Sasuke in Fanfiction I've noticed that there seems to be alot of out of character Sasukes when people write their fanfiction. Usually this happens in romance fanfiction, though it can be even more prevalent in humor/parody fics (of course), and even in other genres. This happens sometimes if the author does not like the character of Sasuke much, so they make him even more out of character (usually in the negative sense), and also when the author introduces an OC into the story that's a Mary Sue (which always makes everyone OOC.) However most times, I have a feeling it's because it's convenient for the author to make Sasuke OOC in order to tell the story better.. usually this is for romance. Now the question is what do you feel about prevalent OOC Sasuke in the stories around here? Do you think there's such a thing as a "good" OOC Sasuke that can make a good story? Or do you think whenever Sasuke acts OOC that it's bad? Those who have experience in writing Naruto fanfiction, what do you feel about it? Those who are avid readers, do you usually find yourself liking stories with an OOC Sasuke or an IC Sasuke? Discuss everything about OOC Sasuke and IC Sasuke topics here. Note: OOC-Out Of Character IC-In Character |
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Gensomaden-SaiyukiI've read some stories which makes Sasuke OOC in a good sense but some writers, just made me whine in disgust because they made his OOC-ness quite uhm, quite wrong.Sasuke, OOC in a good way: 1. Does things he would usually never do but only to a coerced extent, no more, no less. Then, he would be muttering things under his breath hating what he's actually doing but later on he feels that doing this is right. 2. Tries to "impress" some pipz. He doesn't try to impress anyone in the series, BUT he is impressive. Although making him show off... Now that will crack you some air, right? 3. Being a teeny weeny bit kind. Not too much. Too much kind Sasuke will make me whine in disgust. It's just that it's not him to be too kind. He can be worried, anxious, a bit dramatic, that's okay for me but if I see him in a fanfiction offering cookies to Sakura... that, now that... *pukes* I'm a SasuSaku fan but that, that scene? Oh please, don't do that. 4. Becomes concerned. Sakura quits on him and then he misses her. He becomes concerned of what he has done. NO! Not being concerned like this: Sasuke asks Sakura if she has eaten yet. She says no. Sasuke then grabs her by the wrist and brings her to a food stand and buys her food. He would then tell her to open her mouth as he makes the food enter her mouth. Dear Lord! She has hands! She can eat by herself! T_T" Sasuke, OOC in a bad way: 1. Too much "happy" sides. Sasuke laughing at some idiot who tripped over a pebble. That's lame and pathetic. 2. Suddenly shifts personalities. Don't make him cruel a minute ago and now happy-go-lucky. That's pointless... 3. Saying too much positive things on already positive moments. It was a bright sunny day and Sasuke would say something ridiculously positive... It sounds redundant and hilariously wrong. Now, there are more things I like and hate about Sasuke's OOC-ness with regards to fanfics. These are only what I like most and hate most. I sure do hope I didn't offend anyone. If I did, gomenasai. Everyone's just entitled to their opinions... ~_~ Peace out!!! ::Releina Artemis:: |
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sonantI've read some stories which makes Sasuke OOC in a good sense but some writers, just made me whine in disgust because they made his OOC-ness quite uhm, quite wrong.That's correct! Sasuke, OOC in a bad way:1. Too much "happy" sides. Sasuke laughing at some idiot who tripped over a pebble. That's lame and pathetic. 2. Suddenly shifts personalities. Don't make him cruel a minute ago and now happy-go-lucky. That's pointless... 3. Saying too much positive things on already positive moments. It was a bright sunny day and Sasuke would say something ridiculously positive... It sounds redundant and hilariously wrong. I definitely agree with this! I like authors who make an effort to write Sasuke IC. They the fanfic more realistic and readable! | #3 Dec 20th 2005, 2:09am . Edited Dec 20th 2005, 2:13am | |
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shir0-chanWell for AU fic I find it that most writters find it hard to keep Sasuke in characters, he would be right one minute then wrong the next. But I think the main source for that reason is because everyone pictures Sasuke as the 'human ice cube' in the anime, there isnt much of his personality shown other then his competitive side, stubborn and revenge complex side, that's all I know of at the momment about Sasuke. Even though I read most of the manga series and seen most of the anime there is still not that much on him, there are very few writters who gets his character right and its not easy. Writters on fanfiction viewed Sasuke as the 'human ice cube' since he is cold, but I have to say, there is time in the anime that Sasuke is 'normal', he is as evil minded as NAruto and Sakura. For example episode 101 where he got tempted to join his teammates to reveal Kakashi's face, that is the normal Sasuke without the revenge comples desease. So I have to conclude that Sasuke is not an easy character to keep in most fics, especialy in romance, he is nothing of the romantic type. He does not belong in that category, so you cant really blame Sasuke for being OOC in most fics since fanfiction is mainly aimed at the romance side. But there is one word to describe Sasuke....sadistic, one minute he is all normal the next he turned into revenge complex boy. Anyways, its fanfictions, some OOCness is not that bad. Most people write fanfics because sometime they're sick of a certain character's personality. I dont really mind Sasuke OOCness as long as the writter have a good control of their character's personalities. |
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Gensomaden-SaiyukiWell for AU fic I find it that most writters find it hard to keep Sasuke in characters, he would be right one minute then wrong the next. But I think the main source for that reason is because everyone pictures Sasuke as the 'human ice cube' in the anime, there isnt much of his personality shown other then his competitive side, stubborn and revenge complex side, that's all I know of at the momment about Sasuke. Even though I read most of the manga series and seen most of the anime there is still not that much on him, there are very few writters who gets his character right and its not easy.I have to agree with that. I mean, we can't help it if there are some writers who are not very down-to-every-detail-keen with the anime, so they tend to move it into AU. So that's when Sasuke goes OOC. And sometimes, this OOC-ness, can go wrong and can go right. So I have to conclude that Sasuke is not an easy character to keep in most fics, especialy in romance, he is nothing of the romantic type. He does not belong in that category, so you cant really blame Sasuke for being OOC in most fics since fanfiction is mainly aimed at the romance side. But there is one word to describe Sasuke....sadistic, one minute he is all normal the next he turned into revenge complex boy. For a SasuSaku writer like myself, yes, it's true that we have to make Sasuke OOC sometimes. BUT not too much. I'm not a person who would make Sasuke bake and offer cookies to Sakura (O_O Holy crap! That's so... Eewww.... Just thought of it makes me... Augh... *vomits*). Anyway, he's not the romantic type but that dark aura surrounding him is just so enticing that sometimes, we'll have torment the partner (Sakura, or whoever he is paired with) just to get the little OOC-ness right! ^-^" Anyways, its fanfictions, some OOCness is not that bad. Most people write fanfics because sometime they're sick of a certain character's personality. I dont really mind Sasuke OOCness as long as the writter have a good control of their character's personalities. Damn, that is sooooooo right. *thumbs up* ::Releina Artemis:: |
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efteeI agree with everyone. It's difficult to keep Sasuke in-character. *scratches head* I'm working on my first Naruto fanfic ever, and I just realized how difficult it really is... It's like I'd rather keep him quiet and in the background so at least he can still be in character _*coughs* And yeah, I come across fanfics where Sasuke's all smiley. A smirk here and there is fine, but SMILING all the time is just plain wrong. Not even in episode 101 did he smile a lot...not really, anyway (101 was my favorite episode, btw. Loveitloveitloveitloveit. No matter how pointless it was it still showed another side of Sasuke and it was positively hilarious). But I can't blame other authors for making Sasuke a little ooc... but it's usually not noticeable, and the situations in the fic I've read demanded that Sasuke be as they portrayed him (and in the ones I've read, it's all very well done). | #6 Dec 28th 2005, 10:49pm | |
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RoseLavenderRoseSome OOC of Sasuke is okay, although, like what others have said, sometimes too much OOC is a bit, too weird for a character like Sasuke. Sasuke's my FAVORITE character from Naruto (besides Neji and Haku) XD He's soo hot! But some OOC fics just makes him really weird. |
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Jounin-StalkerHey guys, I'm a new naruto writer. (not a new fanfiction writer) I made a new account so people in my other genres of stories would email me up the wazoo for making another story and not updating the one I was working on. So I'm pretty much undercover here. (shhh! don't tell anyone!)I working on fic where sasuke is 8, and I try my best to keep him in IC. Though I'm not sure if he might be a bit different if he were surrounded by different people. like Kakashi is his mysterious guardian here in my story (I wish i could find more stories like this!). What are your thoughts on this? Do you think sasuke would grow up differently with kakshi? Do you thin sasuke acted a little less cold as an eight year old? I'm not sure. Input would be nice! :P |
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Red HillWell, there are loads of fanfictions out there with Sasuke being OOC, but that he's OOC doesn't always necessarily mean that it's wrong. Nartuto, Sasuke and Sakura (and other characters of course) are round characters in the series, which means they develop. That doesn't mean that Sasuke from one day on another will decide that he forgives his brother and marry some random girl. That's a bit overdone. As I was saying, those guys are round characters, and in most fics, they are too. (At least, in most fics I've read. I mainly read SasuNaru or NaruSasu, and if I like the summary I may read 'canon' stuff.) I wouldn't mind if Sasuke had some kind of change of heart after 25 chapters of dialogue and action and romance and other stuff, as long as it's built up. Most authors forget it takes a lot of time for someone to really change. And that's the clue of round characters. You've seen yourself that, after the timeskip, they all have matured. They realise their responsibilities more than before. And that's what makes a story real. |
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Madam ChikaI totally agree that you have to make Sasuke a bit OOC.BUT I HATE it when people really out of character, the reason why Ilove him is because of his character and great background. For example in one fic I read that Sasuke was made to wear a t-shirt with pikachu on it! Now there is no way in hell Sasuke would wear a pikachu shirt whether Sakura really wanted him too or not! I do think you can do a IC romance fic with Sasuke you just have to know Sasuke character really well, and not get all soppy and lovey-dovey, because regardless if Sasukes in love with the other character or not he would NEVER act sappy. And still be withdrawn and cold but maybe a little more open with his wife but not to much. I think he would be very protective of her as well, he's the sort of character I would think would not like other men eyeing up his girl. Sasuke's eventually gonna end up with someone coz its one of his goals to repopulate his clan. Back to the point though I do think theres good OOC Sasukes stories out there it just ordipends what the stories about. If its a ninja story to the plot of Naruto then I don't really like Sasuke OOC that much. If its not a ninja story then I'm a lot more lenient because 9 times out of 10 the Uchiha massica hasn't happened. | #10 Jun 27th 2006, 11:48am | |
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virtualaileeThe thing is, if people want to read IC Sasuke fictions, the only things they'll get are angst, suppressed anger, wrath, etc. He's the screwed up kid who refuses help and all bent for revenge. He doesn't even respect Kakashi! I don't think he's the kind of well-mannered child but still, he might just be good deep down (really deep down...). It's good to know that he doesn't want to kill unnecessary people but it's definitely not good to know that he's all out for murdering Naruto.He's kind of mad for a 15-year-old. | #11 Jul 03rd 2007, 5:04am | |
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ThReE gIrLs WiTh PoCkYtotally out of the blue question ... and it makes me sound stupid ... but what does teme and dobe mean?| #12 Sep 10th 2007, 3:49pm | |
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virtualaileeDobe, no idea. Teme is "bastard".| #13 Sep 11th 2007, 1:19am | |
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Red HillDobe is usually translated as deadlast (at least in the subs), but people often interpret it as loser as well, so... Yeah.Teme isn't really a word, it's just a really rude way of saying you. Bastard might come close, as people use it a lot, but I'm not too sure about that. | #14 Sep 11th 2007, 7:46am | |
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YumiTheDragonGirlDobe, in my opinion, means something like idiot. Teme is kinda like bastard.| #15 Oct 18th 2007, 5:58pm | |
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ThReE gIrLs WiTh PoCkYthanks you guys are so helpful! ... if you could recreate sasuke ... what would he be like ... i think that i would keep him the same ... but i wouldn't let him run off with orochimaru ... the akatsuki maybe ... but never orochimaru!| #16 Oct 18th 2007, 6:08pm | |
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Sapphire SnowflakeI've read a lot (and I really mean a lot) of fanfics out there where Sasuke's OOC. For me it's okay (tolerable, I guess) just as long as he doesn't turn too mushy and all that he could actually compete with Lee in being a romantic guy (*vomits*) and he doesn't act stupid. I don't really like that kind of Sasuke. It makes me cringe.I don't know. I think it really suits Sasuke to be all cold and broody blah blah but I think, the reason why there are so many OOC Sasukes is because it is REALLY hard to write a romance story wherein Sasuke is not OOC. So I understand them. Sasuke becomes OOC in some of my fics too. The PRos of OOC Sasuke: 1. Easier to write. 2. The story is much more romantic. Makes us swoon and giggle and all (You know, the fan girl stuff). 3. Makes him more cute and lovable. The CONs of OOC Sasuke 1. He sometimes becomes a totally different person. 2. One will wonder if it is really Sasuke that's in the fic. 3. *Cringe* Yeah, some of us do not accept totally OOC characters. I've already seen a fanfic where Sasuke is really IC. I swear! It really is wonderful. The author is amazing to do that. But the ending gives satisfaction to all the readers since Sasuke's personality developed well thru the chapters. | #17 Nov 19th 2007, 7:41am | |
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ThReE gIrLs WiTh PoCkYIC sasuke has only been perfected once every full moon in romance ... it is okay to make him slightly out of character ... like buying presents or small smiles occasionally ... but that is is romantic as i could see him getting| #18 Nov 19th 2007, 9:09pm | |
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In Darkness Is LightOOC Sasuke is obviously easier to write and you usually see it most -though not just- SasuSaku fics. If the writer isn't particularly skilled/has an idea of what they want to write, then they will probably make Sasuke OOC to feel proud that they've written a piece of fanfiction with him and another person. They may also do it to feed their inner-fan. I personally can't stand OOC Sasuke at all. If he is out of character, I will either immediately press the back button on my computer or leave a detailed review on my opinions (but not a flame). I will admit though, that when writing romance fics with Sasuke, it is very hard to keep him in character (especially now that we're in Shippuuden). I think people use AU fics to kind of excuse their OOC portrayl of him. Personally though, for a fic to go on my favourites list/good fics list, he definitely needs to be in character. I mainly read SasuSaku and I can't stand it when in the first three paragraphs or first chapter, Sasuke and Sakura are already all over each other. | #19 Dec 05th 2007, 5:04pm | |
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In Darkness Is LightThen again, you could argue what is in character for Sasuke? I think it's safe to say that he did at least care about Sakura and Naruto enough to call them friends. So smiles obviously aren't completely out of the question and if you try to create a romance fic with him not smiling or showing any displays of affection, then it's going to be taken as a one-sided romance. He's more the type of person -IMO- that would more or less show his appreciation of friendships by protecting his friends during battles and stuff like that. He's definitely not one to broadcast to the entire world that he's friends/was friends with Sakura. I can actually see him getting them gifts (pre-Shippuuden of course) for birthdays or something. In the end, it's very hard to say waht would be in character for him when he hasn't really shown much of his character, if that makes sense. Does anyone get what I mean? | #20 Dec 05th 2007, 5:08pm | |
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ThReE gIrLs WiTh PoCkYi understand ... i've been reading another series lately ... called 'Dazzle' ... it has a very sasuke like character - minus the sharingan - who whishes to avenge his fathers death of awoman he doesn't know the know the name of (because he doesn't believe that names are important, that they are just pnuemonic [sp?] devices used to remember people) all he know is that she has long black hair a blue eyes, which coincidentally is like a discription of the heroine of the story ... anyways it is clear by the way he acts that he cares about the girl and i can easily see an in character romance written for them ... it kind of makes me sad that i can't as easily see a romantic fic with sasuke (unless he is just doing it to monopolize something) ... sorry about the randomness ...| #21 Jan 03rd 2008, 10:44am | |
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topThe trouble with Sasuke is he changes a lot. Before the massacre he strikes me as fairly normal. He's a bit on the shy side and has a rivalry with his brother but it's nothing out of the ordinary. After the massacre he simply is obsessed with revenge. When he joined team seven he eventually thinks of Naruto and Sakura as friends, quite possibly his first. Then he sees his brother again and watches his family killed again and again. This leads to his defection which is pretty much like burning your bridges.I think it's the timing of the story that defined his character. | #22 Jan 26th 2008, 7:50am | |
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ThReE gIrLs WiTh PoCkYi really don't like him right now ... he is a real pain to everyone around him .... when i started i was a total fan of his ... now i think that he is the biggest jerk ever ... still ... i would have done the same thing with his character .. i wonder if he will change again| #23 Feb 07th 2008, 6:37pm | |
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AeroRCTI would say that there is an acceptable range of characterization, since not everyone will interpret how a character would act in the same way. Having said that, the problem lies in an agreement on how broad that range is.But I'm of the opinion that if its OOC to the point that you notice, it's never a good thing, whether its making Sasuke more evil/mean or nicer/caring. I'll admit that I haven't been in fandom long, but here are some takes I've seen: 1) Sasuke is 100x meaner. This is usually done by Sasuke-bashers who take it to such an extreme that other series villains look nice by comparison. 2) Sasuke falls in love unusually fast. It could be with Sakura, Naruto, or a Mary-sue. I've him start to develop feelings within a few chapters before. It feels rushed, out of character, unrealistic, sloppy, *insert many other words here* 3) Sasuke is suddenly Mr. Nice Guy. I haven't seen this one too often, but it does exist. For example, a fic set around when Team 7 is first formed might do this. 4) Sasuke is back in Konoha and he returned willingly. Some might disagree with me on this, but Sasuke left because he thought that village was too weak to help him. I think he has too much pride to turn his back on/renounce his loyalty to Konoha and then come back later (not to mention the idea of him returning unpunished being a bit silly) These are just my opinions, mind you. | #24 Mar 12th 2008, 8:13pm | |
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ThReE gIrLs WiTh PoCkYthose are all cliche' things ... if it is done with a certain art then i am fine, but if they just do it to solve the whole 'how do we get him back to the village problem' or 'how to make him fall in love' then i don't like it much ... i do admit, when i'm mad i end up bashing sasuke ... but really if he was given a heaping plate of humility ... i would like him again ... he just wouldn't be my fav character| #25 Mar 12th 2008, 8:19pm | |
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sleepy sheepiePeople get way too excited about writing sasuke fanfiction and contort it (hopefully) unmeaningly and then sasuke isn't even the same. I hate that sasuke that suddenly realizes he's in love with another character, for example, sakura. It's like one day he just wakes up out of the blue and realizes the error of his ways and then does all of this mushy crap for her. It makes me want to hurl. Please people, if you're going to write sasuke into your fanfiction then give him some semblance of his normal mannerisms.| #26 Mar 19th 2008, 5:46pm | |
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ThReE gIrLs WiTh PoCkYyes ... that would be nice ...| #27 Mar 19th 2008, 6:12pm | |
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darkskysongI seem to have a like/hate relationship with OOC Sasukes. OOC does make me cringe easily and it really depends on how skilled the author is to whether I would continue past the first couple of chapters. I backspace out of a fic really fast when it is really bad. I almost can't stand any female with Sasuke in romance (even when he's mostly IC), because though rebuilding the clan is a goal in canon, Sasuke seems no way inclined to think like that about women and it's very doubtful he'd start to even after his revenge is complete. AU fics I have a little more leniency. I'm a Sasuke-centric writer so I do understand how getting Sasuke's characterisation could be frustrating to some people. But OOCness seems to come about by staring at the entire package and writing to a stereotype rather than actually looking at his unique behaviour. As someone said before Sasuke is not a 'human ice cube' like some people like to think. Honestly I find just studying the smaller eccentricities of Sasuke's personality and understanding his reactions to certain types of situations and adapting, can keep him in line fairly well. After all it is still his mannerisms, just in a different setting. In my opinion Sasuke (and Naruto) is one of the easier characters to write IC because he has a lot of backstory and air-time, so when I see him really OOC I think those stories have lazy writers and not worth my reading time. | #28 Dec 28th 2008, 7:51pm . Edited Dec 28th 2008, 7:53pm | |
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Leiceku@ darkskysong - I agree. If you've paid close attention to Sasuke in canon, then it's fairly easy to keep him IC; the massive amount of OOC Sasuke fanfiction is sad, really. |
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