Weir or Teyla ? - SheppardWeir, ShWeir, Sparky Forum

Topic: Weir or Teyla ?

Obviously, i think John and Elizabeth are perfect for each other, but theres that nagging question at the back of my head.

What if the writers decide Teyla is right for him??

I was just wondering what everyone else thinks?

Panndi

#1 Feb 11th 2006, 6:32am

Astrantia

Well, I'd be a little miffed at first. It's just the way I am- if I'm expecting something to happen and it doesn't, I get annoyed. Even if it *is* just a 'ship on a TV show. :) Then I'll think, well, I didn't watch SGA for the 'ship and I won't now. Friendship is just as good as a romantic relationship, and I'd say even better. And besides, if the ShepWeir 'ship sinks, there's always fanfic, right?

#2 Feb 17th 2006, 3:11am

I agree. There is always fanfics, but I'd be very disappointed if the ship doesn't go our way. I don't even see the Teyla and John thing. The Elizabeth and John shipperness is more obvious.

-D

#3 Mar 14th 2006, 8:51am

Yup. Liz and John have a much better chemistry, and Teyla has Ronon! C'mon Mr. Script writer! They are made for each other! Hehe, getting a bit carried away here!

#4 Mar 14th 2006, 10:11am

Again I totally agree! It's soooo easy to see the sparks between E and J. Your right. Teyla has Ronon, and whoever can't see that must be blind. lol I mean...the two of them come from the same galaxy!!!! They can relate to each other much better. Same with John and Elizabeth.

-D

#5 Mar 14th 2006, 5:14pm

In the first season I'd admit Teyla and Sheppard was far more likely, but it seems this season we're getting a lot more Sheppard and Weir, while Teyla and Ronan partner up. I mean if anyone doesn't see the heat when they look at Teyla and Ronan... they're blind! Teyla fits with Ronan way better than with Sheppard! When they had Teyla and Sheppard kiss... I gotta say, it didn't bother me the way I thought it would. There were just no sparks AT ALL! When Sheppard and Weir kissed... I swear I saw stars and it wasn't even them! Right now the writers seem to be testing the waters... and I believe they really saw that the sparks were flying when it came to Teyla and Ronan or they wouldn't have had them together so much in season two there by the end! They just fit... just as Shep/ Weir fit! :D

#6 Mar 24th 2006, 9:19pm

SPARTAN-275

I think Ronon/Teyla is a better pair than Sheppard/Teyla

Schweir FTW

#7 Apr 05th 2006, 11:39am

Sparky forever! That's my motto! And I'm sorry, but it is bloody important if shep and weir hook up, i swear to God i have never cringed in my life as much as i did when i saw john kiss teyla in conversion. It was horrific! And not the sightest bit romantic, like in TLG. Because let's face it. That was the hottest AND the sweetest thing ever! And I don't usually put hot things and sweet things in the same catergory. Teyla is what? Under 25. John and Liz are both over 35. Reason no. 1. Secondly, they flirt, which Teyla probably doesn't even know the meaning of! (Literally, I doubt it's in the Athosian dictionary) Three, they spend most of their time together. Four, there relationship is somewhat risky due to the fact she is the boss, same dilemma with sam and jack, all ships needed dilemmas!!!! And last but not least, what the hell is Ronan gonna do! Spanky spend their whole time flirting and they relate to each other and it does not make sense if there is Sheyla because Ronan would have no one! And as McWeir...don't even get me started. I don't mean to be the rude, British **, but c'mon...how can you be civil with your emotions of other ships. Well...that's all I got to say...anyone agree.

#8 May 09th 2006, 10:36am

I totaly agree. And i do mean to be a rude, British **, because Teyla and John do not go together at all! Myself and so many others can see nothing between them... where as sparky have, well, Sparks! Jeeze, and Ronon/Elizabeth? What are you guys thinking?! I love Atlantis, i really do, but if John ends up with someone else despite the amazing chemistry he has with Weir, then i will be very dissapointed indeed. And crushed if it's with Teyla after all the complaints that have been posted on the web.

Well, i'll end my rant now...

Any others feel strongly either way?

Pandora

#9 May 09th 2006, 10:45am

That is more like it, my dear friend! That's what I want to hear! And Ronan/Elizabeth shippers need some serious explaining to do, if they think that one is gonna foly with me. And I'm glad you mean to be rude, you've got some gumtion (probably not how you spell it or use it correctly, but coolest word ever!!) The atlantis het web is mostly ruled by those carrying the sparky torch (thank God!) Let us just hope the Atlantis producers spend a lot of time on the web and realise what the people want. xxx

#10 May 10th 2006, 2:24am

Exactly. Couldn't have put it better myself. Come on Atlantis producers, see the sparky supporters of the internet world! They deserve some answers, quick! Gumition... yeah, nice word! Let the Sparky torches burn brighter!

#11 May 10th 2006, 9:47am

Well, I don't mean to brag, okay that's crap, I kinda do mean to brag but, my dear panddora if all Sparky torch holders were all like some of the people in this forum...people would be like Sheyla? What's that? But I have to admit at the beginning I wasn't surprised they were pushing for Sheyla because they are all male producers and they thought flyboy falls for hot alien chick...we want romance gentlemen! With Sparky written all over it! I can only hope, my dear panddora, that you light the torches of others to join the fight because c'mon Sheyla sounds like a energy boosing drink...try Sheyla with no added sugar! It now comes in straberry and melin flavours too! Anyway, this isn't exactly wha the forum asks of but panddora keeping writing sparky...preferably soon because I appear to be one of the only ones at the in-between seasons time! Sparky won't die, don't fear! Otherwise, I will have a serious bone to pick with the producers. P.S I've read this on other sites...what does TPTB mean? xxx kitty

#12 May 10th 2006, 1:13pm

TPTB? I really haven't a clue!! And it really does sound like one of the energy boost drinks. We should totaly make and sell them! We'd make loads i'm sure! I know about the imeidiate "hot alien and fly boy" but that's just too obvious. and liz and john's chemistry is blatantly obvious!! Sheyla have nothing! Btw, your fic i'm reading atm is awesome! it really is!!! Love it!

Yay sparky!!!

Down with Sheyla!

Pandi xx

#13 May 10th 2006, 1:59pm

Now you're talking! Yep! I'm afraid it's down with Sheyla and a 'go sparky' from my living room. And thanks I am really glad that you like my fic, I o all 'squee' when i get reviews because well...it's bloody nice to know someone is actually reading it. I have to admit you have been nothing my a devoted reviewer and for that I thank you xxx

#14 May 11th 2006, 9:41am

Hehe, tis fine. any idea when the new series is out? Guess thats little off the topic... well, it's still techincally about Stargate Atlantis, and lets face it, one of the reasons i watch it is for Sparky!! So i think it's ok putting it here? And yes, Sheyla should be frowned upon by all!

#15 May 11th 2006, 2:00pm

I'm reading your fic too!!!! It's really good, and I like all the sparky moments.

Anyways...yeah...the Sheylas have nothing!!!!! It's just wishful thinking on their part.

-D

#16 May 11th 2006, 3:12pm

Well, yes down with the sheyla's and i'm glad you like my fic too, as for when the nxt season is out, for the US it's July the 9th or 14th maybe, don't quote me that,but for my little island....well, on sky one it usually comes in late december or early october...it makes me wanna cry, but yay! I'm all glad we are 'down with the shelya's' because a lot of them ** about sparky people because let's face it they're jealous and then the others believe to ** about sparky shippers isn't nice...well...let's face it those guys will just be easier to fight. I'm sorry, I'm horrible fortunately I'm like this and believe it is a quality, anyway back to the matter at hand...sparky rocks and that pretty much sums it up...but where the hell is the sparky fanfiction the only two stories i see being updated are mine and one other about liz going all ancient. Someone needs to demand more fics! Panddora, I'm afraid I nominated you :) love you really xx

#17 May 12th 2006, 7:16am

Oh... but you are so much better at writing them... and and, i have exams... but you are right. Sparky's are running low at the moment so all you sparky torch bearers start a'writtin! hehe,

pandi xxx

#18 May 12th 2006, 12:57pm

Me? Better at writing them? Please! I have even written one full story yet...I'm still stuck on what to do for the next chapter. But you're right Pandi sparky fics are dwindling as it is desperate times and no one had any inspiration because they are all waiting for season 3. Completely off topic when wwere we ever on topic- have you heard about the Weir-centric episode, The Real World? xx

#19 May 13th 2006, 2:06am

Oo oo, really?! YAY! Can't wait! Elizabeth is a great character, far better than Teyla the pouting alien. And i love your story!! Please update sooooon!!!!

Now come on sparky people, though we're having to wait a while for inspiration, as kittyplank put it, use your imagination etc!!

Pandi xx

#20 May 13th 2006, 4:44am

You know it's funny...we keeping calling out to people but I keep thinking that we are the only people out their listening, but don't worry I will update soon, unlike other people...i read their fanstatic fics with a cliff hanger and they never ever update they just abandon it...it's very depressing...on topic...teyla's boring, will that do? xx

#21 May 13th 2006, 3:08pm

Yeah, is there anyone else out there? Not that i don't enjoy our convo's!! You seem to have the exact same opinion of Atlantis and its characters as i do! Yeah, i'm guilty of that "cliff-hanger" problem. If i don't get enough reviews i assume it wasn't very good and let it, well, die!

Pandixx

#22 May 14th 2006, 1:31am

yeah well no one needs to know about that and i enjoy our convo's too, completely off topic but i'm not bothered xxx

#23 May 14th 2006, 2:15am

All i can say is BOTH of you guys rock, i ALWAYS like to catch up on Atlantis fan fic, but some i will always be more excited about! ;) and although i punish myself with cliffhanger stories all the time, they drive me crazy, updating is wonderful! (hint hint) Now to the topic at hand... ahem... Teyla is nice and stuff... great girl, really, BUT SOOOOO NOT RIGHT FOR JOHN SHEPPARD! When it came to SG-1 it didn't take a rocket scientist to see that Sam and Jack just fit, and the writers picked up it quite a bit cause they ACKNOWLEDGED the fact that the feelings were there instead of trying to force something that doesn't work. (:cough: Sam and Daniel :cough: Sorry guys, but Sam/ Daniel... YUCK!)

I think the writers are smart enough to know when they'd be forcing something. At least I HOPE their smart enough! Obviously the saw something for them to add in the kiss for us shippers in TLG when the wrote that story, so they are obviously playing with the idea... but notice they never did that with Sam and Jack. After they kissed it was over, you didn't see Sam jumping next to Daniel because of some wacky alien thingy that's made them lose control.... They kissed, they saw sparks turn into flames... no need to further explore. When John and Teyla kissed it was a different story. They didn't stop right there and say... yup, that'll work. Now let's make things hard and confusing, and crappy for them until we end the show and get them together. INSTEAD they tried something else. They had John kissing Elizabeth... and oddly enough I heard no apologies, interesting. :)

I think season three will probably be the thing that tells us what the writers thought after seeing the episodes play out... Sheyla or Sparky... but it shouldn't be a hard choice. A blind man could see there was room for more between John and Lizzie!

(oh and side point TPTB means "the powers that be")

#24 May 14th 2006, 9:31pm

Yay! Now we know what that means... makes so much sense now...

And i totaly agree with all that you said! I'm hoping the writers are just toying with us at the moment, and will confirm sparky later... well, they better be *shakes fist*.

Pandi xx

#25 May 15th 2006, 10:50am

Astrantia

'Pouting alien'? That's hilarious!

#26 May 15th 2006, 10:48pm

Just imagine! Think of all the people we obviously represent1 (there are more of us, I know it!) And yes, 'pouting aline' is damn hilarious, but let's be completely honest, Teyla isn't exactly what I would call a complex character with obvious deep hidden feelings and even if she did the writers don't give her much of a chance. I mean Sam was the main girl and Jack the main guy...coincedence that Liz i the main girl and John the main guy, oh I think not! Pandi knows they have to be together (we have had lovely discussions about it xx) and Andie O'Neill seems to understand to. So does Beach chickJASSNl, let's face it for every one person actually saying their opinion there has to be thousands not saying it. I mean livejournal has their own bloody website for Pete's sake, www.livejournal.com/community/john_elizabeth which I think shows that everyone in the world should just except it. The Sparky supporters rule the internet, it won't be soon until we rule the writers and producers who are TPTB (I finally know what that means!) and we can slowly, but surely create an sparkish atmosphere in the good ol' city of Atlantis xx

#27 May 16th 2006, 10:00am

Kitty, well put! You are compleatly right! And yeah! Teyla is anything but complex...which makes her ideal for RONON! John is made for Elizabeth in every way possible. I haven't seen any hints of sparkiness in the season 3 spoilers yet, but i'm crossing all finger, toe's, thumbs and limbs that they will include many!

Pandi

PS. i love you mr. script writer from Atlantis. Please listen to us!

#28 May 16th 2006, 12:14pm

I really hope the writers are reading this and listening to what we all have to say. You guys are bring up some very good points about the relationship between John and Elizabeth. I'm out here in California listening, and like many have said I agree with everything. I just hope that the writers can see the magical sparks between them and won't keep pairing John with other women. I also hope that season three holds more sparky moments for them.

-D

#29 May 16th 2006, 3:28pm

Ahhh, california. I hear it's quite sunny and like the rumours...England's got crappy weather. Completely off-topic, but I am intrigued where you all come from? I come from Tunbrigde Wells in Kent? Pandi? Tell us all about your lives people and what got you involved in SG-A and sparky shipping!!!!!! xx

#30 May 18th 2006, 9:21am

Brighton, West Sussex, England myself! Yeah, the weather here is not great. Grr... Lucky Calafornians. I got in to stargate from day 1 pretty much. Wasn't a huge success over here for a little while, but i loved it from the begining all those years ago! And my dad loves macgyver... so we had a minni RDA fan club anyway! Hehe.

Pandixx

#31 May 18th 2006, 10:15am

Maryland, America... (sadly... rather boring, rainy weather!) My mom grew up here, but her parents are from England.... :) I actually didn't get into Stargate SG-1 until it's seventh season, before I thought it was kinda stupid, until my friend got me into it. Then I started watching every season until I caught up. It was sooo cool, and I was... ahem... in love with O'Neill... so when Atlantis came out, I was like why not?! Watched it from the begining... thought John Sheppard was hot... and that Rodney McKay was awesome... and later believed it was important that I marry Carson Beckett (he's just sooo adorable!) and boom!

I was hooked.

At first I was on the fence, cause it seemed that in season one they'd lean towards Teyla and Sheppard, but after the whole The Storm and The Eye (not to mention Home) well, I thought it was way more interesting if Elizabeth and John got together, of course I doubted it would happen... until of course they started promoting the second season and I saw John and Elizabeth kiss! That's when the ship became my true fav! Sparky has the sparks!

#32 May 18th 2006, 1:32pm

Hey Everyone!!!

Like I said before, I live in California. The weather has been sunny and hot lately, but the news casters say that there is a chance of rain. I can't believe it! It's almost summer, and they say it's going to rain! Sorry that was off topic.

I first watched SG-1 years ago. My dad got me interested as well, and after that, I started watching every episode. I wasn't sure if I'd like Atlantis when it first came out. I didn't watch the first season until the summer when the Sci fi channel started showing re-runs. After that, I fell in love with the show and Joe Flanagan. I've been a sparky shipper for a while now. I love writing fanfiction and making videos.

Anyone else want to share there life story???? lol

-D

#33 May 18th 2006, 3:06pm

Well...nice to know Pandi lives near by! I love Brighton! And New England has the England in its name so...close enough! :)

Anyway...I started watching SG-1 in its seventh season on sky one and then i just caught up on episodes they repeated. First off I refused to watch Sg-A because I thought it wa gonna replace Sg-1 but then I saw the storm and the eye and was like...oh my God...I like it better than Sg-1 and oh my God...this John Sheppard and Elizabeth are soul mates and then I caught with the rest of the episodes.

Huh? I forgot this forum is about 'weir or teyla?' well...i think we all know the answer to that little question don't we? :) xxxx

#34 May 19th 2006, 8:37am

Hehe, shucks. Rain in Calafornia... it rains most days of the year here!! Yeah, well, staying on topic never was our priority here... really should write another fic soon. And you guys too! Update kitty! Jeeze, it's been ages since you added another chapter!

Never tried making videos... do you have any online Beach chick?

Pandixxx

#35 May 19th 2006, 8:58am

I've made a few videos, but I don't post them anywhere yet.

This is a little off topic but how do people get season 2 episodes in their videos? I've been trying to figure it out. Season two has some of the best sparky moments, and I fear I'm going to have to wait for the dvd to come out. So does anyone know??? Do I need to get equipment or what???

Never fear people! My new chapter of The Cover Story is coming out in the next few days. It's very sparkish. Lots of shippy moments. So read...if you dare. lol

I had to add this: THERE ARE NO SPARKS BETWEEN JOHN AND TEYLA!!!!!!! I DON'T GET WHERE PEOPLE SEE IT. I'm done now.

-D

#36 May 19th 2006, 3:26pm

If you want another chapter of TRIP HOME WELL BACK TO EARTH you have to help me. Seriously! I am so stuck. HELP!!!!!!!

#37 May 19th 2006, 3:55pm

Astrantia

To be honest (and this isn't for the sake of starting an argument), I thought that early in season one there *were* sparks between John and Teyla. There were several scenes where I just stared at the screen and thought 'Yeah, that's the direction the writers are going in'. Didn't anybody here ever see anything like that? And I was neutral back then too, no 'ships at all. Now, I'm not entirely sure.

Don't hate me for this, but I just had to disagree with you there, Beach chickJASSNL. :)

#38 May 21st 2006, 3:00am

Ok...maybe in the first season there could have been something. Could have been. But now it's past season two, and as a faithful shipper it's my job to look past the first season and try to guess what pairing best fits. For some reason I can't see Teyla and John together. I can see Teyla and Ronon and John and Elizabeth together. John just seems to be a good friend to Elizabeth and hopefully that will develope into something more. I see more the same kind of friendship between Teyla and Ronon. They both seem to understand what the other feels.

That's my reasoning. I hope that made sense. It makes sense to me. lol :)

-D

#39 May 21st 2006, 9:56am

Don't hate me for this, but I just had to disagree with you there, Beach chickJASSNL. :)

I don't hate you. I agree that there was something, but it's gone now. ;)

-D

#40 May 21st 2006, 10:00am

Huh? Didn't understand the last two posts. Umm, Teyla and Ronon? Hmm, never really given much thought to their shippyness. But i guess they do have some chemistry, though not even close to Elizabeth and John's ;D

Pandi

#41 May 21st 2006, 10:07am

Sorry to confuse you. If you go to the site and read what Astrantia wrote then what I wrote it might make more sense. I think there is something between Teyla and Ronon, but the more obvious sparks are between John and Elizabeth.

-D

#42 May 21st 2006, 10:12am

Hehe, so easily confused. Will be kewl having two ships at once!! I mean there's sam/jack and vala/daniel in SG1, but they didn't happen at the same time... Hmm, who knows, mayb i'll grow to like Teyla if she's occupied with Ronon... hehe,

Pandi xxx

#43 May 21st 2006, 10:30am

I'll admit in the beginning i was pretty sure that the writers would explore the relationship between Teyla and Sheppard, did I think there was anything there? Not really, but so I wouldn't get ** at the show I decided to stay neutral bout the matter and wait and see. Thankfully it seems from season two, that the direction will be far more interesting than teyla and sheppard!

as for ronan and teyla... it would take a while for that to develop, for now i see friendship... then later ronan starts to feel something... and maybe teyla thinks he's hot or something, and the temperture rises everytime their in the same room together... especially when their alone.

actually, there's a few ships in both sg-1 and atlantis

SG-1

Sam/ Jack

Daniel/ Vala

(And is it just me or should Cameron get a girl too... and considering who he's seemed most protective of... i could totally see a whole Cameron Mitchell/ Doctor Lam thing.)

Atlantis

Weir/ Sheppard

Ronan/ Teyla

Rodney/ Katie Brown (it may have just been one episode, but that girl was nuts for Rodney!)

And a slight fav of mine... cause it's cute....

Carson Beckett/ Laura Cadmen

So... we'll see... just cause it works, doesn't mean it'll ever happen, but in my happy writing universe everything works out! lol

#44 May 22nd 2006, 9:42pm

actually, there's a few ships in both sg-1 and atlantis

I agree with all the ships you listed. Each of them has potental from what we've seen and each of them could work. I guess we are going to have to wait and see.

(And is it just me or should Cameron get a girl too... and considering who he's seemed most protective of... i could totally see a whole Cameron Mitchell/ Doctor Lam thing.

He needs a girl too! I agree.

-D

#45 May 22nd 2006, 9:54pm

Yup, i agree with all of them too. Hehe, they should get Hammond one. But nothing beats John and Elizabeth. Well, Vala/Daniel and Jack/Sam come close.

Never really took to Doctor. Lam. Aparently she's married to Michael Shanks :-O !

Pandi

#46 May 23rd 2006, 9:46am

Izzles

i started to read all the replies but gave up so i just wanted to say what i believe:

i loooove sparky. end of.

im not sure who said it, but i agree that there has to be a bit of a dilema-y situation in the ship [elizabeth being john's boss].

i really like the ronon/teyla pairing, and so theres another reason why john can't egt paired off with teyla. also its a huge cliche - the flyboy and the aien girl...where as the boss? not so much of a cliche

and sparky have such chemistry - obvious even from the beginning their respect turning to frienship then more.

that's my little input, am off to go find more sparky stories, i think i may have read them all! :]

#47 Jun 05th 2006, 3:16pm

Finally someone posted something! I was starting to think that everyone had left.

I agree with you too. I love sparky! Pairing the leader with the hero of the story is not sooooooo cliche.

and sparky have such chemistry - obvious even from the beginning their respect turning to frienship then more.

That's the best way to go. Friends first and then have their friendship turn into love. I could really see that happening.

-D

#48 Jun 05th 2006, 5:30pm