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entercreativename

Topic: How do you define "slash?"

Once again from lawm at TWoP:

...how do you define "slash"? I've seen things labeled "no slash" in which the characters are textually in a homosexual relationship, although no sex occurs in the fic itself. This confuses me.

#1 Oct 11th 2006, 9:39pm . Edited Oct 11th 2006, 10:08pm

Raneee

http://www.afterelton.com/print/2006/10/slash.html

This was posted on TWoP & I think its useful for this discussion. I also wish someone would send it to TPTB & explain why I (& a lot of others) don't want to watch Hameron.

#2 Oct 12th 2006, 12:33pm

entercreativename

I also wish someone would send it to TPTB & explain why I (& a lot of others) don't want to watch Hameron.

Read it and I'm instantly reminded of Rafe and Allison on Port Charles (if anyone watched it). They were a couple that was never going to be written until the show's producers saw how wonderful these two actors (Brian Gaskill as Rafe and Erin Hershey Presley as Allison) were onscreen together. I know this is off-topic, but in the case on Port Charles, TPTB just let creativity and chemistry lead to where it should lead and the show was nominated for an Emmy partially because of that (and in another controversial Emmy race, they lost and the show's producer got a more lucrative deal with another soap on ABC).

What I'm saying is that TPTB should just let chemistry and creativity take its course on the show. If it leads to slash, cool. If it doesn't, still cool. IMHO, it will probably lead to slash as the chemistry between Laurie and Leonard works well enough to develop into that more (I'm actually an anti-shipper, but am completely for side-flings).

As far as the original question goes above, slash IMO seems to be erotica written where at least two of the characters involved in the main part of the story are of the same gender.

#3 Oct 12th 2006, 6:55pm . Edited Oct 12th 2006, 6:56pm

saarazaara

I'd agree with that def, but does the relationship have to be sexual or implied - where's the line between slash & friendship?

#4 Oct 13th 2006, 10:41am

entercreativename

I guess that when I see the word "slash" I expect to have a written representation of the act of sex even if only between friends (eg casual sex), or at least some steamy making out. If it's just implied in a story, then I don't really consider it sex unless starts with an implication of the sex act having just happened such as: "House lifted himself out of bed with the greatest care possible; his leg cried with more pain that usual, but he was not sure why. Could it have been from his naked best friend lying in bed next to him?" That I would consider slash. If he were having that thought at work, in a different setting from where the act happened, then I would not consider it slash unless it went into detail. Example: "House lifted himself out of his chair with the greatest care possible; his leg cried with more pain that usual, but he was not sure why. Could it have been from the naked best friend he saw in his bed this morning?" If the story went on to talk about the newest patient or something else entirely, and did not focus on the sex, then it's not slash. If it went on to describe the sex, then it's slash.

That's my personal opinion though.

ETA - edited to clarify.

#5 Oct 13th 2006, 7:03pm . Edited Oct 13th 2006, 7:04pm

saarazaara

Could it have been from the naked best friend he saw in his bed this morning?If the story went on to talk about the newest patient or something else entirely, and did not focus on the sex, then it's not slash. If it went on to describe the sex, then it's slash."

With that in mind, and the sex implied & therefore not slash, but clearly not friendship, is there a term for this?

#6 Oct 14th 2006, 9:00am

entercreativename

I've always thought that it depends on the situation. The term leaves so many gray areas. The official definition is as follows:

Stories that depict a romantic and/or sexual relationship between characters of the same gender. This usually refers to male/male pairings, as that is the dominant type of story, but it also refers to female/female pairings. The term originated in Star Trek fandom as Kirk/Spock (or K/S) stories. Slash refers to the "/" between the names.

but I guess it is more in the eye of the beholder. Here are more definitions:

-(or "adult") homoerotic fanfic, usually X-rated, between two main same sex characters. Can also be written as "/", or, in SH fic, S/H

-fan fiction which depicts an erotic attraction or relationship - up to and including intercourse - between characters of the same sex (in particular those for whom no such relationship has been established by series canon).

-Stories with romantic homosexual pairings. (eg Jack/Daniel)

In each case, they can range from two people just having sex to a full partnership without sex. As the term appeared so long ago, maybe it's time to redefine it for the 21st century.

#7 Oct 21st 2006, 1:50am

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