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Topic: Which Doctor do you Prefer?
I haven't seen the end of Season One YET, but I am working on it. Anways, I know that somehow the doctor changes into the new guy with reading glasses. Which one do you like better?

I think I like Christopher Eccleston (sp?) better. I don' t know why. Maybe it's because he's the first person I saw as the doctor. Although, I do have to admit the second guy is hotter. MUCH hotter.

#1 Oct 18th 2006, 5:16pm
Indoctrinated
David Tennant all the way. I haven't the words to describe how exceedingly scrummy he is, so I leave that in the very capable hands of my friend who I'm quoting. "David Tennant is so uber-smexy he makes me want to internally combust and melt into a puddle of caramel-like goo." *ahem* Yeah, that about covers it. :D

Add on onto the top he's Scottish and that COMPLETELY seals the deal for me.

#2 Oct 29th 2006, 7:00pm
Got Scots
Haha niiiice. Well now that I have recently learned David Tennant is Scottish, I have changed my mind. I like the tenth doctor better! Hehe. So do any British people who randomly visit this forum just for fun know who the eleventh doctor will be?
#3 Oct 30th 2006, 4:23pm
JennMel
There will only be an eleventh doctor when David Tennant gives it up, which hopefully won't be for AGES yet(I love him so much). Besides, there can only be 13 regenerations of the doctor.
#4 Nov 27th 2006, 3:03pm
Got Scots
Oh really? Why thirteen? That's unlucky... I hope he doesn't stop soon then. I still have a theory that Ewan McGregor will be the next doctor. I swear...
#5 Nov 28th 2006, 2:14pm
runningondreams
hmmm....such a tough choice. Tennant is gorgeous, yes, and funny, and sweet, and all that, but I'm gonna have to go with Eccleston. He's got one of the most expressive faces I've ever seen, I'm a sucker for angst, and that grin is addictive. Tennant's face can't do the same sort of seething anger or serious resignation. They're both wonderfully talented actors, I just prefer Eccleston's style. I also think he had a better script to work with, and better embodies 'the Doctor.' I mean, I can really believe it, with him. I can /see/ the centuries streaching out behind him and the guilt, and his reluctence to get close because everyone always dies on him, and he's more of a teacher and a friend. That's important because one of the staples of this series is that the companions always leave, somehow. It would never go anywhere if the characters didn't change. He's experienced in what he does, and I think all that intelligence is more evident (this is not to say that Tennant makes the Doctor look stupid, just that sometimes Eccleston's character seems a lot more complex). Always in control, or at least visibly trying to work things out, and he's not as...distracted as the 10th Doctor. To my mind, he makes a better Time Lord, overall.

Plus, he's not without his charms, especially in the 'oh-my-god-he's-so-COOL' department.

Although- I happen to adore the 10th Doctor's choice of outfit. Suit and chucks. Perfect. Wouldn't have worked for Eccleston, but perfect for Tennant.

#6 Dec 03rd 2006, 7:04pm
runningondreams
hmmm....such a tough choice. Tennant is gorgeous and funny, and all that, but I'm going to have ot go with Eccleston. He's got one of the most expressive faces I've ever seen, I'm a sucker for angst, and that grin is addictive. Tennant's face just can't do the same sort of seething anger or serious resignation. I think Eccleston had a better script to work with and with him I can really believe it. I can /see/ the centuries stretching out behind him and I can feel his reluctance to let anyone get close, because everyone always ends of leaving one way or another, and he's got that guilty, frantic vengence routine down to an art form. He's more of a teacher and friend than the Tenth doctor, not as...distracted, and that's important. One of the staples of this series is that the companions always change, or it wouldn't go anywhere, and so the role of teacher and almost father-figure is probably the one that he plays the most in his life. Possibly the only thing that will last forever for him is the TARDIS, and I feel like Eccleston relfects that well. He also presents a more complex character, with all that intelligence constantly running just below the surface. Always in some semblance control or at least working his way there, even when the world is melting under his feet. I think he makes a better Time Lord, overall.

Plus, he's not entirely without his charms, especially in teh 'oh-my-god-he's-so-COOL' department.

Although- I adore the Tenth Doctor's outfit. Suit and chucks. Wouldn't have worked for Eccleston, but perfect for Tennant.

*sigh* 13 regenerations, I've seen that too....that means it has to end! unless they start doing a back story...and I think there have been some hints that 'he's not a regular Time Lord' and some regenerations before the first tlevised one, so who knows. Maybe there's really only one left. Maybe there're more. Maybe we can actually see Gallifrey at some point! That would be awesome.

#7 Dec 03rd 2006, 7:21pm
runningondreams
sorry for the double post, I thought my computer ate it the first time; I was having internet trouble.
#8 Dec 03rd 2006, 7:22pm
Got Scots
Yeah, yeah agreed. Tennant is MUCH hotter, but I liked Christopher's character better. He did really seem... er... timelordlicious. I am LOVING the chucks and suit outfit too. YUM! If I were a guy, I would totally wear that EVERY DAY.
#9 Dec 05th 2006, 5:12pm
runningondreams
'timelordlicious'? *laughs* sounds edible.

A friend of mine wore chucks under a prom dress recently. It was awesome ^.^

The costume for the next season.....not so great. Somehow, I just don't like that particular shade of blue on Tennant. Not sure why. And if you want to suspend disbelief as to the end of the current season, I'd suggest not looking up the images just yet.

#10 Dec 06th 2006, 1:05pm
Got Scots
Aha. Maybe I will look up the pics... maybe I won't.

And one of MY friends wore chucks with a formal dress lately. *dramatic pause* Wait well... *realizes it was the same friend* AAAAAHHHH! lol wouldn't that be weird? Was your friend's dress purple?

#11 Dec 06th 2006, 5:08pm
runningondreams
nah. It was black with dramatic white stripe-section things, so it matched really well ^.^

That would require us (probably) being in teh same city, which would frankly be amazing. ^.~

#12 Dec 06th 2006, 5:18pm
JennMel
It's weird, but converse (do you call them chucks? How come? I'm really curious) and smart stuff look really good together. Especailly on David Tennant... I dunno if he's wearing them with his new costume - hope so.
#13 Dec 07th 2006, 11:08am
runningondreams
Ah...we used to call them converse, or all-stars, and then there was this TV show called 'Walker Texas Ranger' or something (I didn't watch it, never appealed to me), and the main actor wore them. His name was Chuck Norris (he's done a lot of other stuff too, mostly action movies, but that's what I can think of right now). Apparantly, people thought it was really cool, and he did lots of martial arts. There were numerous jokes about..round-house kicks and extra fists, and random bits about his proficiency as a fighter. So people started calling the shoes 'chucks'.

At least, I think that's how it went.

Ah, the evolution of American slang. *shakes head* we are so pathetic.

#14 Dec 07th 2006, 12:38pm
Got Scots
I LOVE CHUCK NORRIS!

Well not really. I just love all the Chuck Norris jokes.

#15 Dec 07th 2006, 3:21pm
runningondreams
Another possible origin of the 'chuck's' name: Converse all stars were the original basketball shoe, and in 1923 Chuck Taylor, a professional basketball player, worked with the company to improve the shoe. For the rest of his life he served as the 'Ambassador of Basketball' for Converse.

This makes a bit more sense, but since the name didn't turn up until recently (as far as I can tell) I think the chuck norris thing might actually have more merit. Maybe.

#16 Dec 09th 2006, 11:23am
Got Scots
Ehh... I don't know because a lot of people call them "Chuck Taylors". But enough about chucks...

Is anyone like an... 'old school' Doctor Who fan? What were the other doctors like? (One, two and three and so on...) And just out of curiousity... did the Doctor ever have a male assistant?

#17 Dec 10th 2006, 11:25am
JennMel
My favorite Doctor prior to the new series was Tom Baker (the 4th Doctor I believe). Almost as eccentric as the current Doctor. And he too had the trench coat, although he also added the most amazing scarf in the world.

As bad guys go, Davros was definitely the best, as the creator of the Daleks. Both comic and creepy at the same time. I never really saw the others, as I only saw the Tom Baker ones on repeats.

And yes, there was once a male assistant. I can't remember which Doctor, but it was a girl and a guy helping the Doctor at the same time. I think that was why some people thought that Adam might become a permanent fixture along with Rose.

#18 Dec 18th 2006, 3:37pm
runningondreams
I've seen some Tom Baker ^.^ he /is/ good. And he's the one that both Tennant and Eccleston claim as their 'first doctor,' which makes him worth seeing anyway. But his performance is steller. Love the scarf.

I think the male companion was 'Harry Sullivan.' He was a surgeon at UNIT and joined in to travel with Sarah Jane and the 4th Doctor at the end of Tom Baker's second episode.

#19 Dec 18th 2006, 7:38pm
JennMel
Apparently they also killed off one of the male assistants too in a really sad episode, but I haven't seen that one and can't remember what my friend said his name was.
#20 Dec 19th 2006, 10:27am
Got Scots
Hmmm... well I think the Doctor's assistant should be just a guy. Just the Doctor and a guy. It would be interesting for a little while don't you think?

And also is um... Tom Baker the one who they make fun of in all the spoofs. Like... have you guys seen the one where he rides that train from England to France? It's REALLY funny. "I am the doctor. I travel through time, space, all over the galaxy... and on trains."

#21 Dec 19th 2006, 5:04pm
JennMel
Hehe, haven't seen that one!
#22 Dec 21st 2006, 8:12am
Crabs
Yeah, but it's always the Doctor and his girl. He always is having some girl along with him, always. xD From his granddaughter, to the latest. So it's unlikely that he will ever just travel with a guy.

Oh, and I'm constantly strung between the Ninth and the Fourth. x.x I can relate to the Ninth in every way, but I have this thing for that scarf, and K-9 (xD), and I have a sort of block in my mind that never lets me like the newer ones, the ones that most new fans know about. x.x;; It's like I can't handle the complete lack of interest in the Classic series that's flowing around. xD Anywho, yeah. It's the Ninth or the Fourth. Yay scarves. x3

#23 Jan 26th 2007, 3:27pm
Crabs
Oh, hey, Wikipedia has a lot on Doctor Who. It's how I know more about it than my Mom, an old-school Whovian that started watching it a -long- time ago x3

The first was older, a miserly grandfather figure. The second, made to be in contrast to the First, was more childish and impish. The third was more arrogant ad self-preserving, if I remember. The Fourth was humerous and eccentric, and often aloof. He's sort of like the Ninth in his tendency to be serious when alone, but humerous when with others. The Fifth was more reserved, and was far less likely to take the lead in situations. He despised violence. The Sixth was egotistical and violent, though this faded as the series went on, and he became more mellow. The Seventh sometimes acted like a fool, and hated violence, prefering to manipulate others, with great skill. The Eighth was romantic (as shown by the kiss xD), and acted like the Third in his way of acting childish in order to hide his old soul. And that leads to the Ninth, and the End of the Classic series.

Hope that helped, Got Scots. And seriously, check Wikipedia. I've only seen a few of the Doctors (stupid Eighth and his one television appearence that my Mom's friend never taped. .

#24 Jan 26th 2007, 3:54pm
Legolas0
Okay, so you guys are all right, but I /have/ got to add my two cents. The male companion that died was Adric, who has got to be one of the greatest companions of all time. He died in "Earthshock." Also, I'm not entirely sure, but I think the Fifth Doctor traveled for a short time with just Tourlough(I know the spelling is wrong here) and Kamelion for a short time, and since Kamelion was a robot, I think this qualifies as an all-male TARDIS crew.

So anyway, my fav Doctor . . . do i have to choose just one... well I know it's not One or Seven, neither of them were all that great. Out of the two most recent, I'd have to say Tennant. He is GORGEOUS!!!!!! Scottish, with freckles, how can you beat that? But I also love, Baker with the scarf, Davison with the celery and crickett outfit, and the other Baker with the bright patchwork coat. Sorry, Chris, I love ya, but you fit in here. That comes with seeing all the other Doctors in action. And then comes Pewtree(again, spelling wrong) and Troughton. Finnaly, McCoy and Hartnell. Hartnell was just way to arrogant for me.

#25 Mar 26th 2007, 8:46pm
Y-Kira
And the spelling is Turlough, but it's okay, it's a strange name for the strange man in short shorts.

And Three was Jon Pertwee, but you were very close. I felt really sad when I saw Adric's death, and since I get all my Classic Who on the Internet, my stepsisters who were watching TV stared at me strangely when I started yelling at the Cybermen for killing him. Five...hmm...Five has got to be my third favorite. Surprisingly enough, Colin Baker is my second favorite Doctor. But the best Doctor EVUH (In my opinion) has got to be Four. Lovable guy, Four. I hear Tom Baker is very stubborn, though. Lalla Ward was one of those few people he could actually get along with. But I'm babbling on about nothing now.

So, in order of favorite down: Four, Six, Five, One, Three, Two, Nine, Eight, Ten, Seven.

I just...didn't set well with Seven. Ace would've had some great chemistry with Eight or Three. But who couldn't sit well with Eight? He's like, the only Doctor I could ever imagine being 'domestic'. But I don't have to, if you read the Blue Angel, a great book.

I think I'm rambling about things nobody cares about now.

#26 Jun 28th 2007, 2:57pm
Crabs
The Fourth was definetly the~ best Doctor of the Classics. I condider him as the sort of definition of what the Doctor should be. :3

That's rare, liking the Sixth. x3 From what I've heard (I -still- haven't seen him. ._.), he was the unlikeable one, the Doctor that everyone loved to hate. : D

I care about your rambling~ xD

#27 Jun 28th 2007, 8:42pm
Y-Kira
Oh of course, Tom Baker set the Doctor standards very high for newcomers, and it helped how he had good stories and likeable companions, like Romana and Sarah Jane. But to me, a companion can make or break a Doctor. The Doctor can be fantastic, but if he has an annoying companion who screams very loudly, has no apparent shame in what they squeeze on their bodies and seems overly helpless or whiney, I probably don't get along well with them. That's why I like mellow companions, like Turlough and K-9.

Yeah Six was unpopular, but most people just loved to hate his coat, which recent studies say can give you forms of eye cancer (See, even I do it). And some people, I have no idea why, were angry with the Sixth Doctor when he strangled Peri. I'd strangle her too people, she sounds like she has a perpetual head cold. And Six had very few stories. He's a pretty scarce Doctor, and there was that whole Trial of a Time Lord business...ack. I think I'm the only person in the world who understood the plot, and accepted it as normality. But poor Six, he got caught with some whiney little companions: Peri and Mel. Surely, if you haven't seen any Sixth Doctor episodes you've heard of Peri. And you shouldn't comment on my rambling, I might just ramble some more.

#28 Jul 03rd 2007, 1:38pm
Legolas0
Tom's cool, yes. But Six was awesome too! He was one of the better Doctors as far as his meshing with the Master goes. "You? Oh, now I'm really dead." Of course, he's the one who get's stuck with the two screeching companions. I was watching Time and the Rani the other day, covering my ears and going "shut up, Mel!" she was by far the worst companion ever! So the companions gave him a bad rep, even though he did awesome. I was sad 'cause of the way he died, didn't even give a good send off episode like "Planet of the Spiders" or "The Caves of Androzani" =(

Since I never actually said who my favorite all time Doctor was, it's really Davison, Colin Baker, Tennant, Eccleston, McGann, Tom Baker, Troughton, Pertwee, McCoy, and Hartnell. In that order

#29 Jul 04th 2007, 2:25pm
Y-Kira
Oh yes. Davison did very well at being the opposite of Baker's Doctor. And it seems like all the Doctors we dislike had companions who were equally unlikeable. Like I didn't like how EVERY woman in the Hartnell era had ankle troubles, and Six was subject to some companion horrors as I have said. But what gets me is there are people who really dislike Tegan. I think she's an awesome companion really, even if her 'accent' is slightly thick. And Lord knows she was around for a while. I believe there were only two Davison stories she was not present for. I wish they'd just traveled as the two of them though. Tegan and the Doctor make a good team alone, but we never got to see. And Colin really should've gotten a proper regeneration, but would you go back if they fired you and then asked to return for the regeneration sequence? I love Doctor Who, but I think JNT made some bad choices overrall with Colin's era. The biggest of these errors, obviously, is Trial of a Time Lord.
#30 Jul 04th 2007, 9:21pm
Legolas0
Yeah, Trial of a Time Lord was definetly a bit dumb. Been there, done that with Troughton, and it was okay then, but Trial of a Time Lord was just way too much of a good thing, especially with the two screaming companions.
#31 Jul 04th 2007, 9:49pm
Legolas0
Ooh... guess what, guys. I know for a fact that a certain guy with a goatee and a creepy evil laugh is coming back in series 3. Of course, he doesn't have a goatee anymore and I'm not sure about the laugh, but he's back and of course he's out to kill the Doctor.
#32 Jul 04th 2007, 9:56pm
Y-Kira
Now he's Prime Minister. But I don't think we've seen the last of the Master either. And speaking of news, I hear the Doctor's gonna have a new companion for Series Four: Donna. Yes, that's right. As if the Christmas Special wasn't enough, we have her for 13 horrible weeks. The pleasure of Season Four has been sucked clean out. But, if you're an optimist, we can always hope Donna will grow to be fun and enjoyable.
#33 Jul 05th 2007, 8:45am . Edited Jul 05th 2007, 8:46am
Legolas0
Don't spoil my good day like that... I was so looking forward to season three and four. Season three starts today. Can't wait to see Martha!
#34 Jul 06th 2007, 10:12am
Y-Kira
I'm very sorry. I'm going to catch the start of Series Three too. I haven't seen the season finale yet, but I have seen Utopia and Sound of Drums.
#35 Jul 06th 2007, 12:14pm
Legolas0
Martha is brilliant!!! Now, I know Rose wasn't screechy at all, but MArtha is even less so.... after Mel and Peri, two of the Doctor's most recent televised companions, it's a good break from the screaming damsel's in distress...

I already love the relationship the Doctor is developing with her, and scene at the end with him proving his mastery of time was hilarious. I was laughing, and my dad was looking at me funny. Then I had to explain it all to him and he just looked at me with a "you're able to follow that?" look.

alright, enough of my rambling about the best show of all time... I'll just sit her and twiddle my thumbs... :-|

#36 Jul 08th 2007, 9:14pm
Y-Kira
Ah, but she gets more dependant as time goes on...does that count as a spoiler? Oh well. And the rambling is good! Trust me, I have a serious rambling problem that I'm sure started with Doctor Who. If there's one person who can ramble, it's the Doctor.
#37 Jul 09th 2007, 9:44am
chirlagirl
Wow, I guess it's been ages since anyone said anything in this discussion. My favorite has always been Tom Baker because I grew up watching him, but I think now it's definitely David Tennant. Anyway, does anyone in america find it frustrating that you really can't find people (at least close to where you live) that know about this show?
#38 Jul 12th 2007, 8:39am
Y-Kira
Not for me. I usually convert people or at least make them watch it, and most of the time they enjoy the show, but my love of Doctor Who does surpass that of the normal American human being.
#39 Jul 12th 2007, 11:18am
chirlagirl
Yay! Someone else whose obssession goes beyond the norm. Thank goodness! I was begining to think that I was the only one as I've begun to collect toys of the series over the internet.
#40 Jul 12th 2007, 2:27pm
Legolas0
Yay, i keep telling my friends to watch it and i ramble all the time... it's getting to the piont where marie turned around in the plane on the way back from a church trip and said, "Dont get her started on that show..." I still talked for about ten minutes, which is very short for me... It's kinda stupid how America is several months behind the UK. It's so sad getting on FF and you cant read half of the stories, cause they're spoilers for future episodes. Does that bother anyone else...?
#41 Jul 17th 2007, 10:21pm
Fusionmix
Hmm, getting a tad off-topic here...meh.

My favorite doctors were probably Four and Nine, Four for just being so unbelievably weird (yet not in a forced, stupid sort of way), and Nine just for being portrayed by an incredible actor. Eccleston did such a great job; I really don't think that anybody else will be able to hold a candle to him for a long while. And yes, that includes David. I can deal with Tennant as the Doctor currently, but he seems a bit too 'unfocused', in a way. He goes off-topic just like this forum. I know that he became pretty popular due to his looks, but he tries too hard to be 'wacky', as I call it. Oh rubbish, I just said something un-praiseful about him, I shall now be attacked by an army of rabid David fangirls. -sighs-

Ah well. Such is the price that one must pay for an opinion.

#42 Jul 26th 2007, 12:34pm
Y-Kira
Oh, don't worry at all. I've been poking fun at Rose for at least a month now, and I've only gotten three not-so-friendly emails about it.

And I agree with you. David tries too hard to be funny and eccentric. Or is that RTD telling him to try hard? I don't like Russell T. Davies, not after Gridlock. 'The Macra' made me sad inside when I saw that.

#43 Jul 26th 2007, 1:21pm
JennMel
Okay, yes, I am going to take the time to defend David Tennant, but only because you say that Christopher Eccleston is such an amazing actor. Don't get me wrong, he did an excellent job at reviving Doctor Who, and I don't think Tennant would have been up to that job. Eccleston brought a new twist to the Doctor's character, and I don't think Rose would have been as popular if she had started off as the tenth's assistant. But I don't think that Eccleston's acting style was suited to a kid's show. He tried dark, but the show is for too much of a family audience to that to be fully explored.

I think Tennant is far more the Doctor than Eccleston was, simply because he brings more emotion to the role. And being the 'youngest' incarnation, of course he would be one of the more enthusiastic. He is also more sympathetic to others, as can be seen in the character's actions in 'Family of Blood', only using punishment as a last resort.

I also don't think Eccleston could have pulled off the episode The Sound Of Drums. He wasn't particularly great when faced with last Dalek. I will say that perhaps series 3 was lacking in good stories, but I think that is mainly due to the fact they are all churning out amazing episodes for Torchwood, which has the ability to be edgier without pre-watershed restrictions.

As for David Tennant not being a good actor, watch Secret Smile. Anyone who can pull that character off is a freaking good actor in my book.

#44 Jul 26th 2007, 1:43pm
Legolas0
I totally agree, sorry too yo anti David people. I thought David was going to be brilliant right from the word "Barcelona!" Then that cheeky grin came up, and I said, okay, I can handle this... The came Children in Need... and I was in love. And not just for looks, although that was obviously a factor, but because I felt that here was a slightly more human Doctor. Someone more like me... Crazy was good because the audience needed a break from the heartache we got with the Ninth Doctor. Don't get me wrong, I loved Eccleston... But Tennant just brings a bit more Davison and Baker feeling to the show.
#45 Jul 26th 2007, 8:00pm
chirlagirl
I like both Tennant and Chris, althought I think it's Tennant's portrayal of the Doctor that seems more 'kid friendly' than Eccleston's, only because he's more expressive and open in the way he portrays the Doctor. With Eccleston, his Doctor seemed very guarded and occasionally we would get a glimpse of his vulnerability. That's what captivated be about the ninth Doctor. With Tennant's Doctor there is a playfullness to him that engages you when you're watching but in a different way than Eccleston's doctor. I don't think there is just one way The Doctor should be. Remember that he started off as a darker more abrasive Doctor and the other Doctor's weren't all the same.

Let's face it, when you get past Tennant's 'good looks,' he's a pretty good actor.

#46 Jul 26th 2007, 10:05pm
Legolas0
I just got done watching "42" for the first time. And let me tell you, when the Doctor says; "I'm so scared" it sent shivers up my spine. He gets worried, even scared a lot of the time, but he never EVER says it, EVER. That this Doctor did is just amazing to me! Talk about vulerability.
#47 Jul 26th 2007, 11:25pm
kaetea
something i came across on the scifi channel forums rang true with me.

They made a good point that neither the 9th or 10th doctors are 'traditionally' attractive.

Its the fact that they are the doctor, and they act with great charm, wit, and charisma.

#48 Jul 31st 2007, 9:24am
Legolas0
I totally agree. They're the Doctor, just like Troughton, Baker, Davison, and McCoy. It really doesn't matter, as long as they keep the spirit of the show going.
#49 Jul 31st 2007, 10:48am
eruthiel
Totally.
#50 Sep 10th 2007, 9:58am


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