For me, it was a while after actually playing the game. I was never interested much in Cloud, and I could never quite picture him with Tifa. I don't remember why (or when, for that matter) I exactly started liking the idea of Tifa and Vincent together, but I think it was because it was something curiously different - at the time, anyway. That and they just seem logical together. Tifa's a nice gal and would be understanding enough to help Vincent emerge from that shell of his. And Vincent's practicality would be good for Tifa (for her getting over that Strife business... heh).

What turned me off of Tifa/Cloud was when I read some arguements for Aeris/Cloud and realized that the game really didn't end the way I thought it did. I was ignorant at the time that I played and didn't really look too deeply into things. So when I did look into it more closely, it pretty much destroyed the perfect little image I had of how things ended up. Nothing was as I imagined it should be and Cloud, in my mind, didn't show Tifa enough affection for her to stick with him, even though she always did. That irritates me.

Also, I seemed to have developed a thing for non-canon pairings and such. I don't like going with the norm, unless I think it works really well. Unfortunately, I haven't ever come across a canon pairing that pleased me as much as, say, Tifa/Vincent - not only do I think it's a possible combination, I believe it is very likely given their personalities.

Vincent/Tifa grew on me with time. I can't really explain how it happened -- it just did! They're so similar, capable of understanding each other so much, that it's a crime that Square Enix didn't put them together. And it doesn't look like Advent Children will remedy that error.

Tifa/Cloud is fine by me, but that relationship seems awfully imbalanced. The romantic initiative was entirely on Tifa's part. It's hard to logically envision Cloud suddenly responding to her advances.

Incidentally, I'm going to shamelessly plug my Vincent/Tifa fanlisting: http://waterbearer.net/vxt. It has a brand new layout, which I'm very proud of. :D

i like to think of the two mending each other's poor bruised hearts. :) i don't know... the idea just seems so nice. and fluffy... :) good stuff.

winde, mrr

Exactly. There were times when I got annoyed with Tifa's character because of just that. She seemed to become more weak and dependent around Cloud. No thank you. Tifa's a strong gal and needs a better guy.

Then of course I just had to write my own, which isn't nearly as good, but I think I'm getting better. Either that or my reviewers have been lying to me, which is good too. I like living in fantasy worlds.

It's sad to say that Vincent x Tifa fics are not quite as popular as another pairing I won't mention. Vincent and Tifa make much more sense than the other and visually they are more appealing than any I've read or seen so far.

Then of course I had to replay the game for the millionth time and saw the "I'm so glad you're all right Tifa" line made by Vincent. And suddenly I wasn't a Cloud x Tifa supporter anymore, because I'm just that sappy.

That doesn't make you weird, hon, that makes you logical. ;)

To be honest, I wish Square Enix had just put Cloud with *someone* and avoided this love triangle thing. All it did was cause dissent and misery among the fans -- rather than interesting debate and discussion. Everyone takes everything personally, as if the game characters were *their* creations.

Hehe, actually, they should've put Tifa with Vincent (of course ;)), Aeris with Sephiroth, and Cloud with someone else -- Yuffie, Barret, Mukki, I don't care! :P

Listen, we all know that Cloud belongs to Mukki, okay? It's twue loooove. You can't deny such things. All these Tifa/Cloud and Aeris/Cloud fans are just mistaken! *cough* Ah, but such things are a different topic for a different kind of forum, my friends. ;}

Seriously, however, I can't really see Cloud with anyone. He's just too messed up. Er, a bit off topic, but the girls deserve better. Like, oh, I don't know... Vincent, perhaps? Barret? Uh, Cid?

Seriously, however, I can't really see Cloud with anyone. He's just too messed up. Er, a bit off topic, but the girls deserve better. Like, oh, I don't know... Vincent, perhaps? Barret? Uh, Cid?

I agree! He's handsome, yes, strong, no doubt about it. But he's got the emotional capability of a celery stick. I mean, he doesn't have to spout out sonnets or grow flowers out of his fingers, but c'mon! It's a pretty disturbing thing when the only two times I can remember him cracking a noticeable smile were at the end of FF7 when he's about to face-off with Sephiroth and that half-assed (pardon my French) one in Advent Children (not gonna say when).

Consider how he acts in the game, for instance. On the outside, he's callous and kind of laconic, but inside he's shy and sensitive. Zack was nothing like that in the flashback, or from what the people who knew him said about him. He was the showy guy, the big flirt (kinda like FF4's Edge).

But I agree, Cloud is a romantic disaster waiting to happen. After all the messing with his mind that Sephiroth did, he needs to sort himself out before he decides where his feelings lie. And really, that kind of damage may even be permanent. Though I guess one could argue that he ended all that when he had the mental one-on-one with Seph at the end....

That's why Cloud goes better with an emotionally "tough" character, like Aeris or Yuffie, someone who wouldn't be so easily hurt when he turns cold. Tifa's very sensitive; she'd bruise too easily. She needs someone with enough experience (and willingness) to respond to her sensitivity. Hence Vincent...and all the other myriad characters I like her paired with. :D

Well, that's the amazing story of how I became a fan. Not a very a good recount, but the story nonetheless.

I'm also like Faerlyte in that I have this thing for unorthodox pairings. At some point in time, canon became dull, and that's saying a lot because I'm usually very easily amused. =[ The idea of CloTi never really sent any sparks flying and whatnot, but I had shipped it because I thought it was the "official" pairing. I'd even semi-shipped Yuffentine, because that was what everyone else was doing. But, then I developed a taste for different points of view, and found out that I wasn't the only one who was, um, "touched by a different kind of angel". xD

While I'm at it, Jack of Spades, I wanna compliment your fanlisting. Great design and content.

Hmm well I honestly had never heard of the pair until stumbling upon the pairing forums on adventchildren.net. o_o then i was linked to feathers in the maelstrom and oh my lordy my heart was caught and adored them ever since.

Haha, nice to see someone else from ACF. Feathers is... indescribable. I was seriously hooked from the first chapter. Um, and I shall remain hooked..!

That's why Cloud goes better with an emotionally "tough" character, like Aeris or Yuffie, someone who wouldn't be so easily hurt when he turns cold. Tifa's very sensitive; she'd bruise too easily. She needs someone with enough experience (and willingness) to respond to her sensitivity. Hence Vincent...and all the other myriad characters I like her paired with. :D

Quoted for truth.

But I dont see them in along term thing cus wile they can work Tifa is too emotionaly soft for them to be together

That's why Cloud goes better with an emotionally "tough" character, like Aeris or Yuffie, someone who wouldn't be so easily hurt when he turns cold. Tifa's very sensitive; she'd bruise too easily. She needs someone with enough experience (and willingness) to respond to her sensitivity. Hence Vincent...and all the other myriad characters I like her paired with. :D

Thats why Vinti could not work long term for me however the fics like bleus are okay though cus make me beleive they have an real connection.

As far as a long term relationship, well...every girl has her limit and I'm sure Vincent would hit it at some point in time.

Man, I should be really dedicated to this pairing. But I've learned from experience that complete dedication borders rabidism, and I don't want to go there again.

(by the way, Jack of Spades, i love your VxT site.)

SO. ANYWAYS. my story is actually kind of...abrupt, should you call it. i just saw one (note: ONE) fanart of VinTifa...

and i was sold.

just ... like that. O_O; gosh i'm so shallow.

(if you're wondering, here: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/27351016/ all credit goes to YoukaiYume. :3 oou i love her art)

then tifa came along, and she liked the bumbling blondie. (i'm partial to dark haired men,except cid, and i guess it works in video games too) anyway, it was nice to see a dark haired dark eyed girl that could kick ass. i guess i thought she and vincent would be awesome for each other.

oh and chocobo goddess (i still wish she'd finish her story) was the one that hooked me the most. then i found penfeather and the plethora of other amazing writers. and thankfully it was about my favorite characters. though i also kinda like sephiroth and tifa... even though it's completely unusual.

I stumbled upon this pair during a Google search for Advent Children info. I remember trying to dig up dirt on whether Cloud was with Tifa or not, and there was a fansite for VinTi in the results. The pairing intrigued me for some reason—maybe because Vincent seemed so much deeper than Cloud, maybe because it was non-canon. Anyway, there was a link to a VinTi community here at ffnet, and I "followed the white rabbit." I think the first few pieces I read were thelittletree's stuff (naturally) and Vincent And The Art Of Stalking. I was hooked from then on.

Now that I've finally taken my own stab at writing the pair, I must say, they are quite the couple. Their personalities complement each other very well, I think. I tend to write a slightly less rigid Vincent, one capable of using dry humor and contractions in his conversations. My Tifa tends to bring him out of his comfort zone quite often. They're currently friends possibly on the verge of being lovers. *sigh*

I post off and on. Really, I don't have time to keep up with all the threads. I'm very busy with school and work.

...Well, I lie partly. This week I don't have work, but I can afford to be lazy now (at least during the day), so I'm taking advantage of it. ;)

Anyway, this is one of those threads that can and should be resurrected time and again. After all, this *is* a Vin/Tifa forum; I bet we're all a little curious about how we fell in love with the pairing.

O_O..... Oh my.... So I'm not the only one eh? I was just browsing through her works and found that pic and I started thinking.... "Those two look good together!" But that pic wasn't the only reason. Just call it the reason to pique my interest a little in the pairing.

First of all, just so everyone knows, up until just a few months before Advent Children came out, I knew practically NOTHING about Final Fantasy VII, aside from the fact that Could was the spikey haired blond guy with the big sword and the main protagonist, Sephiroth was the silver haired guy with the ridiculously long sword and the main antagonist, and that Cloud was in a love triangle with two girls, Aerith and Tifa, and that Aerith died and was more girly, and Tifa was more of a fighter. Oh, and that there was a red caped, long haired gunman named Vincent that could change forms, a blond smoking, foul mouthed pilot names Cid, and a hyper ninja named Yuffie. Yup, that was about it for my knowledge on Final Fantasy VII. Sad huh?

Anyway, after a while, my friends started going crazy for Advent Children, and I slowly started learning more about Final Fantasy VII's main story. At first, just like wth any other series I've read or watched, I was all for Cloud/Tifa. But, like with alot (not all) of other canon pairings, I began not liking the pairing.

Then, just after seeing that pic and watching Advent Children, I started researching about just Vincent and Tifa, and their background stories. After learning about Vincents story, I started reading Vincent/Tifa Fanfiction. And that's how I became a fan!

And I really do think Vincent would be good with Tifa. He is somewhat like Cloud, seeing as his love died and he's broody, but he also know's how it feels when the person you love/like doesn't eel the same way. Plus, Tifa's kind and helpful personality could help Vincent sort out with his own problems. Besides, I doubt he's completely over Aerith's death yet, and Cloud doesn't show too uch interest in Tifa romance wise.

That's how my RPG craze began. Of course, FF7 got me into FF8 which got me into FF9 and FF10 got me into FF10-2, but that's kind of irrelevant.

I'm here!! I'm not allowed to talk in forums so I have to be careful about when I do it. I know its bad to do it anyway, but its not like I'm picking up boys or anyhting here... o.O And now that school's started I have fewer chances to get online anyway...

I dunno where the other ficathon people went... I think there's still only one or maybe two more entries left...

But its good to see new people in this forum!!^_^ ...Even though its not mine... its my favorate forum...so... yeah. It still makes me happy too see more people!!!

http://waterbearer.net/vxt

Go to the fan art page; I have five pieces up there thus far (one of which is kind of subtle -- Tifa wearing Vincent's cloak; Vin's not in the picture), plus two little fan creations I got sent recently.

If anyone sees any Vin/Tifa artwork, could you email me the URL, or some way in which I can contact the artist? I'm trying to get a collection going.

I should probably get my own ass in gear, since I'm an artist as well.... But for some odd reason, I draw mostly canon pairings (whereas I write mostly off-canon ones).

Speaking of canon, here's something else I see coming up every now and then, which I feel the need to clarify:

1. Cloud x Aeris is NOT canon.

2. Cloud x Tifa is NOT canon.

A supporter of either pairing can make a lovely, convincing argument in its favor, but the bottom line is that Cloud's feelings are up to the player. The date mini-game is a sort of illustration of this. In fact, one's response choices early on in disc one continue to affect the game even into disc 2 (the conversation Tifa has with Cloud on the Highwind changes according to the player's affection value with her; some of you may know this already, but I found it out pretty recently).

Furthermore, Square Enix will never solve the triangle in any further add-ons to FFVII. If they do, they risk alienating a huge portion of the series' fanbase either way. We could go all the way up to "FFVII-12," for instance, but we'll never see Cloud's feelings for either woman be clarified. They'll always remain ambiguous. Take his treatment of Tifa in AC for instance (and vice-versa -- though to be honest, I didn't get the hint of anything romantic at all between the two, but that's just my opinion. I can see how someone can look at it another way. It's meant to be taken in many different ways. In fact, when asked about Cloud and Tifa's relationship in AC in an interview, Nomura was vague on the subject).

One thing that annoys me is when I hear Cloud/Tifa fans try to make it look like Cloud/Tifa is canon simply because Aeris is dead. Aeris dying doesn't mean that Cloud's emotions are going to jump to someone else -- that is, *if* he felt anything for her at all. Love doesn't die with a person. If one believes Cloud/Tifa is a better pairing, it should be because they feel that Cloud loved Tifa from the start. In that event, Aeris was merely a bit of a diversion. But Aeris' death is not symbolic of Tifa being the victor in the love triangle, or anything remotely like that. Aeris' death is symbolic of FFVII's life-vs.-death theme -- that's all.

Frankly, I can't see him with either one within the bounds of the movie and game. He's too screwed up to know what his feelings are.

But that doesn't stop me from trying to make a lovely plot out of it.

I'm just so sick of the whole debate over the love triangle; you'd think by now that Cloud/Tifa and Cloud/Aeris fans would leave each other alone. Stick to their own specific fansites and stop trying to preach their false gospels to a different choir that obviously won't listen.

But I guess all it takes is one person who just finished the game, who really believes in something, to freak out and think they can convert the entire fandom....

Where are all the grownups in this fandom?

They're hanging out in the VincentXTifa forum, of course. ;)

It's a sweet little story, well not really, first I must point out that from all FF7 Vincent and Tifa were my favorite characters, Vincent is the typical mystery, emo, dark guy and I was pretty much oggling at him and it became a permanent in my party, Tifa, well as ashamed as I'm to admit it I started to like her because she reminded me a bit to Rinoa (that's my favorite FF series femal character) and I had played FF8 before I played FF7, anyway I then started to notice that I just loved how they worked out the character.

Yet that's not when I started to ship them, I, like everyone that has played the game, noticed the love triangle between Aeris x Cloud x Tifa, the more I watched the more I thought...this is not a love triangle its obvious that Cloud have the hots for Aeris and viceversa and poor Tifa is out of the equation. Then Aeris died and still Tifa didn't got any ground with Cloud beyond that of closer friends, Cloud never stopped loving Aeris, let's face it so I started to think, nah, Tifa needs some loving too and a man to get on with her life.

And there I thought of Vincent, quickly I realized they will make a great couple, not only by looks, which they both have, but also their love lifes are not that different, both were kind in the end of unreciprocal love one because the object of her affections loved someone else and the other because his objects of affection felt to much guilt to properly love him, so that can probably bring them closer and make them understand each other since they kind of share the same pain, she might fully help him to get rid of all his demons and settle while he can show her that there are more men that Cloud and he can give her some stability, that sometimes Cloud lacks.

So there...VinTi is the perfect couple...suddendly I feel the need to make a Ship Manifesto

New person here! (And still not entirely sure about how to function things in a forum... XD)

How did I fall in love with VinTi? Yes, I thought I was the only one who was sad enough to simply fall in love after seeing the "bunny kiss" fanart (*is shot* XD). What makes my story even the more sadder is the fact that practically had not even the faintest clue of what FFVII was about, neither did I know what Final Fantasy was (besides it being a game), nor did I even know the characters' names (indeed, a very true and tragic tale). Basically, I had no idea what on earth FFVII was, nor did I understand what the latest craze about this "unnamed" game (to me at the time, I never paid attention to the latest crazes, sadly enough).

So, I never got into FFVII or VinTi--to put simply, I didn't even bother to venture out and complete some research or anything to aid my ignorance on the topic--and the only way that I was truly introduced to the FF series was through playing FFX and falling in love with the game. After that I decided to give getting to know VII a shot and watched AC and Last Order (memorised the names of the characters I liked--namely, Tifa and Vincent, especially Vincent XD) but never truly understood it because I still had no idea what VII was about (having still not played the game, though that did not hinder me in reviving my VinTi love and reading through some fics despite not knowing what half of them meant by "after meteor" and "AVALANCHE" and etc.), so instead of continuing to develop an understanding of VII (and quitting the fics because I was so darn lazy and just didn't understand references or terms used in the game), I went on to play X-2, III, XII, Fun Tactics and only just this year, did I actually begin to play VII, believe it or not. And let me just say, I've gotten my brothers and sister interested in VII (we've all played X and some of the others). Now that I have awakened my love for another FF title, my love for VinTi has grown and over the past few days, I've been scouring the internet for anything on them (not really fics, because it takes me forever to get through fanfiction, and I'm still attempting to finish the game ^^; )

Anyways... should really stop blabbering right about now... just wanted to through my two cents in to revive this forum, XD.

I was kind of skeptical when I saw the pair but as I started reading they have a lot in common. Its still unknown if there's something between Cloud and Tifa, but if not.....Vincent and Tifa share the broken heart. And they can both lean on other in their own. What better way to heal?

The pairing reminds me of Disney's "Beauty and the Beast". You have you're kind and compassonate Belle, aka Tifa and you succlusive Beast, being Vincent. Vincent harbours a dark hate for Shinra and has a demon living inside of him while Tifa cares about everyone and everything and willing to do her best just to make sure that everything works out. Were they meant for eachother? Both are keeping their emotions in check while life moves on around them. Tifa conceals her feelings with a plastic smile while Vincent keeps a firm grimmace on his face at all times. They seem to mesh together, both unconciously helping eachother resolve their feelings of alone and emptiness. Not to mention they have similar love lives. Lucrecia ran off with Hojo, Cloud ran off with Aerith, Lucrecia cmmits suicide and Aerith get murdered by the man who could've been Vincent's son. VIncent and Tifa only wishedd that the people they loved would be happy, even if it meant a lifetime of misery.

My appoligies, I'm babling on, it's almost 4 am now.

When did I start liking this pairing? about 3ish years ago. My girlfriend at the time got me hooked. Also, I think Tifa is awsome. Another reason is that I relate to Vincent. Not mermory wise, but rather tall man with dark hair blending into the shadows... sarcastic humor...

perusing old forums. it's nice to see it still alive. :)

it's nice to see it still alive. :)

Or at least still on life support. ;)

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