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Kakera7
Topic: Anybody get why it's called D.Gray-man??
I have my suspitions, but not quite sure "why" it is D.Gray-man...

I'm guessin becuz of the D from the time Allen recovered his left eye?

Also guessing it means "Darkness" from what Mana say...

What do you think?

#1 Jan 20th 2007, 3:48pm
Momo-chan X3
yea, then whats with the 'gray' part?
#2 Jan 22nd 2007, 3:58pm
Kakera7
That's what I'm tryin to figure out...
#3 Jan 22nd 2007, 5:57pm
Momo-chan X3
oh....
#4 Jan 22nd 2007, 6:03pm
Scarlet Ookami
A question was asked by a fan that asked this same question. They say the answer in volume 3.

=^.^=

#5 Jan 25th 2007, 5:29pm
Black Violin
I read that. They said that it was just a random thing...or something like that.
#6 Feb 13th 2007, 8:25am
Kakera7
...*reads over manga*

Might be true..

But it's gotta have some meaning to it....

#7 Feb 13th 2007, 3:32pm
Black Violin
Maybe.
#8 Feb 23rd 2007, 7:41am
Scarlet Ookami
Maybe it has something to do with Allen's curse? I could have sworn I saw a D on that skull that came out of Allen's head in vol 4. That was his curse, right?

But I have absolutly no idea what the "gray" part means...

#9 Feb 23rd 2007, 7:52am . Edited Feb 23rd 2007, 7:53am
Toitsu Dragoness of Unity
I believe the gray referse to the fact that ALlen sees the world in black and white. The black is the akuma souls, the white is the regular world, like it shows in volume 4 at the end, when his curse comes back in full force. But the more he learns, the more the two sides blend. Black and white make gray after all. So Gray is the symbol of two sides blending, as Allen finds out the world and life isn't just black and white.
#10 Feb 27th 2007, 6:12am
Scarlet Ookami
O_O

Okay... I think you're right.

#11 Feb 27th 2007, 7:39am
Kakera7
Sounds right...
#12 Mar 01st 2007, 1:17pm
Momo-chan X3
I remembered this from ep 21. when allen got his eye back, there was a skull with 'D' on it. then mana told him about the world of light and darkness. Gray. and allen's a guy. it can't be mana becuase even though they say man in english, in chinese, being more precise in wording, they say 'shao nian' which means boy. so its allen.
#13 Mar 06th 2007, 6:49pm
Greece
Apart from the world Allen sees with his eyes, I think that the particular colour, gray, has to do with all the characters in the manga. Think about it. No one there is only evil or only good. Not even Allen himself. Not even the Noahs. Not even the Akuma.

.:Spoilers:.

Allen is called "The Destroyer of Time" (It refers to the Millenium Earl) a rather horrifying nickname. Plus, Rinali has seen a dream about the destruction of the HQ of the Dark Religion Organisation. If you notice, Allen is lying on her lap, covered, but we can see his red arm, so we know it's him. I don't believe that this is some kind of possible future, since Rinali has long hair and now they're short. I believe it's what Rinali fears the most: Destruction from Allen.

Not to mention that Allen saw exactly the same when he "died", but from the opposite side. It certainly has to do with this eye of his. Plus, when he tried to reach the image of her, someone caught his hand, someone who looked like an opposite him, with a smile that reminding the Earl's smile.

We have seen him going berserk and he acted like an Akuma: Just like Akuma want to kill, kill humans, Allen wants to kill, kill the Akuma. Both drunk in the sense of destruction, both wanting to kill.

As he had said to Bak, "I'm a weapon" and not just because he's a parasyte type. Can you say that Allen is any different from an Akuma in this case? No. But, we do say that the Akuman are "bad" or "evil". For Allen, is the case of "too much power in a too small body". Very dangerous, and not only for the enemies.

And what about his final form? He became a "Crowned Clown" and the Earl does look like a clown. In the manga, their similarity is obvious, there's even a cover with them side by side and they look so alike.

Moreover, not even the Noahs are totally evil. According to them, they are Noah's children and Noah WAS God's first apostole. What he did? He let everybody else drown and saved only his own family. And we say that Apostoles are "good" and "saints", but not the Noahs? Plus, they have their own truth about this world. They believe that humans are the bad ones. And they're not so wrong, if you think how the human race has polluted the world. It's like the Noah's flood is repeating itself: All the humans destroyed, save for the Noah family. But, we say that this destruction was "good". What if it's the same case here?

Think about Eliade. She was an Akuma, but she clearly had feelings for Crowley. It was her wish to find a man to be with, and she had accepted the fact that he was suppposed to kill her, since she was an Akuma. In ch 109, her soul encourages him to go on fighting, something "good". Yet, she is an Akuma, something "bad".

.:End of Spoilers:.

All in all, no one in this story is 100% good or a 100% bad. There's only gray and Allen is the living proof of this, both because he sees and because he is.

#14 Mar 13th 2007, 3:54am . Edited Mar 13th 2007, 3:56am
Kakera7
Wow...

That's deep but true,,,,,

#15 Mar 14th 2007, 12:45pm
Kingofengland
and the fact that he says when he gets the crown clown that "he loves akuma and humans" and whod oes that so I say it is safe to asume that he is inbetween humans and akuma he is cursed and has an antiakuma weapon he also is related to the traitor noah and is still an exhorsist so he literally is in the middle of everything that is why the author chose the name D.gray-man
#16 Apr 13th 2007, 11:31am
Momo-chan X3
but he's not related to the traitor noah...
#17 Apr 13th 2007, 11:36am
Kingofengland
yes he is the earl says so when there in edo japan looking for cross he say everyone on tyki's list is related to the noah but allen's name is on that list so is cross's
#18 Apr 13th 2007, 11:38am
Momo-chan X3
but that's just a theory. they don't know which human the noah gave it to. the earl just thinks it's cross from all his knowledge and he fears allen may know the same since cross was his master...well not exactly...it's just that allen is prophecized(sp?) as the destroyer of time to cause the earl's demise thus making the earl want him dead.
#19 Apr 13th 2007, 11:52am
Kingofengland
no the noah and allen are related!
#20 Apr 13th 2007, 12:04pm
Momo-chan X3
he never said they were related!
#21 Apr 13th 2007, 12:07pm
Kingofengland
yes he said "that everyone on the list was related to the traitor noah and allen was on that list listen to THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#22 Apr 13th 2007, 12:16pm
Momo-chan X3
BECAUSE HE'S RELATED TO CROSS AND CROSS IS RELATED TO THE NOAH FROM THEORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#23 Apr 13th 2007, 12:21pm
Kingofengland
no he's not he's related directly to the noah!
#24 Apr 13th 2007, 12:35pm
Momo-chan X3
no hes not! read it over!
#25 Apr 13th 2007, 1:49pm
Kingofengland
Okay you HE'S ON THE FRICKIN' LIST OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
#26 Apr 13th 2007, 2:11pm
Momo-chan X3
?
#27 Apr 13th 2007, 4:57pm
Kingofengland
the list shows everyone related to that noah and allen's on the list!
#28 Apr 13th 2007, 5:33pm
Momo-chan X3
? that still doesn't mean directly...^^?
#29 Apr 13th 2007, 5:37pm
Kingofengland
well maybe his father was related or something momo
#30 Apr 13th 2007, 6:16pm
Momo-chan X3
no one knows his real father and Mana wasn't related to the earl except in becoming an akuma. So it's actually cross. WHICH IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU FOR THIS WHOLE TIME.
#31 Apr 13th 2007, 6:18pm
Kingofengland
NO he IS related to the Noahs just reread the chapter when they are in edo momo
#32 Apr 13th 2007, 6:20pm
Momo-chan X3
okay. this is the last time I'll ever be replying to you. I agree with you when you say he is related to the Noahs. It's just that the Earl never said directly. So allen may or may not be directly related to the Noahs. (not blood wise) Meaning he can be related INdirectly. SO PLEASE. SHUT UP NOW. I HAVE A PAPER TO WRITE THAT'S DUE ON FRIDAY. ^^'...sigh
#33 Apr 13th 2007, 6:26pm
Momo-chan X3
AND A BIRTHDAY PICTURE TO COLOR AND PRINT BEFORE SATURDAY....(sorry. you can delete this if you like. I just needed to vent. So I ranted on forums...^^;)
#34 Apr 13th 2007, 6:33pm
Greece
*sigh* The hell with that argue...

Now: The list the Earl gave to Tiki was a list with all the relations of the traitorious Noah's and Cross Marian's. No, the fact that the human whom the Noah gave the right to guide the Ark to was a theory of the Earl's. Now, IF Cross IS that one human, of course Allen is related, since he was Cross' student.

However, this for far relation has nothing to do either with Allen's double nature, or why the color "gray" (between black and white) exists. It's not even a solid point.

Allen loves the Akuma for he's the only one who can understand their pain and MOSTLY because he himself made his father one. For that, he's a sinner and he tries to find forgiveness (not from God, but from himself) by loving Akuma, thus killing them, by loving humans, thus saving them.

BTW, in ch 113, there's another hint for Allen's evil side: Tiki calls him "White Demon". Now, in Japan, there is a lot of tradition about demons. They are not always related to the evil, simply to magic. However, D.Gray-man, being based off Christianism, relates them as they are in this religion, thus Allen is called something "evil". Not by nature, but by the gigantic powers he has. A WHITE devil, something between evil (devil) and good (the color white).

#35 Apr 14th 2007, 5:09am
Momo-chan X3
YES. FINALLY. that is what I've been trying to say the whole time.
#36 Apr 14th 2007, 12:33pm
Kingofengland
fine maybe you are right
#37 Apr 14th 2007, 1:27pm
Momo-chan X3
sigh. okay. don't mess with the otaku....okay. so maybe sometimes im wrong...^^;okay. a lot.
#38 Apr 14th 2007, 5:52pm
Kingofengland
thanks friends?
#39 Apr 14th 2007, 6:55pm
Momo-chan X3
sure.
#40 Apr 14th 2007, 7:13pm
Kingofengland
^-^ yeah now i'll put you on my favorite authors list and thanks for the argue/discussion
#41 Apr 14th 2007, 9:51pm
Greece
That's what the forums are about. You sould know that learning how to respect a different opinion is the most important thing. I learned this from varial forums. I have recieved a lot of opinions that became mine in the end. Use arguments and we can dicuss things better than just shouting at each other, ne? ^^
#42 Apr 15th 2007, 1:08am
Kingofengland
Hey greece want to be friends? please
#43 Apr 15th 2007, 11:24am
Greece
Don't get me wrong, but I make friends only through fanfiction. That means, if you write well, I'll add you into my favourite authors. After all, this is a fanfiction site, not a site dedicated to the anime/books/shows it has as categories. So, I'll read first.
#44 Apr 16th 2007, 5:24am
Kingofengland
don't no how to download keeps saying error got any tips
#45 Apr 16th 2007, 4:01pm
Momo-chan X3
for posting the story? then wait. could be an error in the server. happened to me a LOT of times. ** me off.
#46 Apr 16th 2007, 4:13pm
Kingofengland
And it still dosen't work AHHHHHHHHHHHHH*cries next to momo
#47 Apr 16th 2007, 6:26pm
Kingofengland
It worked please read my story it's called the tales of a traveler
#48 Apr 16th 2007, 8:24pm
Greece
I couldn't read it because it was so badly written. No punctuation, no capitals, no paragraphs...

Sorry, but no, as long as it's in this format. Work on it and I'll give it a try later.

#49 Apr 18th 2007, 5:14am
Kingofengland
sorry I'll try harder greece
#50 Apr 18th 2007, 6:59am


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