Strange, Smart, Observing: Matt - Quirky, Dedicated, Devious: Our Main Loves Forum

Topic: Strange, Smart, Observing: Matt

This is a topic for the discussion of that loyal assitant Matt. Try to keep the spoilers on a minimum, hm? (I felt bad that Matt didn't have one, since he's becoming my new favorite and such :])

#1 Mar 26th 2007, 7:24pm

Ah Matt. Ive how they gave him a pretty much random, but real name. I love his character and I cannot only say anything bad about him. Plus, his #1 Like is Video Games! How can you not love that?

#2 Mar 31st 2007, 3:02pm

I know. I think that Matt is realistic, not like some other characters, you know? Most of the others have weird qualities, like Mello's chocolate addiction, L's strange way of sitting, and Near's toys. Don't even get me started on Light... He's insane!

#3 Apr 09th 2007, 2:32pm

Yay, someone to argue with. Look, Matt may be presented more realistically. Yet, do not allow yourself to think that Mello, Near, L, and Light are NOT realistic. Light goes through a phychological process which is perfectly examined by L in Vol. 2. His ideas and movements are normal, to a stereotypical pinpoint. L, Mello, and Near are all pretty stereotypical too! Most geniuses seem to have an abnormal quality in their life. Einstien was horrible at things that did not involve numbers or patterns. Plus, he was very hypocitical. Then, Poe, a literary genius, was plagued by illness and misfortune which fueled his impressive stories. Almost every "genius' has something holding them back or an abnormal quality. Light, is oddly, an exception. He has been gifted with a wonderful life in some aspects. However, he is CHILDISH! As are most reasoning people. It can be coated with pleasentries and mannerisms, but most intelligent people are childish because of an almost abnormal desire to compete and be the best. (Abnormal in that smart people are rarely sport motivated.) The tennis thing of L and Light is also stereotypical for a genius. Several genius are good at strategy sports, but pass off their talent in order to obtain the thing which they desire most. They are all very realistic, odd, but realistic.

#4 Apr 10th 2007, 7:04pm

I'm not saying it's a bad thing! I actually like sitting like L, and eating chocolate! Also, I knew those things!

#5 Apr 11th 2007, 1:58pm

I'll have to agree with that statement, dear friend, Lawliet. I think that Mello, Matt, Near, L, and Raito are all extremely realistic characters, for a manga.

Take Raito for example. When he first killed someone, he went into a state of shock for a few days, appalled at himself for performing such an act. However, after that he seemed quite all right with it, almost habitually murdering people after that, not just criminals, but even the FBI agents and Takada and Mello later on. (Even though he felt that anyone going against Kira deserved death, and Kiyomi was useless to him after that.)

I could continue with Raito, however this is a Matt post. Matt is a VERY real character. He's loyal to Mello in so many ways, always doing exactly what the blond wants him to do, to a fault really. It did get him killed in the end, but his devotion was almost unreal. It's so difficult to find friends that devoted like Matt was, to risk his LIFE for someone he completely and totally believed in until the very end. He trusted Mello's judgment that they wouldn't kill him, however even though they did, he died trusting in Mello's intellect. They had to have been amazingly close friends, because Mello even apologized to him for his death. "I didn't know that they'd kill you. I'm so sorry." I was in tears at this point, because Matt was my favorite, however Mello saying that... it's not something you hear everyday. Matt was his best friend, and his death was probably the hardest thing for the genius to take (2nd only to L's.) Okay, I'm done. No severe arguing please :D.

#6 Apr 14th 2007, 4:20pm

That was a well thought out, brilliant statement Mihael. I am really amazed, but you put some of my thoughts to words.

Let me quote L:

"I could fall for you, you know?" (DN v. 6 pg. 49)

[I am sure you will quote Misa on v. 6 p. 49 "Er...no thanks..." lol.)

#7 Apr 15th 2007, 8:55am . Edited Apr 15th 2007, 8:55am

Aww, thanks *blush*

I shall quoteth Misa, "Let's just say we are friends."

You see, I love falling into people's characters and just exploring them (not surprising considering psychology is a major class I take.) Near, Mello, and Matt are my all time favorites to just delve into, though especially Matt. He's so intriguing a character, and I totally fell in love with him the moment I saw him in the front seat of Mello's car. His clothes, his video game fetish, his unwavering loyalty, all are qualties that I think are important (not so much the video game thing, but whatever. I love video games :D) And the fact that he was friends with Mello is something hard to believe. I mean, you must have a LOT in common with the blond (or just an uncanny ability to take orders, whichever comes first), to be as good as friends with him as Matt was.

I miss you Matt! My cosplay doesn't do you justice!

***SPOILER ALERT***

I would like to also ask, does anyone know the exact date of Matt's death? I really need it. Was it January 1st, like Mello's? Or did he die a few days earlier? Thanks :D.

#8 Apr 15th 2007, 2:22pm . Edited Apr 16th 2007, 8:22pm

Well...his real name is:

SPOILER!!!!

Mail Jeevas according to vol. 13. I can't find his date of Death. Check vol. 11, Chapter 99's date of occurence. That is the correct chapter of death....

#9 Apr 17th 2007, 9:32pm

Well, assuming the end of the timeskip is exactly 6 years after L's death, Matt's death would take place sometime around December 25, on Christmas.

#10 Apr 18th 2007, 4:22pm

I don't think Mello'd keep Takada in that truck for almost a week, naked. I think it was either one day earlier or on the same day. If you read volume 13, it's confirmed that Mello died on January first, so I think Matt was either December 31 or the same day as the blond.

#11 Apr 18th 2007, 6:47pm

We know, at the very least, it was before Mello.

#12 Apr 19th 2007, 12:39pm

Yeah, I really miss him to tell you the truth. Matt was one of my absolute favorite characters (as aforementioned) despite lack of any real panel time. He was dedicated and laid back, and he was just the epitome of "cool." He really was a special kind of character, even though he has no REAL back story. It's actually quite fun to fabricate such things for characters, which I'm doing right now in a back story I'm creating for Near :D.

#13 Apr 19th 2007, 3:03pm

Matt was a character worthy of remembrance, and I'm sure we all miss him sorely. I mean, who doesn't like the Hot Topic spokesperson?

#14 Apr 20th 2007, 12:19pm

Surfing the web and found some great sites! If you have any particularly strong fetish for Matt/Mello as I do, go to http://www.palindromethree.com/mm/. It's a very good fansite dedicated to the two of them, and I really like it :]. It's called "Broken Heroes". And if you're one of the few people who are fans of Matt/Misa go to http://www.palindromethree.com/vanity/ which is another amazing fansite; it's called Vanity. :] Enjoy and don't forget to keep my forum ALIVE :D. Love y'all!

#15 Apr 20th 2007, 3:51pm

Ah, random sites...

good work.

Speaking of good work,

did anyone ever specify his date of death...?

#16 Apr 21st 2007, 1:14am

No, no one ever found it. I don't think it was ever specified ;o;. And I really need it for one of my stories too. Shoot! However, if anyone ever finds out, it will be appreciated greatly because I would like to keep my stuff accurate.

#17 Apr 21st 2007, 9:17am

Matt died on January 26th, if I'm reading this right. *hugs her copy of Death Note 13* Mello dies the same day, btw.

#18 Apr 21st 2007, 10:36am . Edited Apr 21st 2007, 10:38am

January 26th? Really? I read on deathgod.org that Mello died January first! Ok, then thanks for that kamiringo-chan! I appreciate it!

#19 Apr 21st 2007, 12:54pm

You're welcome. ^^

And that's rather odd, considering that they seem to have gotten the rest of their info on Mello from book 13. I wonder why...?

#20 Apr 21st 2007, 6:27pm

See Mihael, as I said in another Forum, it seems even DeathGod.org is wrong sometimes. That is why I refuse to credit DeathNoteBoy's claim.

#21 Apr 21st 2007, 10:13pm

I suppose. Arigatou! :D.

Back on task with Matt, I don't think that he really deserved to die. I mean, really, he did die for Mello which was simply amazing as far as their close friendship went. But I wish that... he could've helped Mello win, you know? I think I stated this on the Mello board, but I wanted Mello to win from the very start. It would have been perfect if he could've, but it turns out that he was just another casualty in the Kira case. Stupid Raito. Killing off people and having other people kill off my favorite characters.

#22 Apr 22nd 2007, 8:27am

"Stupid Raito. Killing off people and having other people kill off my favorite characters" (Mihael).

lol...that is funny...

Well, Mello couldn't win, the way he lived kind of prevented that from being an appropriate end...

#23 Apr 22nd 2007, 6:01pm

deathgod.org apparently can be wrong, and it's perfectly reasonable for you to be suspicious like that. We also have to take in the possibility of human error; assuming that kamaringo-chan is not Japanese, otherwise it would be highly unlikely that she would misread something in her own language (just stating the facts).

#24 Apr 23rd 2007, 12:48am . Edited Apr 23rd 2007, 12:48am

Um, thanks for being Mastuda and explaining my reasoning for people who can't spell it out.

LOL, jk,

I know you are just defending Kamiringo-chan. Hey, I just thought of something...

Boy, I am basing this simply on your time of inputting messages, your absence over the weekend..., do you not own a computer and write this stuff in at school? I am curious..., sorry for intruding....

#25 Apr 23rd 2007, 9:46pm

It's okay to be curious! Anyway, on the weekends, I have to be dragged down to my mother's beach house, where there's no computer. I do too own a computer! It's flat screen! Oh man, we're going off on a tangent! Why does this always happen!?!?!?!

#26 Apr 24th 2007, 12:54pm

I dunno, beach house trumps PC...

Well, unless you are Matt.

(BTW, I did at least say that I really have no basis...hehe, still. I want to know what you typed that insulted me!)

#27 Apr 24th 2007, 4:15pm

Talk about seriously paying attention. I hadn't even noticed. I suppose I wouldn't make a very good detective O.o;;.

And I would be sad if I had to be away from my computer so long. I would probably back everything up onto lappy and take that with me. All my fanfiction are on here!

Back on task, yeah it wouldn't have fit if Mello had won. Near... it seems was the better choice for winning, and it's kind of good, because he did do it for Mello and L, because they were killed by Kira. But still, you have to admit, Mello was a very dynamic character. Original and intriging, until the very end. ; ;. I was practically in love with Mello (though Matt... kind of beat him.)

What really bothers me about Matt's random entrance is that there's no back story, nothing. We just see him in Volume ten in the front seat of Mello's car and then they're partners after that. No idea where he came from or what his deal is, only that he's Mello's friend and knew him sometime before. Mello wouldn't trust someone the way he trusted Matt if they JUST met, so it would make sense...

I am talking about Canon volumes 1-12 here. Obviously in 13 it says that Matt lived in Wammy's House and was third in line for L, but that does not explain why he decided to take so damn long getting his butt in gear and hopping on this case. Was it because he was so lazy? Or did he want to wait until Mello asked for his help? Perhaps he didn't want any part of it. Regardless of his reasoning, the most important part is that he's here, and is a great character in himself :D.

#28 Apr 24th 2007, 4:54pm

Umm... Don't delete this Mihael, DL wants to know what I said. He's okay with it.

Anyway, DetectveLawliet, I just happened to say something to the effect of this:

NOBODY FRIGGIN' ASKED YOU! I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT THE HELL YOU THINK OF YOURSELF, BUT DON'T GO AROUND BOASTING ABOUT YOUR SO-CALLED 'ADORABLE' MOOD SWINGS! GAHHHHH!

There, I said it.

#29 Apr 25th 2007, 1:03pm

Aww, I wish I saw this....

because my response would be:

"I'm not cute...?"

lol

back to Matt

I wonder what he would like about the Wii, Xbox 360, or PS3.

#30 Apr 25th 2007, 7:16pm

I think your mood swings are cute ; ;. If that doesn't sound too weird :].

He would totally want the Wii, hands down. Unless he wanted Guitar Hero, then he'd definately steal the 360. Like, I'd steal both if I could, so he might too... :D

As for what he'd like about them, he probably wouldn't care, I don't think. As long as he can play them, he's prolly all right with having any (or all).

#31 Apr 25th 2007, 8:10pm . Edited Apr 25th 2007, 8:11pm

*IM CUTE!!!)

I hope he would. Seriously, someone start a new arguement...

This is a little...bland...

#32 Apr 26th 2007, 4:27pm

It depends. Are you a guy? Cause I don't swing that way! I'm not gay!!!!!! Guys=not cute to me (except L, he's hard not to love...)!

#33 Apr 27th 2007, 6:51am . Edited Apr 27th 2007, 6:53am

Wow, you really can't tell? (Besides, I was talking to Mihael, who is a girl.

START A DISSCUSSION!!!

#34 Apr 27th 2007, 9:43pm

Oh... I'll just go die now...

#35 Apr 27th 2007, 10:45pm

Make sure it is ironic!

(Don't die, you contribute!)

#36 Apr 28th 2007, 10:05am

Now people are dying on my forums ; ;

*Ahem* Okay, what's your take on Matt wearing goggles? When I was searching around for people's opinions, because I really didn't know WHAT to think, I read one of Flamika's stories and it was stated that Matt has sensitive eyes, and those keep the sunlight dim enough for them. I actually think that would be pretty accurate to say the least. It seems that might be the case, since he never seems to take them off.

#37 Apr 28th 2007, 9:19pm

Actually, ravers typically wear goggles because of lights at parties(lasers and such). It might be that Matt wears them during long video game playing. (He does not wear them all the time outside.... I don't think.)

#38 Apr 28th 2007, 10:35pm

Well, he's wearing them outside when he went to follow Misa, and when he died he was still wearing them. Either he's a hard core raver and won't take them off for anything (to make his image complete) or for other reasons, like Flamika asserted his has sensitive eyes. :]

#39 Apr 29th 2007, 1:31pm

Maybe they were some sort of gift... Like from his deceased mother, and now he never takes them off so he can remember her.

#40 Apr 30th 2007, 12:58am

Because of previous tangents and such, no one had responded to this:

"I am talking about Canon volumes 1-12 here. Obviously in 13 it says that Matt lived in Wammy's House and was third in line for L, but that does not explain why he decided to take so damn long getting his butt in gear and hopping on this case. Was it because he was so lazy? Or did he want to wait until Mello asked for his help? Perhaps he didn't want any part of it. Regardless of his reasoning, the most important part is that he's here, and is a great character in himself :D." (Mihael Keehl)

What are your opinions, when you omit the "regardless of his reasoning" part? Why do you think it took so long?

#41 Apr 30th 2007, 2:33pm

The only people in all of Whammy house aware that L was dead is Mello and Near, unless they found out outside of Canon. Also, you cannot leave Whammy house until you are 15. Maybe Matt was not fifteen.

#42 Apr 30th 2007, 6:05pm

Where did you find the "can't leave Wammy's until age 15" thing? Because I don't remember that from anywhere...

#43 May 02nd 2007, 9:21am

Mello wasn't either. If you recall, he said he was ALMOST fifteen. Maybe Matt didn't know what Mello was going to do, and didn't know L was dead. If he did know L was dead, then he probably could have surmised what Mello was planning, and either tried to stop him or went with him.

By the way, I'm in my ultra sexy L costume. I feel smarter just because I look like him :3.

#44 May 02nd 2007, 2:27pm

Actually, if you look at the whole context, Mello stated the following in response to a request that he and Near work teogether as L, "No thanks, Near can be L's successor. He will solve the puzzle without emotion. I am, however, leaving. It doesn't matter, I am almost fifteen anyway."

That indicates the children can leave the orphanage after turning fifteen. That statement is what I base my hypothesis on.

#45 May 02nd 2007, 6:47pm

And everyone completely ignores me...

#46 May 03rd 2007, 12:48pm

Hmm... I had assumed that that meant he thought he was old enough to take care of himself. But that'd work too. *shrug* Thank you.

#47 May 04th 2007, 6:25pm

I considered that pssibility, but I figured Mello would say he can take care oh himself rather than say it in a round about way. Your theory, however, is josr as good. I will try to look into it. Sorry, using on board keyboard at work . . .

#48 May 05th 2007, 3:57pm

Well, I figure that even though he's impulsive, he's not gonna say "I'm old enough to take care of myself" because it sounds really childish, and I think he would know better. But that's just a passing thought. XD

#49 May 05th 2007, 5:52pm