To get the ball roling, who is your favorite character(s) in the game? My favorite characters are Oki, Susano, Tzusurao, Waka, Issun and of course, Ammy herself. ^^

Well with that said, I've a question to ask, we all know that Ammy is atleast spiritually female but what about the other zodiac gods?

The pig god (can't remember the name) is definetly male right? I mean he's a boar for crying out loud!

And the hanagami (monkeys gods) are brothers so they must all be male.

And the rabbit! (Yumigami?) must be male too, because it's the one pounding the mochi (sticky rice paste) and men pound mochi.

Ok apart from that I had no idea what genders the others are. I know Clover is trying to made them genderless but that's weird. At least spiritually they MUST have a gender! What do you think they are?

Now see, to me the game is essentially a myth told in a different format. Mythology at it's core is ABOUT the fundamental struggle between good and evil and always seems to be searching for the perfect hero (And as of late, and in the case, the heroine) In some cases it finds it, and in others (usually tragedies) It doesn't.

All I'm saying is that Sue/Stu like tendencies are surprisingly enough at the core of literature. It's what we take from them and add to them that give us 3 dimensional characters.

....Wait....What am I arguing? Now I'm confused. What was your question?...Did ya have one? Oh yeah, the gender thing.

I got a definite all male thing out of MOST of the Brush Gods (Although shamefully I haven't completed the game in full, so I'm not too sure. Workin' on it) Their voice squeaks are mostly dark and deep so I'm just assuming...

Now for the gender thing, I don't think voice squeaks are that reliable. I mean Otohime in her dragon form's voice is awfully deep and dark too. Maybe it's just a god thing to sound like that? Then again, there the animal sound issue. The mouse god's voice (Tachigami?) is really high pitched and all, but that doesn't guarantee it's female. Could you imagine a mouse's squeaks being dark and deep even when it's male? So over all, I don't think voice squeaks are THAT liable . . . even if it's one of the few things we could use as an evidence.

P.S. Do snakes squeak? It's just that when I heard the snake god's voice (if you could call the sound the characters made a voice), it's sound feminine . . . and I don't know if snakes suppose to sound like that or not. I mean could they even made a sound other than hissing.

Ammy-female

Yomigami:god of rejuv.-male

Tachigami:god of slash-male

Hanagami:god of greensprout-all male

Bakugami:god of explosions-male

Nuregami:god of water-female

Yumigami:god of moon-female

Kazegami:god of wind-male

Moegami:god of fire-male

Kasigami:god of mist-female

Kabegami:god of walls-female

Gekigami:god of thunder-male

Itegami:god of ice-male

OK, so all of you may already know this but I felt like telling it anyway.

*deep breath* They made an Okami section now! I'm so happy! Now people will write more Okami stories.

Pass it on! Pass it on! Let's gather all okami stories there.

Well enough said, let's go back to the question I've started much earlier...

The mystery of the Brush Gods' Gender!

Ammy - definetly female. I don't care what people at the site which shall remain nameless say about Ammy being in a male's wolf form. Ammy's body is so much smaller than Oki, she MUST be in female body. (Okay, I know Shiranui's body is bigger, but compare to Oki she is still smaller) What's wrong with gaping because of another girl? I know she has gaped at Rao and Kaguya, but both could be merely intrepret as surprise. And the tauting technique thing? It could be that the producers is unaware that male and female dogs unrinate differently. (well I don't, before) Plus I've noticed that many people like to refer to others who they don't know their gender as a he. So Susano's brother in arms stuff don't count.

Yumigami (rabbit)- Male, because of mochi pounding

Tachi'(mouse)- ?

Hana'(monkeys)- Male, because of brothers

Baku'(boar)- Male, well he's a boar

Nure'(snake)- Female, real snakes don't squeak

Yomi'(dragon)- ?

Kaze'(horse)- ?

Moe'(bird)- ?

Kasi'(sheep)- Male?

Kabe'(cat)- Female?

Geki'(tiger)- Male?

Ite'(ox)- Male? He's a bull right?

I don't remember anything about Rao though. So nevertheless, we have more than enough evidence that's Ammy female. Wait, *look at what she has typed* come to think of it . . . only characters with spiritual powers refer to Ammy as female. Interesting...

P.S. You've already finish the game right? Or atleast get pass the spirt gate? I truly hope I didn't spoil anything for you!

Yeah, the forum I've previously refer to do mention something about the handbook and genderless Ammy. Although, since the real Amaterasu is widely represent as female... well we could always says Ammy's spiritually female. Anyway, I remember that there're more times other characters refer to Ammy as female than male. Like when the Brush Gods and Sakuya call Ammy 'mother', the ghost priest guy (at Kusa Village) call her 'fair maiden', Waka's 'ma chérie' (my friend who's studying French says it's female term for 'my darling') and Issun nicknaming her 'Ammy' (which is obviously a female name).

I don't remember anything about Rao though. So nevertheless, we have more than enough evidence that's Ammy female. Wait, *look at what she has typed* come to think of it . . . only characters with spiritual powers refer to Ammy as female. Interesting...

Yeah, that's true. Ammy is referred to as a female several times, and I'm not saying girls can't lay the smack down on people. Personally, I think she's a girl, and the Waka's use of 'ma cherie' instead of 'mon cheri' is definitive, right? That's what I thought.

...Until I got the Golden Fury technique. Female canines can't physically DO that. It's strongly male, the lifting the leg thing. Even neutered male dogs won't do it. So maybe she's female spiritually...and male physically... or something... weird...

Oh yeah, I don't mean to change the subject like this, but it just hit me. I think Kaguya's part of the Moon Tribe like Waka! It makes so much sense when you think about it. Her epithet was "Moonlight Beauty", she came to Nippon in a bamboo-shaped rocket, which seems to be affiliated with the Celestial Plain like the Ark of Yamato, and that Mr. Bamboo guy even said that she loved to look up at the moon. It could just be me, but I see a connection. What do you guys think?

Oh, personally I don't think anybody would mind about changing the topic. I mean this is a 'General' discussion forum right? Althogh, what you think about the brush gods' gender would be nice. *hint, hint*

Well, you've brought up a good point. There're facts that have hinted that Kaguya could be of the moon tribe, but if that's the case I thought there should have been some interaction between Waka and her. I mean what do you do when one of your accursed tribe member appeared? Ignore her and chase after a wolf goddess who have no idea what's going on?

Of course gamewise, they're could be a difference but it's a fairly old and popular tale. Think of one of the old 'princess' fairytales like Cinderella or Snow White, it's about as well known....

(By the way DD, It may be a little stale and irrelevant by now, but I just realized I agreed with your first post in full. Ah beans, I don't know WHAT I was readin' that week. Must've done a number on me. ^_^;)

Amaterasu: female

Yomigami: male

Tachigami: male

Hanagami: all male

Bakugami: male

Nuregami: female

Yumigami: female

Kazegami: male

Moegami: male

Kasugami: male

Kabegami: female

Gekigami: male

Itegami: male

It's okay. It's just that the first time I read your second post I was like 'OMG that sound just like a lecture from an English teacher' which means although my brain could comprehend that's what you have said is educational . . . I just don't get it.

Back on topic, I just don't see why they can't embellish on Kaguya's plot line more for the game's sake. I mean after all, the mythical Issun is not a pervert, is he? Anyway, Sapphire Shadow Dragon please do write a fanfic about this! Come on, let's help the okami section grow. If you ever post it, I'll definetly read and review it. Oh and thanks a lot for your opinion on the brush gods' gender. OK, so far most of the brush gods have seen as male...

Also, Amaterasu is definitly a girl. Aside from the fact that Amaterasu is female in the Shinto legends, she is refered to as "Mother to us all" by the brush gods.

But anywho, yeah that's an interesting point with the brush god's being genderless and such. I could see that.

Yeah, I know that they're suppose to be genderless and all, but since we haven't seen them shiftshape maybe they do have a gender. (Sorry for the out of topic-ness, but Loki, a Norse god, could shiftshape but still people considered him male) After all, at least spiritually everybody agree that's Ammy is female. So maybe the other brush gods have gender too.

To dragonwolfmaiden: I still haven't gotten all the stray beads either. You're still the most accomplish one. :D

Kasugami, god of mist is actually male.

You're correct about the other gods though...congrats!

Whew! That's good to know, if the real Issun is really a pervert . . . well I wouldn't know what to say about that. For some unknown reason it felt really weird to imagine a grandma telling her grandchild the story of a very pervert one inch boy before bedtime.

To Koeigirl: Well, I wouldn't really says that anybody's guess on the brush gods' gender to be wrong. After all the brush gods supposed to be genderless. But I've really wonder what other people think about the brush gods' gender and I guess this would make a good discussion so I bring it up. It's no big deal, though at first I've mistake Kasugami to be male too . . . until dragonwolf maiden correct me that is.

Now that's a real wonderful news! Hehe, now I don't have to be bull-headed anymore.

Oh and my favorite weapon just have to be the rosary beads. Yeah, for insanely long distance whip!

I'd have to go with the rosary beads as well. You just can't go wrong with them!

i.e. in one game i use the mirror. after i beat it and start another game, i use the rosary. and so on and so forth. but i have to admit, the rosary beads are starting to become my favorite ^_^

1. Okami Amaterasu and the Element Dragons

2. The Elements Return

I'm still working on #2 but i think it's going to be a little longer than the first. only time can tell. You know the dragons in the stories are my own creations. actually they are my drawings.

1. Forums are not to be used to post stories.
2. All discussions including language and content must be suitable for teens.
3. The owner/moderator(s) of this forum is solely responsible for content posted within this area.
4. All forum abuse must be reported to the moderator(s).

1. Forum admin/moderator
2. Fanatic (on site for more than 2 years)
3. Fan (on site for more than a year)
4. Regular (on site for more than 6 months)
5. Camper (on site for more than a month)
6. Apprentice (on site for more than a week)
7. Newbie (on site for less than a week)