Plus I like Aerith's character better because she's sweet and more outgoing. Tifa acted too shy and never really had that spark. Don't get me wrong, I like Tifa but I just prefer Aerith's more live-for-today attitude.

The problem with Tifa is that she is so much like Cloud. If they ended up together, it really wouldn't be as great.

~Fran

And as Catie-Cat says "romantics, idealists and fans of star-crossed lovers" go for Aerith/Cloud(mostly!) Why? Well, out of all the following films, which do romantics or fans of star-crossed lovers hate:

1 "Romeo and Juliet"

2. Titanic

3 Moulin Rouge

4. The Notebook

5. Tristan and Isolde

Stories of "star-crossed lovers" who are torn apart by fate and tragedy. I realise the films have nothing to do with FF7 really lol but if you link Cloud and Aeris to these storylines, you see just how similar the romance is. And does anyone argue that Rose should have chosen Cal in Titanic? Or Romeo and Juliet not to marry? Nope. As a friend of mine said:

"You know it's true love when it can never be"

I think the Cloti fans can't see past the realism and mundane. "But she dies" is the most popular line with my fellow gamers at school. Aeris dies, so she is severed from Cloud, the end. I get VERY **. Like Titanic, Rose loved him even though he died.

~Fran

oh well lol

I do understand why people like Cloud/Tifa but to me it's just too...plain and simple. Cloud/Aerith is such a beautiful relationship if looked at properly. The tragedy of it all is what makes it so...perfect.

Plus there was so much more evidence for Clorith in the game(refering to things you can't change with the gamer's choices of course)

1. Aerith is the only one in the game to make Cloud laugh. Tifa doesn't even make him smile.

2. Why would Cloud ask Aerith if Zack and her were in a serious relationship if he wasn't interested in her? He's hardly the type for gossip or idle chit-chat!

3. After about 2/3 hours from meeting her, Cloud goes off to rescue Aerith. Why? Didn't he say at the start of the game that he cares about nobody but himself? Yet here he is running after the flowergirl.

4. In Cosmo Canyon, he begins to say "I'm here for you" but then quickly changes to "We're here for you"

5. He mentions her name SIXTY THREE times after she dies. For someone who doesn't give a damn about people, that's unusual.

6. When he defeats Sephiroth, he looks up, sees Aerith's hands SMILES and then reaches for it.

7. When holding Tifa, he says "A message from the Promised Land, I think I can meet her there" Link this to Aerith's line "I want to meet you" Conclusion? They want to meet each other!

**-slap CloTis! :p

P.S: I was only joking lol Don't hurt me.

Now, it's our turn **! :)

Beeria, you are so right. There is so much evidence for Clorith. Did you guys know, Square were going to make Aeris Cloud's lover right up until the last moment when they decided a love triangle would make a better story? They decided early on that Aeris/Aerith would die but they were going to keep her and Cloud together until the love triangle was decided in the last moments of developing the game storyline.

HA!

HELL. YES.

OMG we lurve Aeris...(tears in eyes)

I went to Cloti forums in other websites and they totally bash us Aeris fans. They say we are WAY TOO romantic, foolish into thinking love transcends death, the usual hating.

I agree with GingaNinja1 about the Aeris being Cloud's lover thingy, I heard that rumor too. Tifa was a character created at the last minute and designed her to attract boys!(coughbigboobscough)

One on mah buddies counted Cloti fics and Clorith fics, and there are more Clotis! WE MUST CHANGE IT! (whips out Word Pad) FOR THE FLOWER GIRL!!

~Fran

I wish lol

The challenges are still up *cough* hinthint *cough*

And Gingerninja, I love your post lmao "OUR TURN!" Damn right!

If anyone is still interested in the Clorith challenges you can get them from the link on my profile. It's right at the top...please?

lol that was a bit off topic...haha

Yeah, I'll read the challenges and stuffs!

FOR THE FLOWER GIRL!

~Fran

What I don't understand is the fact that 9 out of 10 CloTi fans hate Aerith yet the same number of Clorith fans like Tifa :S it's strange. I used to hate Tifa when I was younger but since I've grown up, I started not minding her so much. The statistics are true. If you go on the CloTi section, Aerith is bashed in so many and portrayed as a **/**/nag etc etc.

I know some Cloriths do it to Tifa too and I don't like it either way but it is definately more apparent in the CloTi stories. The problem is, when they bash the other character, they are effectively bashing their own favourite character(s) for making them as bitchy. That makes me laugh :)

Now I just accept her and don't mind her as much.

I don't like it when people make Aeris seem like a "**/**/nag" as you put it, but it happens. It's up to real Aeris supporters to portray the flower girl for who she is!

I'm gonna write another Clorith soon..! ...after everything else that I have to do for the week. Don't worry Beeria, I'll take up a challenge! ^.^

LEMME AT'EM!!

~Fran

Yeah...I thought the 100 drabbles would have overtaken CloTi by now but my imagination has gone dry and I can't think :(

Help? Anyone? lol

P.S: I heard Square were planning on making a game about Cloud and Aeris. Whoop Whoop! Hope that's true. I also heard something about a Kingdom Hearts movie...xD

8D

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AND A KH MOVIE?!?!?

8D

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~Fran

I heard about the KH movie on bebo actually. Awww Cloud/Aerith reunion in reality *sighs*

Oh yeah, that reminds me, did anyone think Tifa was stalking Cloud in KH2? I was like, Square why are you making her so clingy?! It was funny admitedly that she searched the whole of Hallow Bastion and couldn't find him, yet Aerith walked around the corner and there he was Lmao!

But I was a little annoyed that they portrayed Tifa that way :S

One of the first adverts for the completed Final Fantasy 7 game showed Aerith's funeral, Cloud burying her in the water. The caption?

"A love that could never be"

Obviously Square liked Cloud/Aerith together even after deciding to change the storyline xD

*hugs SquareEnix*

*remembers they killed her*

*slaps*

They killed off one of the most influential characters in video game HISTORY!! And what's Tifa, eh? Some big-boobed BIMBO! B-I-M-B-O!!

LOLZ, jk about the top.

Anyways, yeah, Cloud and Aeris are the lovers that couldn't be. Isn't that romantic? (sighs) I love me some romance...

Anyways, BEWARE Clotis!! You can't make our flower girl a **!! LOLZ

~enthusiastic Fran

I kid. I do like Tifa.

A lot of CloTis hate Aerith because they see her as too sweet, innocent and weak...not really. I mean mess up the play on the date and she smacks the hell out of everyone(if she's able to punch Cloud THAT hard that proves how strong she really is lol)

She leaves Tseng for dead, she says to Sephiroth's face "I'm going to stop you."(I would rather run and hide from him to be honest :S)

Growing up in the slums would mean she would be all to aware of nasty things such as rape, drugs etc. She's not naive.

Tifa may be stronger than Aerith physically but I think Aerith is stronger emotionally. I mean, her father is shot when she's a bady from then on her and her mother are experimented on, when they escape her mother dies, the Turks are constantly chasing her throughout her childhood and teenage years in Midgar, her first love interest is killed before they had a chance to have anything and on top of all that she has to deal with hearing the voices of her dead parents!! If I were her, I would have killed myself long ago!

Sure Tifa and Cloud's hometown was destroyed but they had each other to get through that. Aerith had to cope pretty much on her own. Yet she still smiles and she still trusts people so easily. That, in my opinion makes her strong. That's why I respect her character.

~Fran

I'm going to point out here Aerith fans that the creators confirmed Aerith's death wasn't a Hollywood sacrifice but cold-blooded murder. She didn't know she was going to die!

That makes Cloud/Aerith all the more beautiful in my opinion

Yup, I think that takes a LOT of spiritual strength and a helluva lot of MP to pull it off.

~Fran

*gasps*

They're planning against us!!

lol

Dunno, I wanna argue with someone, my day sucked royally. Nothing happened.

~Fran

Just got this image of Cloriths charging a battle field against CloTis hee hee

(we would win...duh!) xD

Yeah, I'm the strange one in my classes, just cuz I know more about video games than half the boys in my school. :) Also cuz I do a KICKASS cosplay version of Zack! (I wore clothes that would emulate Cloud's and wear a Zack wig!) Sadly, girls found me hot until they discovered that I was female...(is disturbed)

~Fran

This is an awesome Cloud/Aerith site. And they don't bash Tifa either. Yay!

~Fran

"Question: What was the thought behind bringing back Aeris [in Kingdom Hearts]?

Nomura: Yes, she died in Final Fantasy VII, but there's no real relation to where she was at or what role she played in FFVII. There's no relationship from FFVII to the Kingdom Hearts stories. I consider them separate stories. But if you play Kingdom Hearts, toward the end, some of the questions about the relationship between Cloud and Aeris in FFVII might be answered. It's sort of like a side story, and this was an extra bonus that I wanted to give to players."

"Nomura has stated that some of the questions about Cloud and Aerith's relationship in Final Fantasy VII might be answered in Kingdom Hearts in addition to saying that Kingdom Hearts is meant to portray that people remain connected even when physically apart. From these two quotes, it is quite logical to assume that Nomura considers Cloud and Aerith to have remained connected in some way despite her death."

"Cloud's characterization in subsequent games is another thing which indicates that Cloud never ended up with Tifa. The whole premise of Cloud ending up with Tifa at the end of Final Fantasy VII is that he would chooses to move on and live a happy life with her. However, Cloud has never been characterized as happy in subsequent games. His portrayal in subsequent games such as Kingdom Hearts, Advent Children, and Final Fantasy Tactics has continued to be that of a tragic, troubled, and grieving man with a guilty conscience who can't live in peace with himself. Such a characterization totally speaks against the idea of moving on to enjoy a happy life with Tifa."

I'm posting this in every love triangle forum. Aerith died in FF7 yet it's pretty obvious from these quotes that KH is providing Clorith with a second chance.

So...CloTis, I do believe that it's:

Game.

Set.

Match!

Have a nice day xD

You tell them Debs!

Clorith forever!!!!!!!!

You tell 'em, Beeria and Katie!! *waves big Clorith banner*

~Fran

Hahahaha for the ideal, tragic love team!

Where are we marching to, again?

(heheh)

Yay for Cloti/Clorith friendship!! ^.^

Cloud'll be pleased, lol. XDD

I'm making a Cloti fic after I finish my Clorith one. I support both couples right now, even if I'm still leaning towards Clorith. I have no ill will against Cloti or anything related with it. :)

Oh, and my name's Fran. Makes it easier to type, lol. ^.^ *glomps*

Anyone out there?!?! *crickets chirp* ^^;

*shuts it*

*opens again*

Er, I don't wanna disturb all of your Clorith joy, but you guys seem to think that all CloTi's keep on regurgitating the same old "CLOUD CANT LUV AREIS CUZ SHE'S DED" garbage, when we do have real reasons for believing in CloTi. And I haven't seen Clorith's get "ripped to shreds" by CloTi's in awhile.

Especially since there haven't been CloTi's around in awhile.

Well, yeah, you all can go on partying and whatnot.

But I'd just like to say that CloTi's aren't all what you think they are, and hopefully you guys still have room in your heart and optimism enough for the better CloTi's.

So... carry on, and I apologize for spilling CloTi in your big pool of Clorith fun.

I'm a Clorith myself, but I don't see the point in denying Cloti's possibility. I mean, it's not like Cloud's life would end right after DoC, right? He can still love Tifa.

So Cloti is still very, very, very possible. And plausible. It just happens that I like Clorith better.

Cheers!

So i am a proud supporter of Cloud's Love for Aerith and vice versa <3

Something like that, as I recall.

To me it seemed Cloud was the only thing that connects her back to her home and chooses to keep him near by to remind her she wasn't alone, which is fair enough n.n

On the contrary, I think it's the other way around. Cloud needs Tifa to anchor him, to show him he's not alone in the battle he's fighting against his own demons, like in AC, where she reminds him that she can help him and that they can fight Geostigma together. He's all on his own waiting to die, but she reminds him he's not alone. She is the one who's always looked out for him, cared for him, just as much as he's cherished his promise to protect her.

Also, without Tifa, he wouldn't have solved the mystery of his own muddled past, because she was the only member of the "crew" (I'll call it that for lack of a better word) who was a part of his childhood and could solve the mystery of what was going on inside his head by connecting it to memories of their past together and their times in Nibelheim. She was the rock to his childhood and without her there would have been nobody to confirm or deny what happened when he returned to Nibelheim all those years ago. I won't say he'd run around with his memories mixed with Zack's memories, his emotions mixed with Zack's emotions, and his own ideas of the perfect self he wished he was forever, but I see no other solution, because Tifa was the one who helped him get through that ordeal, the only one who could have helped him.

Err, I'm not sure if that made any sense whatsoever. I just kinda rambled. But there's a clear thought running through my head, I just can't put it into words. So if that didn't make sense, just let me know and I'll attempt to clarify ^^

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