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Topic: Which alternate pairings seem a bit strange or didn't appeal to you at all?
I don't mean to bring up this question with the intent of bashing anyone's opinions or their ideas. I was just curious about which alternate pairings were a bit strange in the minds of others. In my case, I'd say the one alternate pairing that doesn't appeal to me is Kenshin and Misao. I don't know how that pairing came up, but in my opinion, it seriously doesn't match...
#1 Dec 25th 2005, 2:22am
Anithene
Oh, many (and I just know someone's going to mention Soujiro/Misao _)

1: Enishi/Misao

Why? For one thing, they are complete and utter opposites. I think Enishi's constantly enraged and spiteful persona may frighten Misao more than make her pity him like Kaoru. Because Kaoru understood Kenshin, and wanted to protect him; she felt pity on the man who lost his sister to Kenshin and was hell bent on revenge. Misao, though, wasn't in love with Kenshin and therefore wouldn't understand his situation fully. All in all I just don't think Enishi would *care* about Misao, much less enough to fall in love with a loud-mouthed (yes, I am a Misao fan) 16 year old who would get on every one of his unstable nerves and possibly hurt her. Oh yeah, what a great relationship that will be _

2: Sano/Misao. They would just drive each other up the wall. I'm sorry, but that's just never going to happen. The only thing the two ever do is fight and bicker about the silliest things, because they're personalities clash a bit too much. Heck, I'm not even sure they have a sembalance of *freindship* much les anything to sprout something more.

3: Saitou/Misao. Here we go with the opposites. Saitou aggrivates Misao way too much, and there's no way that's ever going to change. Unless she suddenly goes into this hure pit of depressionn..which isn't going to happen either. He's married for one thing, and another he's practically the next satanic idol. I doubt he'd help her if she were being attacked for crying out loud.

4: Kaoru/Enishi. Well, I can see where EK fans are coming fron; but really, the only thing I see on Kaoru's side is pity; and on Enishi's he doesn't see her as "Kaoru" he sees her as "Tomoe." Not only that he threatened to kill her and dang well nearly did before Kenshin came for her.

5: Sano/Kaoru. Yes, they have a nice freindship..but Kaoru is obviously bent on Kenshin (as if that wasn't noticable enough) thier personalities are...well...not the greatest when put in the same room XP

6: Any Yaoi/Yuri pairing. The only homosexual character on there is Kamatari. I have nothing against homosexuals..but I honestly cannot see any type of homosexuality going on. At all. Besides that, Kamatari is *trisexual* not really *homosexual* in the first place! I think the one that annoys me most is any male character with Soujiro, which I'm going to explain:

7: Aoshi/Soujiro. .......silence. Yup, my reaction. This is so absolutely MINDBOGGLING to think of I don't even want to think of it to explain. A lot of people seem to think that because Soujiro is presumably happy/smiley and happens to have a slightly feminine air, that just automatically makes him gay. *rolls eyes* If that were so, then why not call every other slightly feminine male on the planet gay? People, it just doesn't work like that, I'm sorry rabid Yaoi fangirls, but it doesn't. I'm not *even* going to get to Aoshi...

Hmm..that's all I can think of, really O_o'; Be gentle with your opinions guys, we don't want flame wars here! *hides*

#2 Dec 25th 2005, 8:19am
White Rabbit Tale
I'd just like to point out, Anithene, that Saitou DID help Misao when she was being attacked. Remember in Shingetsu village? The first time Misao ever met Saitou, he was saving her and Eiji from the black-masked guys.

Anyway, I really don't have a problem with any alternate pairing. Sano/Kaoru can be a nice read sometimes if you find the right fic that builds off canon. Usually quite angsty, though, because Kaoru is rather smitten with Kenshin and no one else.

I don't go for anyone/Yahiko unless it's Tsubame or maybe an OC that's his age. I don't know. I don't really get interested in Yahiko's romances as much as the others. He's just too young, I guess!

I tend not to read Aoshi/Megumi, and this isn't for any particular reason except it just doesn't interest me that much. I think their relationship could never get to that happily in love level, so it's pretty much just angst with these two.

So generally I'm not repelled by any pairing, there are just some that I like to read more than others. Unless you wrote Tsubame/Shishio, which I determined would be the freakiest, squickiest pairing EVER. I dare someone to write it seriously.

#3 Dec 25th 2005, 12:19pm
Midori Konbu
hahahah...Tsubame/Shishio...that is truly unbelieveable..I agree with that..

Personally, I tolerate most pairings, perhaps a bit less on Hiko, condescending as he is, although I was a little surprised when I saw him being paired with Okon/Omasu (great, though..)

#4 Dec 26th 2005, 6:56am
Espiritus
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
#5 Dec 26th 2005, 5:32pm
Espiritus
Tusbume and Shishio...now thats funny. He's all burnt and crispy!

I didn't think she was like that...lol, and besides, he died.

#6 Dec 26th 2005, 5:33pm
RKaddict001
Aoshi/Kaoru- why? because aoshi is too serious. he needs someone like misao who is really hyper that can melt his ice cold attitude.

Enishi/Kaoru- why? because Enishi sees Kaoru as his sister Tomoe.

Soujirou/Kaoru- I feel that soujirou is too young for kaoru. don't know why... I know that soujirou might be older than her but i see him like her brother or something.

#7 Dec 26th 2005, 10:07pm
White Rabbit Tale
I feel like that about Soujiro/Kaoru too! It's weird...

Anyway, I disagree with you about Misao and Aoshi. Kaoru is plenty friendly, and she has enough gusto to win Aoshi over. She certainly isn't a cold person! I feel like she'd be able to conntect with Aoshi over something, because that's just how she is. She's very personable.

You are, of course, entitled to your own opinion, but debating is fun!

I don't read Enishi/Kaoru, but I also don't agree with saying "well, he sees her as her sister, so that would be wrong!"

In my opinion, Enishi doesn't really think Kaoru is his sister or anything--he's saner than that! To me he just recognizes that Kaoru is an innocent young woman just like Tomoe was--and killing her would be like killing his sister again. So in those moments that Kaoru flashes to Tomoe in Enishi's mind, it's just Enishi realizing that he can't kill her, not that she's a replacement sister for him or anything.

#8 Dec 27th 2005, 1:35am
JMai
Personally I like alot of alt pairings, it's always nice to see how other people can protray them and find ways to make the relationship work. I think it's more about the quality of the fic than the pairing itself that I look at, but than again, I usually only read stuff with Kaoru in it, with the occasional acceptions.

I agree with WhiteRabbit5, Kaoru is actually quite perky when she wants to be, with a slightly more mature air about her. BTW try Catharsis http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1532179/1/ it's an Enishi/Kao fic, but one that is very well written. I say give all pairings a shot, except the disturbing Shishio/Tsubame one *shudders* I think I'll keep what's left of my sanity thank you very much!

#9 Dec 27th 2005, 1:56am . Edited Dec 27th 2005, 1:58am
White Rabbit Tale
Everyone seems to be getting a kick out of my proposed Tsubame/Shishio...haha.

Anyway, just wanted to point out that this is the second largest forum in RK! Woohoo! Larger than K&K Forever. Kicked those punks down! *ahem* that is all.

(I have absolutely nothing againt K&K Forever, I'm just making fun.)

#10 Dec 27th 2005, 6:53pm
Espiritus
wOoT! Kicking butt is always awesome! Yeah the S/T thing was kind of scary...*shudders and hits her head with a book to forget*
#11 Dec 27th 2005, 7:44pm
RKaddict001
For me the original pairing is still the best. Watsuki is really a genius
#12 Dec 27th 2005, 11:04pm
Hitoezakura
RKaddict001 - Watsuki's pairings are certainly wonderful, no doubt about that! However, I've always felt that there are traces of hidden romance which could've developed if given the chance!

What's with the Tsubame and Shishio idea? I almost lost it laughing when I read that! Of course, then I actually started wondering whether it could be possible to even write it...boy would that fic recieve a lot of flames!

However, once someone gives me weird ideas, I will consider writing about them. So if you ever see a Tsubame Shishio fic, you'll know it's me, and please feel free to flame it!

Interesting discussions going on here...this is the second largest forum? Wow!

#13 Dec 29th 2005, 12:59am
White Rabbit Tale
I think people would positively FLOCK to a Tsubame/Shishio fic LOL.

RKaddict001--the point of alternate pairings is to create something different from what the author has done. Yes, his pairings make the most sense, of course, but he's done them in such a skillful way, why elaborate? Whereas making relationships out of ones that do not exist...that's fun for fanfic writers!

#14 Dec 29th 2005, 1:21am
MadiSano
Oo Tsubame and Shishio. (snickers) Not much to say on my part, but since Kenshin isn't here to, I'll say it for him: "Orooooo!"

Also, I dislike Tsubame/Sano, Megumi/Yahiko, Aoshi/Kaoru, and most of all: Soujirou/Saitou. I just...don't...like...it...(shudders.) I also tend to stay away from fics that include Saitou and Tomoe (huuuh?), or Saitou and...Saitou and anybody who doesn't annoy him. Ha ha.

#15 Dec 29th 2005, 2:16pm
White Rabbit Tale
What's wrong with Aoshi/Kaoru????
#16 Dec 29th 2005, 2:44pm
Dustii
And what's wrong with Soujirou/Kaoru???

I actually must say that Kenshin/Tomoe is my most despised pairing. like, tomoe's great and everything, but the constant depiction of her as a ** in fanfics has really started to rub off on me. don't shoot me. And, personally, I think she and kenshin got together to comfort eachother rather than for real love. I dunno, but I just really, really, HATE them together. Kaoru could be in other pairings, but Kenshin MUST be with Kaoru. which is why in Alternate pairings with Kaoru, I just don't want Kenshin to be present at all, rather than end up heartbroken (which breaks MY heart) and goes to...tomoe. xP

#17 Dec 29th 2005, 3:29pm
Hitoezakura
Oh...poor WhiteRabbit5 and Sayomi-sama...many people don't seem to warm up to the idea of AoshiKaoru or SoujirouKaoru...

Wait a minute, poor me! I'm currently trying to write a AK fanfiction! (Sobs furiously)

Although yes WhiteRabbit5, I do have to agree with you! What is wrong with AoshiKaoru?

Sayomi-sama - I too, hate AU fics in which Tomoe is simply a comfort or where she's this evil lady, but I truly do like genuine TomoeKenshin pairings. I have to disagree with you about the fact that Tomoe and Kenshin were just comfort for each other. I think Tomoe was already falling in love with him before they began to live with each other. And she truly did love him, because she sacrificed her life so that he would give up his murdering ways and would be able to live happily in the future...

Yes, but I'm guilty of being an AU writer who paired Kenshin with Tomoe so that Kaoru was free...sorry!

Anyways, please don't think I'm bashing you! I'm not trying to make it sound that way!

#18 Dec 29th 2005, 7:49pm
MadiSano
Sorry! I've never read any well-written Kaoru/Aoshi fics before. They all seemed sort of weird, and I couldn't find anyone who writes the pairing well. If you have any recommendations fora fic, then help me out. I might get to like the pair! (Though never as much as Sano/Megumi. I never get tired of them. Hehe.)

I don't personally have anything against Kaoru/Soujirou, Sayomi-sama...unless you weren't referring to me. I don't recall speaking ill of Kaoru and Sou...

#19 Dec 29th 2005, 7:56pm
White Rabbit Tale
no I think she was talking to me. I actually read plenty of Soujiro/Kaoru fics! Mostly stuff by Soujiro/Kaorufanatic. She's really good. Anyway, just sometimes it feels like he's too young for her, but I still read it because they are awfully cute!

As for good AK fics, well, you've come to the right place.

If you're looking for AU:

"Anything But Ordinary" by Yukimiya the Beekeeper is a very good modern AU that includes all of the characters, and much of the time they are IC to a T.

She's also writing "The Scarlet Letter" which is an AU, but not modern times. I think it's probably set in Feudal Era Japan, so it's even before the real RK.

Another good AU one that hasn't quite gotten Aoshi and Kaoru off the ground is Hiteozakura's fic, "How Is This Love?" very cool plotline, that one.

If you want something from the canon universe, definately check out BelleDayNight's "The Best of Intentions."

A really subtle, /completely/ canon fic is "Furtive Glances" by Akane-Rei. This works solely off the series.

Another one like that is "She Walkes in Beauty" by VenusBlade

Good AK one-shots:

"Awareness" by Scented Candles

"Ephemeral Winds" by Sailor-Panda

I have quite a collection of good AK fics.

#20 Dec 30th 2005, 11:22am
MadiSano
Aaah! Thank you. I'll read some of these and let you know what I think. They might become one of my fave. pairings. Thanks again!
#21 Dec 30th 2005, 12:54pm
Shout2danorth91
Tsubame/Shishio ...that just scares me...really really scares me...

omg...i'm shaking...just no...not even going to say anything else about that...ew..

Ok, so I can't really see anyone in the series paring up w/ Soujiro.

I mean, this is Soujiro we're talking about. I guess if the fanfic is well done I could see it working, but now I just can't see it.

I have read many fanfics about Soujiro and other parings...but it never worked...

Misao/ Soujiro kinda freaks me out...I ALWAYS imagined Misao getting together with Aoshi...they just fit together really well.

#22 Dec 30th 2005, 6:51pm
White Rabbit Tale
How so? (And don't let anithene catch you saying that--she will flay you with her powers of rhetoric)
#23 Dec 30th 2005, 8:18pm
Dustii
Yeah, you know, I totally agree, I can't really see Soujirou paired up with anybody in the series. In an alternate universe story, however, I might be able to see him with Kaoru or Misao. If the series is continued, I'd say he'll find someone in a similar way to how Kenshin found Kaoru.
#24 Dec 30th 2005, 9:09pm
JMai
Right!! AK is great!, Scented Candles has started quite a few fics with the AK pairings, which I gotta admit, is pretty darn good! There is no doubt that the fics mentioned by WhiteRabbit5 are an absolute head turner! But you forgot to mention one! Yours WhiteRabbit5! It took me awhile to actually get to yours, but when I actually started reading it, I felt stupid for not reading it earlier. "Something Real" by Candy-Sparkle is great too, but if you don't like the AKK triangle, perhaps you should save it for later.
#25 Dec 31st 2005, 1:59am
White Rabbit Tale
Haha, thanks JMai. One day I'll write an exclusively A/K fic, but right now I just have this series with like...four or five different pairings. If you count Saitou and Tokio.

"Something Real" by Candy-Sparkle is great too, but if you don't like the AKK triangle, perhaps you should save it for later.

Same thing goes for The Best of Intentions. At first it's just AK, but it turns into a AKK triange later on, so watch out.

#26 Dec 31st 2005, 11:48am
Shout2danorth91
I guess I could see Soujiro with some of them, but he would need to be older. Now I have a mental image of him being a boy who is very powerful but hasn't yet some to turms with his power.

Aoshi and Misao kinda, I don't know how I should put this, but complete eachother. He is Mr. Ice King and she is...well...Misao. Genki! Genki! Genki! You know?

Beisdes, she always wanted him and she is so likeable. When I reald about Misao I had the feleing that she should be happy and that... Aoshi just needed to loosen up. His character fits in perfect with the story but after a while, it just gets kinda boring. Flat characters are kinda dull after a while. You just want to see him do something unexpected. I know that it would be out of character, but with all that meditating he's been doing, one would think that he would want to jump up and down screaming at the top of his lungs.

So, yea, Aoshi/Misao will work for me... Then again, if the work is REALLLLY well done, i guess I could see Soujiro and Kaoru...but I am still hanging on the Kenshin and Kaoru forever deal.

#27 Dec 31st 2005, 7:23pm
White Rabbit Tale
My philosophy on Aoshi is...

He needs a big whack in the head, no joke. Kaoru's the perfect girl for that. ^^"

I actually read quite a few A/M fics, and enjoy them, too. But at the heart of it, I'm a AK girl.

As much as I adore Misao (and I really, really do. She was my favorite character for a loooong time) I think she worships Aoshi too much to be in a relationship with him. She needs someone she can nurture, like Soujiro. Misao always has a purpose in her life. For a long time, that purpose was finding Aoshi. But once he's found, what's her purpose? Making him fall in love?

You can't make someone fall in love, so I think Misao should make her peace with Aoshi and move on to someone who needs her, like poor confused Soujiro. She can still be with Aoshi and look up to him as much as ever, but as for romantic attachment...

And as for Aoshi, he needs someone who's not afraid to tell him what's what. Let's face it, as tough as Misao was in the face of Aoshi's betrayal, she could never really stand up to him and tell him what to do, or what to think. She'd think it wasn't her place.

Kaoru on the other hand knew Aoshi as an enemy, and we can see on several occasions that she is not afraid to stand up to someone and tell them that they're hurting themselves.

#28 Dec 31st 2005, 7:33pm
Hidden Leaf
Soujiro and Megumi

Why? THEY DON"T KNOW THE OTHER PERSON EXISTS

#29 Jan 04th 2006, 7:50pm . Edited Jan 04th 2006, 7:51pm
MadiSano
On the topic of Soujirou and Megumi: Megumi, in my opinion, is in need of someone who can give her the love she needs, the gentleness and protection she wants from Kenshin. (Of course, Kenshin is Kaoru's alone and Kaoru's made darn well sure of that. Somewhat.) My first pick for Megumi would always (no matter WHAT!) be Sanosuke, because...well...because. That's why. Lol. ^_^''' It's too mushy and complicated to really explain...

But Soujirou and Megumi would actually, now that I think about it, be really cute! I'd only feel bad for Sou-chan when Megumi's Fox Ears pop up...even Sano has a hard time defending himself from the Fox Lady. And he's a rooster.

Soujirou must be a rabbit or something, then. Oo

This is hard for me to write, since I'm a SanoMeg fanatic. *snickers* I usually don't like any pairings with Megumi with anyone else besides Sano, but its just me. I'm stubbornly narrow-minded when it comes to the Kitsune-onna.

#30 Jan 06th 2006, 9:42pm
Long Island grace
I'm pretty much exclusively Sano/Megumi as well. Of course, I'll give other pairings a chance, but at the end of the day, Megumi/Sano is going to be my favorite. I wouldn't even really call this a canon pairing--I have no idea why people insist that it is. In the manga, there's no romance between them unless you take normal interaction and read it as romance.

Anyway, these two are cute ^^ and Soujiro is a rabbit, definately.

#31 Jan 16th 2006, 5:05pm
antica
*Kaoru/Enishi: i feel enishi sees kaoru as a little sister because if he is seeing kaoru as tomoe then he would love her like a brother not as a lover.

*Sano/Kaoru: i see their realtionship as a brother sister realationship

*Soujirou/Kaoru: i feel that Soujirou looks like he is 14 or something too young for kaoru and anyway he is evil and kaoru is as good as they be

*Aoshi/Kaoru: i just cant see those two together sorry but i can't

*Kenshin/Tomoe: i have nothing agaist Tomoe but i prefer kenshin be with kaoru then her.

*and last but not least i hate gay pairing: i just feel so discusted when i read about gay guys loving each other.

all in all i'm a traditional pairing fan so dont ask me what kind of alternate pairing i hate i just wanted to point out why i hate them

#32 Feb 24th 2006, 11:18pm
Lexi Teniro
The only alternate pairings I really have any semblance of a problem with are poorly written ones.
#33 Mar 06th 2006, 5:41pm
MadiSano
I thought up a rather odd pairing! XD I don't think it would EVER work, but...

...

...Tokio/Sanosuke.

O_O'

LOL! That's what I thought, too. "WHAT?!?!?!"

#34 Mar 12th 2006, 2:49pm
the sacred night
I like my alternate pairings weird... as weird as they can get... but obviously they have to be well-written. I have to have the characters in character, but that's the challenge sometimes when you're trying to get a couple together without cmpromising either of their personalities.

I adore yaoi and yuri, but not just because the sex is hot (and it is ^_^). Homosexuality was commonplace in pre-westernized Japan, so if some of the characters *were* gay or bisexual, they might not say so or make a big deal of it. Heck, even post-westernized, they might not say so *because* it was starting to be forbidden. Basically my point is that just because a character is with the other sex one time does not necessarily make them hetero, and even if they were clearly in love with that person, they could still be bisexual. According to Kinsey, best known for "Sexual Behavior in the Human Male" and "Sexual Behavior in the Human Female," collectively known as "The Kinsey Reports," we're *all* at least a little bisexual ^_^ I subscribe to this theory because I *know* I am a lot bisexual even though I'm involved with a man.

One homosexual pairing I have to say I dislike is Sano/Kenshin, because it's done so much and it doesn't even make sense! They are good friends, true, but the maturity level is just way too different for them to fall in love... although I have seen *one* fic that did this pairing well. It was called "Shifting the Balance," although I think it's been abandoned, and it was set way after Sano had been through all of China and come back, so he had matured a lot. Guess that goes to show you *anything* can be done either well or badly... just most people do it badly I guess. I think a talented author could make things work out so they made sense if the pairing had any basis whatsoever in reality, even the tiniest hint of attraction. I DESPISE the Hiko/Kenshin pairing, though, because... EWWWW! besides, i like to think none of the characters are child molesters... oh, and Yahiko/Kenshin... I've only seen that one once, but it's possibly more disgusting than Hiko/Kenshin, once again because of the child molestation thing... and the hetro pairings I don't like are Saito/Misao... blechh... (shakes head to clear out images... vomits)... Enishi/Kaoru... Battousai/Kaoru but mostly I guess because they almost always get his personality wrong... and... dun dun dunnnn... i don't like Kenshin/Kaoru... I'm a hardcore Tomoe fan all the way ^_^

#35 Apr 03rd 2006, 5:30am
White Rabbit Tale
*protects Sacred in case Lexi is around*

I don't mind the Enishi/Kaoru pairing because Stockholm Syndrome is always fun! But I like how Kaoru tries to understand everyone and that's why I like her paired with a lot of different people. Well, Aoshi. *cough*

Right...but I was scrolling down the forum list and saw the Enishi/Kaoru forum and I was like "wait...that's not right...isn't Enishi supposed to be with Mei-mei?"

I'm kind of stupid because Mei-mei is an original character and for a second I was really like, "hang on now..." before I realized that he doesn't exactly 'belong' with her because she's an OC...no matter how much I think they do belong together.

Kie-san would be proud.

#36 Apr 03rd 2006, 4:20pm
Lexi Teniro
Well, it seems people either totally love SaitoxMisao or totally hate it. I think it's that way with a LOT of alternate pairings. People are generally either "NO THAT WOULD NEVER EVER EVER NEVER NEVER EVER NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER WORK", or "OMGz THEY TOTALLY BELONG TOGETHER!!" (Pardon my capslock)

I think a bit more tolerance should become normal. I mean, it's FANDOM. ANYTHING is possible. And if you have a good author(ess) and a good plot, the pairings kind of take second place.

#37 Apr 03rd 2006, 4:57pm
the sacred night
You're right, it is that way with a lot of pairings... I like to see pairings I've never seen before, though, because I think it's cool to explore a new facet of the characters and the relationships that maybe we don't think about often. That's why I like alternate pairings in general, unless there's pedophilia or something else very very wrong involved.
#38 Apr 04th 2006, 7:26pm
Sapphire-Mirror
I agree about the whole

"Enishi-sees-that-killing-Kaoru-will-be-like-killing-an-innocent-woman-like-his-sister" explanation. I think that pretty much nails it right smack on the head...(^^,)

Alternate pairings i can't tolerate? Can't think of any, perhaps because I haven't encountered any fic absurd enough to make pairings like the 'Shishio/Tsubame' example. I'm glad that most fanfiction writers are safe enough to just write pairings that the mainstream audience are already comfortable with...

Oh, but there is a pairing i can NEVER like: Aoshi/Misao. Yup, don't ask me to try to understand or to convince me to like it or anything because my mind is very much set on that regard. But I'm not dissing people who write or read fics with that pairing...all I'm saying is that I will never be coerced into reading one (unless special request by someone who reviewed my own story/ies)

(=P)

#39 Apr 10th 2006, 11:09pm
Sapphire-Mirror
What's wrong with Aoshi/Kaoru????

I'd like to know that myself. I, for the record, absolutely LOVE reading and making fics with that alternate pairing. I think, next to our beloved Kenshin of course, Aoshi will make a wonderful partner for Kaoru. Kaoru wouldn't grate on Aoshi's nerves, as some other overly bubbly character (*cough*Misao*cough*) would certainly wind up doing... Kaoru has enough sunshine in her personality (that is not TOO glaring) to brighten the darkest corners in Aoshi's heart, while at the same time able to assume a mature, caring persona for someone who needs much understanding like Aoshi... Let it be said, too, that the aforementioned traits are -i think- also the reasons why Kaoru is perfect for Kenshin... (=P)

#40 Apr 10th 2006, 11:20pm
Sapphire-Mirror
MadiSano, go to BelleDayNight's profile page and you'll see some A/K stories there that are simply WONDERFUL!

Although in one of her stories (I forgot the title) the part where Kenshin got syphillis turned me off, not because Kenshin got sick and was dying (I'm a realistic person, and I do love tragedy sometimes) but because why SYPHILLIS of all illnesses for PETE'S SAKE!?! That's really disgusting... (XP)

#41 Apr 10th 2006, 11:26pm
Sapphire-Mirror
Lexi-Teniro, by far, I think your answer is the most intelligent of all the replies I've read here in this forum (=P)

Truly, for me at least, if someone out there writes an INCREDIBLY GREAT story with the MOST ABSURD pairing ever to be concocted by the rational mind then I'll still probably love it. The thing here is you see, ever since I started reading (and writing) fanfiction I've learned these two neat little tricks called 'tolerance' and 'suspension of disbelief', thus making reading fanfiction very pleasurable for me.

#42 Apr 10th 2006, 11:41pm
Whisper Softly
*Le Gaspe!* "Tolerance"? "Suspension of disbelief"? What are these revolutionary ideas you so BOLDLY speak of? HA! The very IDEA of tolerating another's preferences by way of pairings and plotlines! How could you THINK such a thing, let alone put it in TYPE?

:P Ha ha. I'm kidding, of course. They're BRILLIANT ideas which I wish a LOT more people would follow. Let us end the reign of the "diz parng sux soooo u sux haha ur dum" reviews (which are pretty horrible)! :D

#43 Apr 11th 2006, 3:27pm
White Rabbit Tale
Candy-Sparkle you should keep reading The Best of Intentions. I got annoyed when he got syphillis too, but sometimes not everything is as it seems...

I looove alternate pairings, but it kind of annoys me when people write them just for the sake of writing alternate pairings. Like, "Oh, look at me with my different views!"

When people use stories to explore different relationships, I like that.

I've actually never seen anyone give a bad review to a story because of the pairing. I'm sure people (stupid people) do that, but I haven't seen it. What I HAVE seen is people completely ignoring great stories that happen to have pairings like Misao/Saitou or something, and completely gush over horribly cliche KK stories.

Alternate pairings are great because you have a freer reign for what you can do. You can define the relationship in whatever terms you want. Whereas if you're writing Kenshin and Kaoru, you are confined to the relationship Watsuki has already given them. (Of course, a lot of people completely change the dynamic, but to me that is silly because it's almost like writing Kenshin/OC with Kaoru's name, or Kaoru/OC with Kenshin's name or two OCs that have the same names as Kenshin and Kaoru.)

Of course, traditional pairings can be fun because you have to work with what's given AND make it original.

Either way, if you write a pairings and write it good, I will probably want to read it.

#44 Apr 11th 2006, 3:40pm
Sapphire-Mirror
Thanks white rabbit tale (^_^)

Yeah I'm rereading Best of Intentions and I guess on the second run through I'm now able to grit my teeth through the 'syphillis experience'... (=P) Besides, where BelleDayNight's works are concernced, I can hardly stay away (=D)

Haha yeah I totally understand and agree to the free reign thing when it comes to alternate pairings. And though I myself am guilty of this thing you call 'changing the dynamic' (meaning the OOCness of Kaoru and/or Kenshin in some stories) when it comes to my fics, that doesn't mean that I didn't wholeheartedly agree with you on that regard. I laughed when I read that part, you know (;D)

And perfect conclusion too on your part: "Either way, if you write a pairing and write it good, I probably want to read it." (~_^)

#45 Apr 11th 2006, 6:22pm
White Rabbit Tale
Well I was reading a particular fic where Kaoru was one of those badass assassin chicks and I was just like "the only reason you're not getting flamed like millions of other assassin girl fanfics is because your Mary-Sue happens to have a couple of the same characteristics as Kaoru. Like her name and her hair color." I'm suprised more people don't see behind this ploy.

Anyway, thanks Candy-Sparkle!

#46 Apr 12th 2006, 10:00pm
Bleeding Wings
Here's a coupling that would never happen: Kaoru/Yahiko. Those two have more of a big sister/little brother relationship. Sure, they balance each other out but there's no way they would get intimate. Besides, Yahiko's a KID!
#47 Apr 13th 2006, 12:29pm
hajimenokizu
I haven't really read or come across with this alt-pair but I'll say my opinion nonetheless... I would probably not like a Saitou x Megumi fanfic. Although I -do- like Megumi, in discussing this pairing with some of my friends during the time I was thinking of writing a Saitou x Megumi fic... At first I thought, a doctor and a cop, two people who probably are very similar in traits and background would make for a good story. Unfortunately, I figured that Megumi might actually annoy the cop more and I dropped it. I guess in my opinion a person like Saitou would need someone to complete him in what could be considered a backward manner. Megumi being a forward woman and at times as we saw her with Kenshin and Kaoru, she has "mischievious" tendencies, might not be good for an already sarcastic/sly wolf. Familiarity breeds contempt in my opinion and Saitou needs someone to complement him and teach him stuff... Like being less sarcastic and jaded for once! Yes I think Saitou is not perfect as he seems to come across in RK, only because his past in the Shinsengumi won't permit it. I think he needs someone who knows and can show the guy how to unconditionally love and have a little more faith. Because I can't reconcile that with Megumi, I can't write it. Actually in my mind, Megumi and Aoshi might go better together as Aoshi is more held back and Megumi I think, being forward and more experienced will know how to handle Aoshi. With Saitou, they might just fight a lot and not get anywhere. That's just my opinion though... Someone even mentioned that Megumi is probably most similar to Tokio with her background (as an Aizu woman) and how the fandom characterized Tokio. I found that quite -interesting-.

Who knows? Nothing is impossible in alt-pairs... But for now, I'm just happy with Misao and Kaoru... I do love KenKao though! LOL.

#48 Apr 22nd 2006, 12:30pm
the sacred night
I *have* actually seen Megumi/Saito in a fic... but they are kind of forced together... in a sort of impossible to explain way, there are cirrcumstances such that neither of them can be with anyone else, so they decide they might as well be with each other, because the alternative would be to die alone. So it still didn't really count in that they didn't choose each other, but the author had to choose it for a reason. I dunno, I don't really see them together, but maybe.

The #1 all-time pairing I dislike most of all I've ever seen in any fanfic is... dun dun dunnnn... Kenshin/Yahiko. I like to think none of our beloved characters are pedophiles... and for that reason Hiko/Kenshin bothers me. Even when they're both adults it bothers me... when Kenshin is a kid, it's worse. So the pairings that really don't appeal to me are any adult/any child.

#49 Apr 23rd 2006, 4:27pm
the sacred night
Also, I totally agree with WRT's post about the Kaoru shaped Mary Sue. That points out perfectly why I hate OOCness so much... it's really not even that character, just someone with the same name who looks like them.

That reminds me of another pairing I don't care for... Battousai/Kaoru. What's weird is sometimes the stories are really good, or at least start out good, except that they're all kind of the same. Plus, it seems like they always get Battousai wrong... they make him all badass and a tad sociopathic. He is in fact neither of those things, but that's a completely different argument. Maybe if he were in character it'd be all right, or if it were set somewhere other than Big City USA or a Tokyo that looks suspiciously like Big City USA. I guess the pairing isn't so much the problem as the fact that the stories are so ridiculously similar, and they ALL get like 10,000 reviews and readers rave about them when people exploring something that is genuinely original are ignored, but once again... different argument...

God, I'm ranting today, aren't I? *Shuts up*

#50 Apr 23rd 2006, 4:37pm


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