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Demon Of The Rising DarkTopic: MR4, complain here **On Topic Only**
Come here and tell us what you think of MR4. I personally hated it, as I know many other people did. I am actually considering getting lots of fanfic writers to post one of those things on their profiles, then I will send an email to JP with all your writer names. Post this into your profile if you thought Maximum Ride 4: The Final Warning was a load of crap in book form. Join the petition and get James Patterson to answer for it. | #1 Mar 24th 2008, 7:24am . Edited May 05th 2008, 11:31am | |
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FlamingFlieI would, but I joined my own rebellion to rebel against the general public by not posting copy and paste things on my profile. I will however, add a little blurb concerning it somewhere on it. Here is my rant: Maximum Ride SHOULD have been titled the Global Warming Warning, not only does the title greatly resemble the real contents of the book, it's about as catchy and childlike as the entire plot line. God, was there even a half conceivable plot line? I got something between "Go Green" and "Robotic Scientists are bad". In a nutshell, the characters acted like some silly spoof on fanfiction, Fang tried the same God dang moves TWICE ("Oh Max I love you, let me kiss you!"(Fang)... "Oh I love your sexy lips... WAIT, I HATE YOU!!!" (Max)) it was idiotic. I was nearly laughing at the seal part ( a random seal, suddenly leaps out of the ice and happens to grab one of the only scientists that's a robot) and the wordage just didn't seem very mature. (I hate it that Max still calls adults "Grown-ups", The Land Before Time much?)... That's it for now, but I do have WAY more to add... |
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OCgenesisOCHave you guys ever read the essay "How to Say Nothing in Five-Hundred Words" That's pretty much what I thought of MR4. |
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nathan-pa random seal While MR4 was pretty ridiculous overall, this part? Dude, seals are bastards in real life. They really are. They. Eat. Penguins. And have huge fuck-off teeth. I have a soft spot for MR4, though, because it brings back hella many childhood memories of Animorphs and such. :3, I feel ten again. Edit because I didn't notice this: Robotic Scientists are bad Dude. Stop and think a moment. How utterly badass would that be? | #4 Mar 24th 2008, 8:15pm . Edited Mar 24th 2008, 8:20pm | |
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FlamingFlieWhenever I get that feeling, I simply go and throw myself into a rousing chapter of mindwarp (god I love those books... but pretty much only the seventh one makes me the happiest person alive... It's about aliens, and the world being all "mutant" like. And there's the unmutated people underground, and the "topsiders" who put burlap sacks on their heads and then theres the comic book hero type kids who have silver blood... Man, it's freaking amazing in my screwed up mind)... I know seals are evil (some seals), but wasn't it just a tad convienent? |
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Y.Halo.TharI haven't been able to read it yet coz I live in Australia which is the slowest thing EVER to get stuff in, but I've been seeing bad comments about it everywhere.Was it really THAT bad? Worse than MR3? If so...D: Any good points of it? And if Fang is as hormonal as you guys are making him out to be, I will lol so freaking hard. Because srsly I cannot picture it. Thanks :D | #6 Mar 25th 2008, 12:25am | |
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Kunoichi of HeartsI do admit that it wasn't that good, but it wasn't horribly bad. I personally liked the 3rd one better....the 4th one was based more on global warming than of the flock. That's what made me mad the most. I would have liked to see more problems that faced the flock and not the whole world. |
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FlamingFlieMy opinion exactly, but Global Warming just annoyed the heck out of me. |
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mergirl007Joining the petition and will spread the word. I've been debating about whether or not to start a movement like this, actually, but I couldn't figure out a reliable way to contact JP. But hell, I guess that problem can wait until later, when the momentum has built up enough to make a difference.Demon, I turned it into a proper copy and paste, so would you check my profile's version out and put it in your pro if you like it? | #9 Mar 25th 2008, 3:41pm . Edited Mar 25th 2008, 3:52pm | |
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Demon Of The Rising DarkI found a contact email, there is no sure way he'll read it but I could just send it a lot of times.Also kudos on the copy and poaste, its great. Nice one | #10 Mar 25th 2008, 4:08pm . Edited Mar 25th 2008, 4:09pm | |
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mergirl007I'm not so sure that JP would get it through that email. I sent in some questions about Max's hair color months ago, but he never answered and said somewhere else that he didn't have time to go through all the messages. I think it'll get lost in his flood of messages, frankly.Probably the best thing to do is just sit back and wait to see if the siggie becomes popular. And then let things run its course. As a fanfiction protest, it's okay. But as a RL way of making JP see his mistakes, it's probably not going to be very effective. | #11 Mar 25th 2008, 4:29pm | |
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Demon Of The Rising DarkYour probably right, but meh I guess if its popular enough its worth trying| #12 Mar 25th 2008, 4:34pm | |
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mergirl007Yeah, but we'll just have to wait and see.The one absolutely indescribable kick butt scene in MR4? When the robot snaps Angel's arm to prove a point. So badass, so evil. Yum. | #13 Mar 25th 2008, 4:43pm | |
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Kunoichi of HeartsDoes anyone know if he's making a MR5???| #14 Mar 26th 2008, 6:13am | |
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mergirl007Supposedly, but no one has been able to provide a link to the original info, so right now I'm assuming that it's a rumor.| #15 Mar 26th 2008, 6:49am | |
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Kunoichi of HeartsHe might have just ran out of idea's........ | #16 Mar 28th 2008, 7:46am | |
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FlamingFlieYou deleted some of my posts didn't you Of? Yes, JP has been doing that for some time... Oh crap, I have to go pack.. be back in two days! | #17 Mar 28th 2008, 8:47am | |
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FlamingFlieOh by the way I was talking to my mother and she has this theory: You see, James Patterson's book's have been going downhill for awhile; therefore she hasn't read them. She decided to give one of them a try again and this one was co-authored with a different person.... strangely enough, she says that it's good once again. Her theory on this is that James Patterson has alzheimers disease and authors have kidnapped him and they treat him nicely and feed him and such and then they write books for him and slap his famous, block buster sell out name on the book and put theirs along with it....... It made me laugh slightly. | #18 Apr 05th 2008, 11:03am | |
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Kunoichi of HeartsLOL! That make's a lot of sense! | #19 Apr 05th 2008, 4:05pm | |
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starfilledDREAMEROkay, to pull this topic back to it's purpose, I honestly thought James Patterson could do better. I honestly got done the book in less than three hours -- something I've never done with a book from a series I'm attached to. After I read the third book, I swore that JP was brilliant: not only for the Max Ride series, but for the Woman's Murder Club series too. But then, I'm all excited for the fourth book, and find it to be 74 chapters long. Okay, a bit of a disappointment, but didn't completely dampen my thoughts of the book. But then I started to read it and was like "Okay, seriously, who wrote this?" So, I do understand on that point. It was less than half the third book. I want to call Final Warning book three and a half, because I'm not convinced that it's the fourth book. The only things I'm remotely happy about are the following: Max's conflicting feelings about Fang (just because I want to laugh at her and go "Goodness, stop denying them already, it's so obvious!" because I thought it was obvious from the very first book), and secondly, the fact that there's going to be a fifth book, as the Voice told her her mission wasn't done yet. But, who knows how good that book'll be. | #20 Apr 06th 2008, 2:15pm | |
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Loved1well, at least it isn't three pages. And might I say, it could be worse. he could change Max into a girly girl and have her not care squat about saving the world. THAT good just be about Max and her adventures to the mall. *rolls eyes* And (god) you ruined it! bummy. | #21 Apr 06th 2008, 2:32pm | |
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mergirl007The only things I'm remotely happy about are the following: Max's conflicting feelings about Fang I actually got a bit pissed at that part because it was almost the exact same scene as in MR4, just a lot less detailed and shittier. I really, really wanted to say, "If you're going to mess up the book with romantic gunk, at least make it good romantic gunk, and don't write the same scene over and over and expect me to applaud you for copping out on the work!" and secondly, the fact that there's going to be a fifth book, as the Voice told her her mission wasn't done yet. Ah, but the real conflict for me is, will it be a good book? The series is going downhill faster than a runaway car in San Francisco, and if JP's not going to put some effort into writing it, why should I put effort into reading it? I want to call Final Warning book three and a half, because I'm not convinced that it's the fourth book. One of the fans on Fang's Blog had an interesting point: she believed that it was only half of the book. Looking at the first three books, they are all separated into two sections. But this one didn't have two sections, and the only one it did have was a crappy one at that. Does anyone else feel that JP hammered out the fourth book in less than a month because he looked at his calendar and said "Oh shit, the MR4 manuscript's due in four weeks?" | #22 Apr 06th 2008, 6:54pm . Edited Apr 06th 2008, 6:55pm | |
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Loved1*raises hand* By the way mer, did you pay any attention to my last part on how it could be worse? | #23 Apr 06th 2008, 7:12pm | |
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FlamingFlieDoes anyone else feel that JP hammered out the fourth book in less than a month because he looked at his calendar and said "Oh shit, the MR4 manuscript's due in four weeks?" Yes, I do... I'm not swaying from the theory I came up with (or my mom did) earlier. | #24 Apr 06th 2008, 7:17pm | |
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AvengingMyInnocenceDoes anyone else feel that JP hammered out the fourth book in less than a month because he looked at his calendar and said "Oh shit, the MR4 manuscript's due in four weeks?" BOWS TO MER! OMG, you hit it on the nose! | #25 Apr 07th 2008, 7:21am | |
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mergirl007By the way mer, did you pay any attention to my last part on how it could be worse? Yes, I did, actually; I just thought that you summed that part up very succinctly and I didn't have anything to add to it. :) OMG, you hit it on the nose! *bows* Thank you, thank you; I try. But it really does feel that way. :( Grr. Bad JP. *glares over at maximumride.com and hopes JP can feel Mer's eyes on him* | #26 Apr 07th 2008, 11:15am | |
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Demon Of The Rising DarkI actually don't think it could be much worse, I mean seriously...I cant even be bothered describing how bad it was. Also, dreamer, you didn't think max was too girly? I really did. And your kinda half right on her caring about saving the world. because how exactly did she? a speech? bull shit | #27 Apr 07th 2008, 1:49pm | |
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Loved1*glares over at maximumride.com and hopes JP can feel Mer's eyes on him* in my opinion, the UK maximumride.com is better then the USA. the link is on Fang's Blog. | #28 Apr 07th 2008, 2:13pm | |
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FlamingFlieI never go to Max.com... just cause. Hey Of, why are two of the topics flagged? | #29 Apr 07th 2008, 4:22pm | |
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OCgenesisOCOh my goodness. I didn't know Max talked like Daffy Duck! Oh jeeze. In the MaximumRide.com commercial she talks like she has food in her mouth. DAAAAANG. Man, I cried when I heard it. I couldn't stop laughing. | #30 Apr 07th 2008, 9:19pm | |
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OCgenesisOCWhy in sweet Jesus' name would Iggy be filming anyway? | #31 Apr 08th 2008, 9:25pm | |
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SupergirrlI think MR4 was a little bit better than MR3...in the sense that I didn't throw it at all the wall when I finished it. I just slumped down in my chair and asked my dog if he knew what had gone wrong. He tried to lick my hand and coughed, which I believe is Golden Retriever for 'James Patterson is on drugs and/or has ghostwriters write his books for him so he can count his millions ALL day instead of just for 23 hours of it.' Anyway, I did like MR4 a bit better than MR3, because I think JP might have actually written this one, even though it still sucked. The global-warming-is-bad message was so overdone, it felt like I was being brainwashed. "Global warming is bad. The Flock is good. Global warming is baaaaaaad. You will send James Patterson a check for ten thousand dollars..." Also, the rest of the Flock sort of stopped existing, which was annoying, and Fang, as usual, annoyed me through the whole thing. The kissing scene at the beginning was practically cut-and-paste from the third book, I agree, and what is up with that, anyway? It's not exactly HARD to write a cheesy romance scene. Here, I'll do one right now. 'Fang,' I stared up into his obsidian orbs, my eyes swelling with tears, 'Do you love me? Be honest, I want to know the truth!' Fang was silent, his pitch-black hair falling across his anguished eyes. I hated myself for causing him this torment, this pain. I was worthless, I was pond scum, and I deserved nothing, especially not Fang. He was better than me in every way; smarter, stronger, a better leader, everything. I felt myself burst into tears, and I sobbed, 'God, Fang, don't torture yourself like this! If you don't want me, fine, you don't have to have me. I'm sure Lissa will be willing to take you back.' With that, I spun away, my high heels wobbling as I tried to keep from tumbling to the ground. I pulled my Maybelline RandomLipGlossNameGoesHere lipgloss from the pocket of my denim miniskirt and reapplied some as I stumbled back towards my eighteen-bedroom forty three-bath 345345423634 square foot Malibu mansion, which I had bought with money earned by my teen pop star career as Maxley Ryrus. Suddenly, I felt Fang's highly muscular toned massive arms wrap themselves around my waist and spin me around, causing me to collide with his rock-hard wide broad muscle-bound chest, on display in his 'Playa' t-shirt. 'Max,' he said, his voice throbbing with passion, 'You're the only one for me.' And then, all of a sudden, he kissed me. Wow. Writing that sort of scared me. Like, I had no idea I was CAPABLE of that. Anyway, it's obviously not that difficult to write a new one, but even JP didn't manage that. Maybe he'll pay me to write cliche scenes for MR5-364634535, or however many he's going to 'write'. Hey, it'd be a living. O.G. | #32 Apr 09th 2008, 5:28pm | |
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OCgenesisOCHa ha ha good one. I approve. Although I hope to God he stops at like 5. Or possibly now. He has no plot, it feels like a bad fanfic who's author just makes it up as he goes. | #33 Apr 10th 2008, 2:15pm | |
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FlamingFlieThat description of Fang's musclular bod made me chuckle.... Sorry, I don't like goopy scenes between Max and Fang, what I did want was a FREAKING ACTION SCENE! Yeah... That book shouldn't have happened.......... | #34 Apr 10th 2008, 4:45pm | |
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SupergirrlThanks...but when I reread that little bit I wrote, I can't believe I actually wrote that. I mean, it was so bad it was good. I'd probably have an illustrious career as a Fax writer, if I got brainwashed or something. Actually, my friend came up with a brilliant technique for keeping her mind clean from the horrors of MR3-4. She pretends that they were never written. In her mind, it is still March 2007, and we are all very excited for MR3, which will certainly be a literary masterpiece we will dedicate shrines to and make Virgin Mary statues weep with its beauty. So, by blocking out all memories of the book, she has preserved both her hope and her mental health. I tried it, and it didn't work for me, but I think it's just too deeply embedded into my brain for me to block it out. O.G. | #35 Apr 10th 2008, 6:04pm | |
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FlamingFlieYeah... It was hard for me to pretend the third book didn't happen... but the fourth? That one is gone and will never be revisited. | #36 Apr 10th 2008, 6:10pm | |
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MaiyriJust bought the book and read it in less than two hours. I was supposed to be in a physics lecture, but throwing the book across the theatre didn't seem like a good idea. Anyway - after page 29, I decided to list all the wall-throw moments, or at least the page numbers for them. It's not all of them, not by far, but in a book that's effectively 292 pages long... Pgs 20-21, 29, 40-42, 47, 54, 69, 73-4, 91, 105, 112, 116, 122, 131, 149, 155, 160, 180!!!!!, 182, 247-250, 257-9, 261, 270, 276-292. Actually, the only half-decent scenes in my opinion were the funeral scene, and when they nearly died an asphyxiating death. Simply because ARI!!! and HAH, if they were dead there would be no more books. Anyone else want to send JP death threats?? Someone made a comment on the nue-forum-OMG that it should have been titled MR4: a compilation of every fanfic ever written. Personally, I can see the f'fic elements. Can we sue JP for stealing the fanfic ideas that we based on his series? Surely plotlines are intellectual property!!! Anyone else been on the nue-forum-OMG. I already feel unclean. It's just advertising for his new book. Pretending that Angel Experiment was the only book of the series, Mai. | #37 Apr 10th 2008, 7:12pm | |
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nathan-pMy thing is pretending that books 1 - 3 happened, but they were... well, more like the idea was written by a better author. (All right, is it bad if I've been romanticizing them by pretending that I wrote them?) Mainly, it's so Omega gets to happen, as well as Itex Germany. Hmm, now that I think of it, I read the series for a few things: Omega, Jeb, and any Itex / LOL SCIENCE related stuff. | #38 Apr 10th 2008, 7:42pm | |
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FlamingFlieThe funeral scene was okay... I liked one and two the best. | #39 Apr 10th 2008, 7:55pm | |
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OCgenesisOCI was soooo excited for MR4 I got the book then skimmed for the name "Omega" I found it....2x. I couldn't believe that when he was mentioned it was just for the whole "I'm MaX freakin' Ride! Watch me beat up some super freak!" I was so bummed he wasn't in it SO BUMMED. Let me growl in annoyance: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | #40 Apr 10th 2008, 10:40pm | |
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Demon Of The Rising DarkWhat I find hard to believe is that JP came up with this really good (if not entirely original) idea for a young adult novel, he executed the first book very well( again lacking some originality but still great) the same can almost completely be said about the second book, but somehow he lost his way near the end of MR2, and just screwed it up, I really have no idea what went wrong. XD, I have actually sent JP several emails telling him how bad it was in appalling detail, I somehow doubt I'll get replies | #41 Apr 11th 2008, 8:50am | |
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SupergirrlI think JP came up with his ideas...his adult novels are all pretty good, even the ones he wrote before he got famous. I think we can pretty safely say he didn't write MR3 or MR4. Unless he just sort of threw quality to the wind and let his cat roll around on his keyboard, then published the results. Or maybe held some sort of secret contest where he had the worst authors in the MR fandom collaborate to write MR4... ...Which actually kind of makes sense, and disturbs me at the same time. O.G. | #42 Apr 11th 2008, 7:15pm | |
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FlamingFlieI still think his brain just rotted out... and what's left is this kinda shell that can hardly string two words together. | #43 Apr 11th 2008, 8:34pm | |
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SupergirrlYou're probably right...but the question is, how did his brain rot? I'm thinking he just went senile from old age, or he had the misfortune to see Next!, possibly the dumbest TV show EVER made. If any of you guys have also seen it, I pity you deeply. I saw a few episodes very early this morning because I was too tired to get up to go get the remote to change the channel, and I think my brain suffered permanent damage from that. O.G. | #44 Apr 12th 2008, 7:01am | |
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Loved1maybe he hit his head................ HARD. | #45 Apr 12th 2008, 7:03am | |
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OCgenesisOCAll I know is that it sucks to be JP with all of his fan kids turning on him. | #46 Apr 12th 2008, 1:28pm | |
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Loved1if the rest of the books turn out like the first one, then what's the point in reading them? | #47 Apr 12th 2008, 1:32pm | |
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Demon Of The Rising DarkWell...you know...then they would actually be worth reading, its not what happened necessarily but the lack of an all round good plot ( something really stupid could happen but if it makes a good plot it doesnt matter) | #48 Apr 12th 2008, 2:08pm | |
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Loved1woops. I ment the fourth one. | #49 Apr 12th 2008, 2:33pm | |
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FlamingFlieYeah... I hope the next ones better, but it's probally a very vain hope. | #50 Apr 12th 2008, 8:00pm | |
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