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ShyMoonlightTopic: Kuro-pi with Tomoyo-chan or Fai-kun with Kuro-pi? Which do you prefer? I personally prefer Kuro-pi with Fai-kun, don't know why, especially since I'm not a fan of shounen-ai, but they look very kawaii together!Which do you prefer? Go on submit your opinions! |
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Alpha Draconis1Kuro and Tomoyo. It's a matter of opinion though, based on how long the characters have known each other and their relationships. |
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ZeeofGreenEyesI like Kurogane. I like Tomoyo. I just don't like them as a couple. For some reason it just turns me right off, for many reasons. It's a personal preference, but I really like their brother/sister relationship such as it is. |
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xMysticxDawnxCLAMP had given us hints on BOTH Kurogane/Fye AND Kurogane/Tomoyo. There's no possible way we can know on an official pairing yet since both are possible.Personally, I prefer Kurogane with Tomoyo. I'm not saying that Fye doesn't feel anything for Kurogane (it sure looks like he might) but I can't imagine Kurogane returning the same feelings. He is utterly devoted to his princess. Some might use this as an excuse to say that Kurogane feels in debt to her, but I have a feeling that he probably might feel something more for her, what with everything that happened in Volume 13 of the manga. |
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anticadefinatly Kurogane with Tomoyo....i mean he is so determined to go back to his home and is very loyal to her i love these two together they are so cuuute togetherfye may have some feelings for Kurogane.....but i dont think he even like him back.....they are always fighting and Kurogan always want to skin fye alive but that's my opinion anyway antica ^_^ |
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SakuraKChanI gotta say Tomoyo-hime with Kurogane. He's just so devoted to her and misses her so much and I dunno I just love the little sad looks he makes when he's thinking over her =D. As for Fai and Kuro, I dunno, I personally don't see it though I can see Fai being effiminate at times and maybe thinking something in that direction but I don't see Kurogane thinking along those lines. |
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Asaka Kiseragi*laughs* Wow. I feel out-voted here, but I am stating my own personal peferences here. Honestly? I loathe KuroganeXTomoyo. I have absolutely no problem with other people liking the pairing, but I can see absolutely no factor indicating that they should be together. I am a much bigger fan of Kurogane/Fai, and I would be, I believe, even if I wasn't a liker of slash pairings in the first place. There is a lot more character interaction between Kurogane and Fai then Kurogane and Tomoyo, and there's a really good chemistry there. Chapter 112 really spelt out the KuroFai relationship for me; and I was already a firm lover of the pairing. Plus, CLAMP aren't one for breaking up canon couples or romantic feelings: Tomoyo was in love with Sakura in Cardcaptor Sakura, so I doubt CLAMP would change that just because of a new character. Tomoyo makes me all kinds of fangirl happy and giggly, but I think I'll leave her to love Sakura rather than pair her off with a new character CLAMP have made up. KuroganeXTomoyo almost seems incestuous to me...from the Piffle arc, all I saw was a great caring of an almost brotherly/sisterly relationship - it reminded me of Touya and Sakura. ^_^ In my opinion, Tomoyo paid FAR more attention to Sakura in Piffle than she did Kurogane. So, yeah. That's my view on the subject. I love KuroFai and hate KuroTomo. (I also loathe FaiXChi even more than KuroganeXTomoyo because that is outrightly breaking up a canon pairing. Tch. Let's leave Chi to Hideki.) But, that's my opinion. I have absolutely nothing against your opinion on the pairing...but...I just see KuroFai more than KuroTomo. ^_^ | #7 May 27th 2006, 1:51pm . Edited May 27th 2006, 1:54pm | |
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Asaka Kiseragi.| #8 May 27th 2006, 1:54pm . Edited May 27th 2006, 1:54pm | |
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KittyCat918I personaly like him with Tomo-Hime.| #9 Jun 04th 2006, 11:31am | |
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AnimeRose93I like the pairing Kurogane and Tomoya. I don't like the other pair. That may be because I don't like yaoi couples though. Not to mention an upcoming episode talks about Fai going on a date with Chi.| #10 Jun 09th 2006, 10:54am | |
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LuinramwenKurogane and Tomoyo. I know Sakura was Tomoyo's love in CCS, but on the other hand, Tomoyo-hime has grown up quite a lot (at least it appears to be that way in Japan - her Piffle counterpart was still very much like her CCS self), and judging from various sources such as Vol. 13 and Kurogane's own feelings towards her, there is definitely some sort of bond there. I couldn't tell you whether it will end up that way or not, but we'll just have to wait and see, right? And as for the other half of the question - I personally like Fai/Chii. Call me crazy or whatever. But as cute as Chii and Hideki were together, Chii and Fai make it even fluffier. I'm going with that pairing because my personal beliefs on the matter as to why Fai created Chii in Celes actually has to do with Chii's sister, who died before the Chobits manga ever started. So actually I suppose I'm supporting a guessed-at pairing of Fai/Freya. There. You can't say that's not possible because she's already part of a canon couple, because she wasn't. And I thought she deserved a little happiness. I know - I know - hit me, she hasn't even been mentioned in TRC, but it is a possibility, which is why I still like the Fai/Chii angle. | #11 Jun 14th 2006, 1:59pm | |
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SakuraKChanXD I love you! I also love Fai/Chii, especially after the date ep. I still really honestly can't see where people get Fai/Kuro. I see them mostly as an underlying friendship but Fai just likes teasing Kuro because it gets to him since Kuro's that tough type of guy but to say it's underlying attraction is just nuts. At least there's something more there with Fai and Chii, I mean the way he looked when he saw her. Yes, you can say he's just afraid it's really her and of his past coming to haunt him but still, there's more there than between Fai and Kuro at least.| #12 Jun 14th 2006, 7:20pm | |
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KoruraHuh? I'm confused by how most of the answers here are KuroxTomo. KuroxFai is by far more popular, isn't it?But anyway... I think KuroxFai is the couple that has the most support. I mean, they have very frequent interactions, a lot of teasing, and a lot of serious conversations together. Tomoyo-hime and Kurogane only interacted briefly at the beginning of the first volume. You see some hints at Kurogane's attitude towards Tomoyo-hime at points, but she isn't actually THERE, so I say that CLAMP is definitely moving in the direction of KuroxFai. That said, I still really like the couple of KuroganexTomoyo. I think it's adorable. Posted by Asaka Kiseragi: Plus, CLAMP aren't one for breaking up canon couples or romantic feelings: Tomoyo was in love with Sakura in Cardcaptor Sakura, so I doubt CLAMP would change that just because of a new character. Tomoyo makes me all kinds of fangirl happy and giggly, but I think I'll leave her to love Sakura rather than pair her off with a new character CLAMP have made up. Here, I disagree. In the Hanshin Republic, Primera and Shougo are a couple. Primera's (unrequited) love for Lantis in Magic Knight Rayearth doesn't seem to exist. Since Tomoyo was left out of the romance in CCS, I really hope she can end up with someone. Maybe Kurogane, maybe her world's Souma. But somebody! Please! I really love that girl. Posted by Asaka Kiseragi: (I also loathe FaiXChi even more than KuroganeXTomoyo because that is outrightly breaking up a canon pairing. Tch. Let's leave Chi to Hideki.) I too loathe FaixChi, but mainly because I just... don't really see it. At all. I usually pair Fai with Ashura. In the first volume, when Fai wished Ashura peaceful dreams, it looked like Fai's heart was broken. I have no idea what was behind that, but I thought it was really sweet. | #13 Jun 17th 2006, 11:25pm | |
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FionesBring me my KuroxFai and leave Tomoyo for Sakura, kythnxbai.| #14 Jun 22nd 2006, 3:02pm | |
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SakuraKChanTomoyo and Sakura is another of fandom couples that just confuses me beyond belief. Are you guys that hungry for Yaoi and Yuri that you just take any type of interaction and make it a coupling? I can see a one sided Tomoyo/Sakura completely but not one that is shared.| #15 Jun 22nd 2006, 8:48pm | |
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xMysticxDawnxQuote by SakuraKChan:Tomoyo and Sakura is another of fandom couples that just confuses me beyond belief. Are you guys that hungry for Yaoi and Yuri that you just take any type of interaction and make it a coupling? I can see a one sided Tomoyo/Sakura completely but not one that is shared. I've noticed that, too. There are quite a number of yaoi and yuri pairings out there, which makes me wonder if everyone's had a homosexual experience sometime in their life to like them so much. I'm not against ** pairings at all, even if it might sound like it. I find Touya/Yukito adorable, Kamui/Fuuma has good probabilities, as does Subaru/Seishirou, and Souma/Kendappa are nice together, too... but you know, Tomoyo/Sakura is more like Sonomi/Nadeshiko. I mean, Sonomi (Tomoyo's mother) was crazy about Nadeshiko (Sakura's mother), but it wasn't a lovey-dovey kind of crazy, just like Tomoyo's craze for Sakura isn't lovey-dovey in my opinion. Everyone's got someone to look up to, some kind of role model whom he/she wants to be like. What about favorite actors and singers? I've seen lots of people go crazy over their favorite celebrities coming to their country and squeal over the fact that they can photograph them and film them, like Tomoyo likes filming Sakura. And since Tomoyo wasn't paired up with anyone in the end in CCS, it'd be nice for her to get together with Kurogane. She'd be the one to calm his nerves (or make him blow his top ;p) and make sure he doesn't get out of line. I think that Kurogane's love runs far deeper for Tomoyo than any feelings he might or might not have for Fye. Anyhow, Kurogane doesn't seem to be the type of person to openly admit his feelings. You understand what he feels through his actions, not through his words. I think the only way for him to actually confess his love to Tomoyo (assuming he does love Tomoyo, as CLAMP is still refusing to clear things up) would be for her to be dying. I don't mean to sound so harsh, but I think that'd be the only way for him to swallow his manly pride and admit it before it's too late. | #16 Jun 23rd 2006, 8:36am | |
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Fiones:DI'm a lesbian in real life, if that counts for a homosexual experience in your book. As for liking Sakura/Tomoyo, in the manga it was very...adorable. Will it ever happen? No. Should I care? No. I like it because I think it's cute and it's rather deep, in a strange sense. It's different and less cliché than the typical Syaoran/Sakura. I don't care if it's canon or makes much sense. I still like it, the way I think Tomoyo/Chii is cute. As for Kurogane/Tomoyo, please. While I don't mind if people like it, they certainly are free to do so, if Kurogane gets hooked up with anyone in the series, it's gonna be Fai most likely. And even that probably isn't gonna happen because from the looks of it, Fai's gonna get killed off sooner or later. Because it's CLAMP. They do stuff like that. And besides...it would make much more sense for Kurogane to fall in love with and be paired up with someone who, you know, is actually there. o.o I'm not saying Kurogane/Tomoyo doesn't have it's hints but it's just not gonna happen. | #17 Jun 23rd 2006, 11:28am | |
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FionesTomoyo and Sakura is another of fandom couples that just confuses me beyond belief. Are you guys that hungry for Yaoi and Yuri that you just take any type of interaction and make it a coupling? I can see a one sided Tomoyo/Sakura completely but not one that is shared.Not at all. I love het pairings as much as yaoi and yuri pairings. I just happen to like more yaoi/yuri pairings within the CLAMP world because most of the het pairings seem so...cliché. And really, so Sakura/Tomoyo isn't canon and didn't happen in the actual manga means that people aren't allowed to ship it? The Kuro/Tomo fans seem to think that the Kuro/Fai fans are pulling hints out of thin air, when really, both sides are doing that. The interactions between Kuro/Tomo, little as they are, seem much more like brother/sister things. Almost like Touya and Sakura. Does that stop people from shipping them? No. So why should fans stop shipping Tomoyo/Sakura because there are little to no hints when people take characters who have NO hints at all and pair them? | #18 Jun 23rd 2006, 11:38am | |
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xMysticxDawnxI don't deny that there is more interaction between Kurogane/Fye than Kurogane/Tomoyo, but that's only because they're traveling together and are in close proximity to each other. There must have certainly been more interaction between Kurogane and Tomoyo before he left Japan, it's just that CLAMP hasn't shown it to us. As a KuroganexTomoyo fan, I don't think that the KxF fans are pulling things out of thin air, because, hey, it's there. It's obvious Fye feels for Kurogane. I just don't see Kurogane returning those feelings. And as I said before, even if he were in love with Tomoyo, he'd still have difficulty admitting it because that's just the way he is.Quote by Alice Midnight: The interactions between Kuro/Tomo, little as they are, seem much more like brother/sister things. Almost like Touya and Sakura. Does that stop people from shipping them? No. So why should fans stop shipping Tomoyo/Sakura because there are little to no hints when people take characters who have NO hints at all and pair them? If you're saying that there are no hints for Kurogane/Tomoyo, then you're wrong. I'm not afraid to admit that there're Kurogane/Fye hints, but you are apparently in total denial of KxT hints. I found a very interesting livejournal entry the other day, discussing the odds of KxT and KxF, and I think we should all take a look at it. It provides a lot of insight. Right here: http://ninjatrauma.livejournal.com/69567.html | #19 Jun 24th 2006, 12:40am | |
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SakuraKChanIn all honesty I really think Fai just teases Kurogane because it ticks him off. Kurogane's personality is a lot like Syaoran's from CCS and if you all remember, Eriol would love to call him little names to tick him off. Granted, there are the ExS shippers out there who'll just say it's some connection of love but I really think it's because both Fai and Eriol think it's hillarious to get a rise out of the stoic Kurogane and Syaoran. Now, to say those teases are flirting and Fai's showing of how he secretly loves Kurogane is just a bit too much. I honestly believe there's far much more to Fai's true personality than we know. We all like viewing him as a laid back funny guy but I believe that's really his disguise. Mokona has already pointed this out, stating how Fai is really lonely and well I just think there is so much more to him than what we see and he hides it behind his easy going attitude. So that's why I really can't take that teasing as some sign that he lusts Kurogane. I think if you view it in that way then you're viewing Fai in the wrong way and looking too deeply for the wrong thing. That's just my personal view.| #20 Jun 25th 2006, 9:24am | |
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StarSparklezI like... hum. Okay I ADORE both Fay and Kurogane, I love the funny intereactions between the two, the whole ying-yang, black and white relationship/difference thingy, call it whatever you want.BUT! I like the idea of Tomoyo finally getting her share in a pairing with a good, nice guy. So sorry but this vote is for 'Kuromoyo'( I just made up this term! Genius, neh? *Is whacked dead on the head*) (*Ressurects*) You know, the thruth is, I really can never understand YaoiFangirls, I mean, when you absolutely love two male characters, does that mean you have to pair them up together coz no female in the show deserves them? (if thats the last point I totally understand *nods*) I mean, one would think you'd be wanting them for yourselves rather than just one for the other. But then again, I guess I will never understand homosexuality... It's annoying to know though, that there are so many out there supporting the Kuro-Fai ship. Hetero-shipper are ludicrously outnumbered! It's just not fair! Don't get me wrong, I lived with the Yukito/Toya thingy just fine but... I just get this painful feeling it's more about having a new canon slash pair then about the actual relation between the characters. And the idea CLAMP just might pair just might pair up Kuro/Fai just to please those many fans terrifies me, especially if they had it planned differently in the start... I think too many of the TRC fics still need to work on the new TRC characters' actual personality, it's just full of OOCness and poor plots out there... Okay, so CLAMP'S old characters are here, but most are either older or obviously different from the ones they were in their original series. By looking at their 'background' you get ideas for the 'new them', it's like AU's, CLAMP is giving it's fans a HUGE opportunity to think if the characters in a different way, they're not imposing their 'original position' on us... (Heck! They went as far as giving us two identical Syaorans! Well almost anyway...) So think of the old characters and refer to how they were in our fics or expectation for the next chapters of TRC, yes, but choose to make from that 'limits' in what kind of relationship they could intertain with other characters of different series, NO! That's insulting the freedom of fanfiction. Is what I'm trying to say getting through? 'Cause I know I'm not very good at english... The thing is, when I first read The first chapter of TRC, I thought, Oh well, good, the same characters, very similar relationships, could be interesting in the start but might get boring as time goes by. That is until I read chapter two and saw there were exclusive characters and that a new Chii and new Tomoyo were intertaining with them. That's when I jumped and went all like, 'CLAMP are geniuses! Again, they manage to pleasantly surprise me.' Maybe the 1st impression I got from the 1st few chapters has left me too biased now to think differently but, I really LOVED the idea of Tomoyo/Kurogane and ... Well... Please don't shoot me *looks down and starts fumbling with her fingers* Fai/Chii. *Dodges many dangerous objects flying her way* I just do! I mean, Chii is just loveable in her new form, she just looks so much more desirable and real(and cuddly), and I'm sure there is more to her then her being simply Fai's creation. Ep.32 has enforced my belief in this, blame CLAMP for torturing me by giving me fake hopes rather than blatantly hit me with a brick of thruth in the face... Besides I always thought Hideki was nothing but a lucky jerk anyway... Never liked him... And Tomoyo/Kurogane could be very real, I did anticipate a Kuro/Fai thingy when I watched the first 3 episodes of TRC, but then when I saw the part where Kuro says he'll only serves Tomoyo, well, that was the heavy but happy brick in the face... Do I make my self understood here? No even a bit? Oh well... I'm not against trying other pairings either, like Tomoyo/Nokoru in Piffle for example(I'm just picking a random example), anything goes since they all have different stories in different worlds. I mean really, I just don't want Kurogane and Fay to be just gays, coz slash is like the latest fashion in anime fandoms... or so that's just how I feel. Honestly, you can have them being a special pair, give them a particular relationship, make a bond, make them find comfort in the other's presence, I don't mind, I don't care: I agree they share something uncommon and that it makes them all the more loveable. But keep it platonic!! It doesn't mean they have to be a couple! I don't want that to be the case, I'd probably kill me, or more like, kill the characters for me. But that's just my humble opinion. You can perfectly dismiss it as the deranged ideas of an imbecile, I have nothing to say for myself. lol Anyway, I've been babbling rambling nonsense for too long, so see you next post. Until then, Koromoyo, Syaokura( n do you dare defy that ship!) and... well Faichii-ness rules coz I say so and anyone who says otherwise sucks!XP XP (xp take that kurofai fangals!!!) *Runs to dimentional witch for means of rapid escape to a far away different dimension!* (I'm sooo in Fai's situation!) | #21 Aug 11th 2006, 7:05am | |
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FionesHmm...*defies Syoaran/Sakura by shipping Eriol/Sakura* :P So there....How a person can be a CLAMP fan at all and be against shounen-ai will never make sense to me. Most CLAMP works that even involve romance are sort of, love defies all no matter what the situation or the genders. That's what Chobits was about, right? *shakes head at the simple-mindedness of some people* Hmm...Miss Start, out of curiousty, do you only watch the anime or do you read the manga up to the most recent chapters? *wide, evil smile* | #22 Aug 20th 2006, 10:33am | |
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SakuraKChanI'm not sure about Miss Star but I know that I have been keeping up with the chapters up to the very most recent one. And I am def. not against shounen-ai just against ones that are paired off from the very start and have this following of god only knows how many before any evidence is shown. And I know you'll probably say one particular scene from chapitre 124 means there's Fai/Kuro but at the same time I think Kuro would've acted the same no matter who it was. However, there have been hints toward Kuro/Tomo as well if you remember the chapitre regarding his past and also the numerous instances in which Kuro seemed to miss her and even Fai would point out those instances as well. There also seems to be a magazine spread in Newtype regarding the two, one I should've translated but forgot because I've been lazy with my newfound free time x.x;| #23 Aug 20th 2006, 11:02am | |
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FionesChapter 124 is actually not what I'm thinking of. XD It's chapter 125, really, that got me thinking it had a chance at canon. Because even though I liked the overall chemistry I felt the two had from the beginning I never thought it would be canon. Than 125 came along and, well...now I think it really can go either way from here.And it's funny you should mention the idea of Kurogane doing the same thing for anyone. Over at the KuroxFai community we had the same discussion on that topic and it turned out very interesting. Two things were concluded upon, the first being that Kurogane /would/ have done the same for Syaoran or Sakura but /not/ have acted the same way. It would have been more calm sort of scenario. And the second thing we realized was that it doesn't matter whether he would have done the same for the others because he /didn't/ do it for any of the others. He did do it for /Fai/. That's what CLAMP wanted and intended and it had to be that way. No other way around it. The full conversation was here: http://community.livejournal.com/kuroxfai/200660.html#cutid1 As for the hints towards Kurogane/Tomoyo, for the life of me I've never been able to see the /romance/ hints. The protectiveness, yes. The deep connection and caring, yes. Romantic love, not so much. I mean, I understand where the fans of it are coming from but I highly doubt it was meant to be interpurted as romance. Fai/Chii, I will never get my mind around at all. She was in one chapter. One. And hasn't come back since. And she's basically Fai's pet. o.o I think the best explanation about Kurogane/Fai was here: http://community.livejournal.com/ship_manifesto/146280.html It's a Kurogane/Fai manifesto on LJ, an essay type thing. :3 It's certainly interesting, and it may give non-KuroFai fans things to consider/think about/etc. Even I, a KuroFai fan, was surprised at some of the stuff that I had never picked up before. :3 So...yeah, I'm gonna go back over to my lovely YGO fandom now. :D | #24 Aug 20th 2006, 11:33am | |
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SakuraKChanwell I'm not exactly a Fai/Chii fan myself so I'm not actually rooting for that but I am looking at the overall picture and yes I mixed up 124 with 125, believe me I have read all the chaptires up to date. As for the theory from the community, again, it is just a theory and to be honest, for all we know none of these theories could be correct. Maybe it has a chance and maybe it doesn't, I particularly think though that there was more proof for Kuro/Tomo overall rather than one or two scenes within an intense situation. But everyone's free to think what they want, that's my opinion. The only ones who know the full truth is CLAMP and we'll just have to see which way they go.| #25 Aug 20th 2006, 11:38am | |
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FionesI don't think it much matters anyway since I get the distinct impression Fai's gonna get killed off sooner or later anyway. ;-;| #26 Aug 20th 2006, 11:44am | |
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StarSparklezMiss Star reads the mangas, she is up to date with recent chapter(gasp! Fai Darling!) and whatches the anime as well.She does not deny the KxF special relationship thingy, she just doesn't want some of the hotest hunks of CLAMP's creation to be 'just gays'. Certainly, I don't see Kuro turning that way anytime soon, Fay, well, he's definitely not straight but, I do have stubborn poor hopes. Besides, the hints are there for both KxT and KxF, I've had loads of discussion about this on a different forum now but, I still prefer KxT (understatement that is). But hey, the hints were there, blame CLAMP for giving us so many fake hopes, it's like they enjoy our heartbreaks. StarSparklez has mighty, unshedable principles that have caused her incurable homophobia. Anyway, although there is close to nothing about FayChii, besides what we've sen of BeeTrain fillers, I just love the pairing, episode 32 was so fluffy XD and I am a sucker for fluff involving hugeable characters. Okay? Honestly, the SxS in this series is kinda...soapy, boring... But maybe that's just me. Besides Alice M., your last statement about CLAMP killing Fay off. Yeah, I so totally felt that too, that something horrible was gonna happen to him. But I hope the whole chap 125 events were enough torture. I have to see next chappie and then I'd be able to tell wether or not CLAMP has more in store for the poor magician( who now is also vampire, people that is just sexy!). I do see it happen though still, but I wouldn't really know. I hope nothing happen to Kurogane too. 'Cause I fear CLAMP just might have the 'big plan' of removing them out of the way J.K ROWLING style so the Syaoran is alone to face the big boss. Hope to Dear God that's not the case and that things work for the best, there was just too much ansgt so far and I need a breather! | #27 Aug 20th 2006, 1:40pm | |
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FionesAlice has never understood why people on FF.net insist on calling her Alice M. or Alice Midnight instead of just plain Alice. :/The hints for KxT seem more...forced, if you ask me. But that could just be me being strange. *shrugs* I think, I saw the slightest hints for KxT up until chapter 125. That, to me, just blew away the possibility of Kurogane or Fai ever having a relationship with anyone else solely because of how awkward it would. Imagine Tomoyo waking up one morning and looking around for her missing lover Kurogane, only to find him sitting calmly at the table while Fai's sucks his blood. Not the most...normal or happy thing to wake to. It would just be too awkward. And there's still some other*coughcoughshe'salesbiancoughcough* issues that need to be taken into consideration. The idea of principles is a foreign concept to Alice for she has none and still does not understand how you can be a CLAMP fan and be homophobic when half their works have shounen-ai and shoujo-ai couples. :/ Never watched the anime so Alice knows nothing of these evil fillers of which you speak. Alice does not have a great love for normal Chii, though, as Chobits to Alice is one of CLAMP's worst works. Dark!Chii, Alice has a strange liking for. :D I'm pretty sure Fai's still got a ways to go and I find it hard to think that he'll make it to the end of the manga. Anime...I doubt he'll even lose his eye. -.- The idea of him as a vampire, though, is one Alice is less than happy about.I don't think either Syaorans are going to die but I think Fai is probably gonna get killed by Ashura-ou, who has to wake up eventually and very soon. And I have this nagging feeling that the moment Fai decides he /does not/ want to die is gonna be the moment he does die. Just this nagging feeling. Kurogane, I think, may come /close/ to death but not actually die because killing him off would also result in Fai's death and I see no point in killing them both off. o.o But who knows, CLAMP may do some tricky buisness. -.- But Yuuko said that all four of them would face Fei Wong Reid, which really doesn't mean Fai or Kurogane can't die because she could mean both Clone!Syaoran and Real!Syaoran and not necessarily the primary four. ...I've been in very fluffy fandoms lately so I'd actually like more angst. Tsubasa, in a whole, hasn't had too much until now and I doubt it'll have much fluff at all the rest of the series. ...unless they bring in Touya and Yukito again. Which would make Alice insanely happy. :3 Alice will now stop referring to herself in third person. | #28 Aug 21st 2006, 11:36am | |
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StarSparklezlol, I love your reply Alice.And I very much agree with you in what concerns Fay's fate. There is just something about it that makes me think CLAMP is gonna break our hearts. But let's all hope for the better. Besides, what I do see happening, is Kurogane finishing him off. Which scares me, terrifies me. But I guess we'll just have to hope and see. Recent chapters' event sure did a lot to twist the plot. Oh, and it is quite possible to be a CLAMP fan when homophobic, all one has to do is pointedly ignore the signs or interpretate them as platonic. It works, so long as no pro-** fans point out at one otherwise and let them leave inside their own bliss. lol Really, it is all about how one wishes to see a character. | #29 Aug 21st 2006, 12:32pm | |
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FionesI aim to please *coughmyselfcough*. :3I'm actually a bit worried on how this can all work out in the end because CLAMP said in a recent interview that Tsubasa will have a happy ending and I can't get my mind around how it can possibly work out that way. I'm also waiting for Ashura-ou to wake up~ If that is the case, I highly suggest you never read Legal Drug or Miyuki-chan in Wonderland. :3 | #30 Aug 22nd 2006, 2:21pm | |
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StarSparklezThank you kindly. I shall take your advise and avoid doing so. I already did go through a few pages of Legal Drug and the style in drawing did appeal to me but I have yet to discover it, or not afterall lol. I'm very picky, but now TRC has me think it is a sin to pretend you can draw if you can't even trace lines the way CLAMP does there.Crazy? Yes probably, but at least I enjoy every page of that mangas. | #31 Aug 22nd 2006, 2:37pm | |
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Toko Tsuki*giggle* KuroFay, I think of Tomoyo as the random Yaoi fangirl who chases Kuro and Fay around-writing doujins, stories, drawing pictures~! In fact, I'm going to go write a story about that ^^ these Fourms are always so awsome and inspirational, phwweeee~! ♥Bunny-Kuro-Kuro hopping around bopping Mokonas' heads and Fairy Fay ready to turn him into a frog~! -ToKoMooN | #32 Apr 24th 2007, 2:33pm | |
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xXTomokoXxKUROxTOMOYO ~Hyuu!!!| #33 Jul 24th 2007, 6:29pm | |
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Lady GyrfalconMm, it seems like a happy ending would be a bit of a challenge. :OI find these kind of discussions difficult, my stance as a KuroFai shipper is a bit of a cloud on my judgement. But, FaiChii is no longer possible with the latest chapters, and since *spoilers* the group has now ended up in Kurogane's Japan, there will be more interactions between Kuro-tan and Tomoyo for anyone who wishes to analyse them. *spoiler end* Hmm... Discussion... It's irritating. But for one thing I didn't read Tsubasa and immediately say "Ha! A chance for a BL pairing! I must slash them!" I have Legal Drug volumes 1 and 2, but what is Miyuki-chan in Wonderland? | #34 Oct 12th 2007, 2:22pm | |
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Shou-HatoBOTH. NEITHER. Both because I like both pairings and neither because my OTP and fav character so put Kurogane with is Sakura, even though it obviously has zero chances of happening. But I don't really care. I just love the pairing. | #35 Mar 26th 2008, 12:18pm | |
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Thoughtless7KuroFai because GAWD, after Acid Tokyo, seeing the lengths Kuro went to to dave Fai...and then his arm...! Tomoyo, I can't picture her with Kurogane. They seem very...sibling-like, maybe? He's devoted to protect her similar to the way Toya is devoted to Sakura. | #36 Apr 17th 2008, 7:25pm | |
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PotpourriiI think Kuropie and Fai. I don't even like that stuff, but I'm with everyone else. Anyway, I'm still to attached to Eriol and Tomoyo from CCS 3 | #37 Apr 20th 2008, 4:04pm | |
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SASUKE'S PENIS IS ANGRY.KuroFai has an immense amount of hints, KuroTomo doesn't. Besides, Tomoyo's supposed to be a lesbian, and Kurogane's not a woman. | #38 Apr 20th 2008, 6:46pm | |
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Thoughtless7CLAMP is very unchanging with their 'most important person' thing. If Tomoyo's most important person is Sakura in one dimension, it's the same with the others. :3 Just look at Piffle world! | #39 Apr 20th 2008, 7:21pm | |
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SASUKE'S PENIS IS ANGRY.Then there's another reason FaiChii doesn't work, haha. Where's Hideki when you need him? xD | #40 Apr 20th 2008, 7:25pm | |
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Thoughtless7You know what surprised me? That we haven't seen like, other dimension!Fai or other dimension!Kurogane, etc, like we did with Touya and Yukito. I would find that hilarious. | #41 Apr 20th 2008, 7:30pm . Edited Apr 20th 2008, 7:31pm | |
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SASUKE'S PENIS IS ANGRY.That would be really, really awkward. xD And confusing, actually. Most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference, haha. Which is probably why they haven't done it. I know I'd be REALLY freaked out if I saw myself in some other dimension. D: | #42 Apr 20th 2008, 7:34pm | |
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Thoughtless7What would be doubly hilarious, if they pulled the thing like they did in Futurama. Fai 1 (the original): So, you two are friends, just like me and my Kuro-pi! ^_^ Fai 2: Oh, no. Actually, we're married. ^_^ Kurogane 1: O.O | #43 Apr 20th 2008, 7:40pm | |
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ItOnlyHurtsAtFirstIf you think about it, my dear Tomo-Kuro fans, the idea of a Fai-Kurogane pairing might not be too far off. Really, what is a CLAMP manga without a homosexual couple anyway and there are more than enough signs to back up the Fai-Kuro idea. It's obviose Fai is gay and has feelings for Kurogane but kurogane also drops hints that he may feel the same way. In Manga volumes 15 amd 16 Kurogane asks Fai what his deal was and told fai something along the lines of "you act like you don't care but then you go and risk your life to save us. You need to make up your mind. Our conversation isn't over yet." and then Syaoran (the clone) rips out Fai's eye and eats it and Kurogane starts freaking out and telling Syaoran to give Fai to him and very badly wants to beat the clone if he weren't so afraid that Fai would die. He carries Fai to a bed where he lays him down and consults Yuko. He asks Yuko if there is a way to save Fai and when Fai says he wanted to die Kurogane told him it wasn't his decision to make. I heard that after those volumes Kurogane has Fai turned into a vampire and allows him to feed off of his blood to survive and even goes as far as to cut off his own arm to save Fai. Not to mention that they play kind of a Mother/Father role to Sakura and Syaoran. Which makes Mokona what? A family cat? Honestly guys. I think it's only a matter of time before they hook up. So I guess I'd have to say that I have a Fai/Kurogane complex.| #44 May 12th 2008, 1:43pm | |
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ItOnlyHurtsAtFirstIf you think about it, my dear Tomo-Kuro fans, the idea of a Fai-Kurogane pairing might not be too far off. Really, what is a CLAMP manga without a homosexual couple anyway and there are more than enough signs to back up the Fai-Kuro idea. It's obviose Fai is gay and has feelings for Kurogane but kurogane also drops hints that he may feel the same way. In Manga volumes 15 amd 16 Kurogane asks Fai what his deal was and told fai something along the lines of "you act like you don't care but then you go and risk your life to save us. You need to make up your mind. Our conversation isn't over yet." and then Syaoran (the clone) rips out Fai's eye and eats it and Kurogane starts freaking out and telling Syaoran to give Fai to him and very badly wants to beat the clone if he weren't so afraid that Fai would die. He carries Fai to a bed where he lays him down and consults Yuko. He asks Yuko if there is a way to save Fai and when Fai says he wanted to die Kurogane told him it wasn't his decision to make. I heard that after those volumes Kurogane has Fai turned into a vampire and allows him to feed off of his blood to survive and even goes as far as to cut off his own arm to save Fai. Not to mention that they play kind of a Mother/Father role to Sakura and Syaoran. Which makes Mokona what? A family cat? Honestly guys. I think it's only a matter of time before they hook up. So I guess I'd have to say that I have a Fai/Kurogane complex.| #45 May 12th 2008, 2:14pm | |
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Thoughtless7Lol, family cat. :D | #46 May 12th 2008, 7:15pm | |
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gwendal's wifeOMG! I've got nothing against people who like Kurogane/Tomoyo, but here's my insight: When I first saw this, I thought, "It's gonna be Kuro/Fay, by a landslide." Think again, I told myself. I was surprised with all the Kuro/Tomoyo! I only consider their relationship to be ruler/warrior, nothing else. And it's quite obvious that Kuro/Fay is more famous. There are like millions of clues in all sections of the manga starting at volume 3 and it's obvious that Fay was flirting with Kurogane from day 1. Haha. Anyway, as I've said, I've got nothing against the PEOPLE who like the pairing, but I do have something against the PAIRING. Personally, though I am straight, for some reason I just don't like hetero. It always has to be shonen-ai. And a relationship between a teenage age queen and an adult warrior? Not my type! Kurogane and Fay are both adults, so that's a plus. And they share blood (or should I say, Fay drinks Kurogane's blood), so that's another plus. On top of that, Kurogane found out the meaning of "true strength", which I'm assuming has something to do with Fay. And as Yuuko-san said to Fay: "You have become a very important person to them. You are not just someone who passes by in their life and will be forgotten." (Or something like this. I quoted this from mind, but this was from volume 17) It's just proof that Fay has become very important to Kurogane, and that's something. That's just not something close minded persons call "friendship". It's obviously more than that. Anyway, I hope I'm not making any mad here, but long live shonen-ai. Kuro/Fay it is! -gw- | #47 May 21st 2008, 2:47am | |
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TheFanFictionAlchemistWow! There are a lot of KuroTomo people on here. I thought that KuroFAi would win hands down. I love KuroFai, abover all others. My reasoning: (spoilery) Point one- Kurogane is absolutely devoted to Fai, in my mind. ANd Fai to him. He makes Fai a vampire, rather than let him die. He makes sure Fai doesn't try to hurt himself after stabing Sakura in Infinity. He cuts off his own arm for him. He saves him again, and again, and agian, past the point that you can say he only does it because he is in thier group.( I don't think he'd ever let Sakurs live off his blood. Or chop off an arm for Syoran.) And he never once blames Fai for the stuff that hapened to him in his past. He forgives him for everything as well. Even if we never hear him say the words, Fai was downright cruel to him in Infinity. But, after 169, everything is Ok between them again. So, I think that implies forgiveness. Not to mention, they are so cute together. Thier contrasting personalities, and looks. Yet, somehow complimenting each other as well. Point two- Tomoyo in CCS had a crush on Sakura. And seems to in TRC when they go to piffle. This means logicaly, she is a lesbian, and thus, not interested in men. Also. thier intersactions always seemed so sibling like to me. They are very close, yes, but I do not believe in that way.| #48 May 22nd 2008, 12:23pm | |
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Thoughtless7... *squeals at your icon* Eee, Fai is my favorite jail-bait~ | #49 May 22nd 2008, 6:33pm | |
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The Forsaken GirlAhem... well, I'm a bit new at this, so I'm just going to state my opinion and why :)....I am a very loyal Kurofai shipper(which is really obvious if anyone here has read any of my fics XD) and honestly, I don't quite know how I became this enthusiastic about a shonen-ai pairing... First of all, when I started Tsubasa, I was just ready for some Syaoran and Sakura (I had watched CCS a year or two ago, and I began to miss them a bit) and I read about the two completely original characters, Kurogane and Fai. I was just all "hmm, okay, sounds good, not really interested, but whatever" about the two...I like to browse around on the internet about a certain manga or anime I'm about to start, so I noticed a lot of comments around kurogane and fai being together, as a pairing... And back then, I was not very...should I say, inclined, towards shonen-ai pairings...I admit, I probably was slightly homophobic and kinda scooted away from BL pairings (although I believe I really liked Touya/Yukito in CCS... :D) So I thought that once I got into the manga, I'd probably ship Tomoyo/Kurogane, or even Kurogane/Souma (wait! I've only read CCS, TRC, and xxxHOLIC... I know Souma's with Kendappa now, but I didn't know back then!don't hurt me, loyal canon shippers! XD)...but then Outo came...and then Shara/Shura came...and then Piffle came...and then Tokyo came, and Infinity came, and Celes and Nihon and now Clow.....and now I'm totally in love with the two together... For me, there never was a pinpoint time where I came to believe "yes! they're together!" but it was more of a gradual liking of this pairing more and more... I think I became consciously aware of it during Piffle (i know, weird time) where Kurogane and Fai had all of those conversations and Fai notices Kurogane's injuries and it really felt...right, to me...and then chapter 130 came, with Fai saying "I didn't notice I crossed the border with him...If I forgive him ,I'll be even closer to him(saying this off the top of my head, can't exactly remember)" which just proved how canon and real this pairing could be... I don't really think I have to even explain why chapter 167 and 169 made me the happiest fangirl alive, but I should say chapter 185 was really a favorite moment between the two... Fai punching Kurogane was just awesome, and it reminded me of a married couple with their interactions... As for Kurogane/Tomoyo and FaiChii, well....I have nothing against the shippers, but I really just can't truly understand where they are coming from other than "they look cute togehter!" I think this discussion explains why the two other pairings aren't really possible...it's written by Altomare, who explains everything flawlessly... here's the URL: http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/pairsdiscussion.msnw? action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=14080&LastModified=4675673104541328809 So that's pretty much all I have to say...sorry for a rambling post, I seem to do that a lot... :) | #50 May 26th 2008, 1:35pm . Edited Aug 22nd 2008, 6:49pm | |
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