This poll is a result of a challenge from SNS. Surely you know should know by now that I hardly ever back away from a challenge.

Warning:

If anyone comes here to bash others, I will ban you. No questions asked. I do not want the crap going on at Z's forum to leak in here, understood?

definately non-cannon stories.

1 You get a wider variaty of stories.

2 If you disagree with the cannon you can find stories that have what you like.

3 It's fun to see how authors get non-cannon pairings together.

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Gee, canon only...that would mean no Jade, no MoRon, no Tade, no RuGo (wait, maybe I need to think about that)....

I like writers who write good stories, regardless of ship. TPTB are no longer in P, so they are, technically, the powers that were (TPTW). They came, they saw, they created, and they are off to other adventures.

They did good work, but someone obviously liked fanfiction (the Shego Rocks, the Lotus Bloom, the 'good Shego's comment after lighting MrDrP's newspaper: "Oops!").

That's my opinion.

...cpneb

ok i need to ask what do those acronyms mean

Definitely Canon when it comes to the core pairing Kim/Ron. The best writers (IMHO) on FF.net are still creative with those two not being OOC

Sir, have you read Define, Hell? I am curious because you stated that you like writers who are still creative with K/R not being OOC, but what if something causes them to be different: an event so monstrous that it shakes them to their very core?

Read the Define, Hell 'verse in sequence, and you'll understand what I'm talking about. IMHO, the best writers on Kim Possible FF.net (since there's a whole lot of other ff out there, in here) are the ones who write, and they have taken Kim and Ron both IC and OOC, including writing them in other relationships than K/R (yes, some of the stauchiest K/R shippers here have written Kim and Ron with others than each other).

...cpneb

So far they haven't so I don't have to indulge in what ifs. Yet I'm sure they would label the story so we would have the option to skip over it if we choose.

Everyone has a humble opinion, I didn't ask anyone to agree with mine since its probable that I won't agree with theirs.

IMHO Great Ice Cream doesn't need sprinkles and syrup :D lol

I'm closing this poll down and locking the thread come Sunday, so be sure to tell your friends about this poll so we can have an accurate portrayal of a wide variety of readers and writers.

theotherdave:

never had Ben and Jerry's Cherry Garcia with sprinkles, huh? LOL

responded to you via PM

...cpneb

*puts on flame-retardant suit, hopes for the best*

Hrrm...

Y'all mind if I get a lil' nitpicky here?

*assumes the answer is "no"*

Okay, so: while I think the poll is a good one, there's one big problem with it: I believe SNS was specifically referring to non-canon pairings, and that specificity doesn't seem to have been reflected here. While I appreciate the danger of, you know, the psychotic fanboys from all sides corrupting this thread the way they have corrupted so many in the past, the way you have it phrased at the moment doesn't really prove anything to SNS, which, I would assume, was the intention. I mean, I can't answer one way or the other, because I like both types of stories listed. I can't say I prefer "non-canon," because that is wedded to "fast and loose with the canon," which I'm personally not about at all. Then there's "canon," but I can't say that either, because that's wedded to "TPTB's POV," and I'm not necessarily of the opinion that TPTB's POV is absolutely infallible either. And, as I said, I like any good stories, canon or no. Unfortunately, I can't think of any more accurate way to phrase it other than "K/R" and "non-canon pairings," which would probably cause the crazies to come out of the woodwork and get this thread locked. As such, I'm stumped. It's very much the prototypical Hobson's Choice, no?

(Is that the phrase? "Hobson's Choice?" Hmm...)

As a matter of fact, I'm worried that even posting this might cause them to skitter in like mad cockroaches. But it had to be said, dammit!

Anyway, I'm voting for "non-canon," but guiltily. Guiltily, sir!

*cowers in corner, fears for the safety of this thread*

Ffordesoon:

SNS did reffer to all non-canon, not just the pairings. He can correct me if I am wrong, but he does not like anything out of canon. Period. This is what he challenged for, and he got his challenge.

I voted for non-canon, though it isn't that clear for me. The best kind of story for me is one that builds on canon but starts living a life of its own as it progresses. For example, there could be a story in which Kim and Ron are very much a couple in the beginning, just like in canon, but something in the story's plot causes them to drift apart and start a relationship with other people. As long as it's well developed in the context of that story, I don't really care how non-canon it goes.

On the other hand, I think that every story should have roots in canon. Characterization and character interaction are what in my opinion make or break a story, so they shouldn't be ignored for the sake of plot or pairing. I'm a fan of the extremely implausible Monkey Fist/Ron pairing, but no matter how much I like that couple, I can't stomach stories that ignore the obstacles that canon has set for us. Ron loves Kim, they're enemies, they have a massive age difference. These are canon facts, and every good Monty/Ron fic should at least acknowledge them or work around them in a believable manner. And no, the tired "I always had feelings for you but never admitted it to anyone" plot point is nothing but a cheap way out.

I know I only talked about pairings, but this goes for pretty much everything else as well. One of my favourite fics at the moment is ignoring the events of certain episodes, and I'm very much loving the character exploration and plot development because they will lead the main character to a very different ending than the one he had in canon.

I voted for non-canon, though it isn't that clear for me. The best kind of story for me is one that builds on canon but starts living a life of its own as it progresses. For example, there could be a story in which Kim and Ron are very much a couple in the beginning, just like in canon, but something in the story's plot causes them to drift apart and start a relationship with other people. As long as it's well developed in the context of that story, I don't really care how non-canon it goes.

On the other hand, I think that every story should have roots in canon. Characterization and character interaction are what in my opinion make or break a story, so they shouldn't be ignored for the sake of plot or pairing. I'm a fan of the extremely implausible Monkey Fist/Ron pairing, but no matter how much I like that couple, I can't stomach stories that ignore the obstacles that canon has set for us. Ron loves Kim, they're enemies, they have a massive age difference. These are canon facts, and every good Monty/Ron fic should at least acknowledge them or work around them in a believable manner. And no, the tired "I always had feelings for you but never admitted it to anyone" plot point is nothing but a cheap way out.

I know I only talked about pairings, but this goes for pretty much everything else as well. One of my favourite fics at the moment is ignoring the events of certain episodes, and I'm very much loving the character exploration and plot development because they will lead the main character to a very different ending than the one he had in canon.

Which is exactly my take on it. You see why I have a problem. Mike The Industrious has spoken, however, and I'll respect that.

EDIT: Well, it's my take on it if you replace Ron/MF with Kim/Shego, anyway.

This subject has come up in other forms before.

I don't need canon. I want CANNON! Kim Possible is a BLAST!

By non-canon, not only do I mean non-canon pairings, KiGo, Ron/Tara, Josh/Shego, but I also mean AU's like Nacho Boy and Dragon Lady or Middlewood.

I believe that all stories do have their roots, at least the smallest part, in canon, or else it wouldn't be fanfiction, it would be fiction with two characters named Kim and Ron. I hope this kinda clears things up a bit

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