Lily's husband, Harry's daddy, Ginny's father-in-law, James/Albus/Lily's grandpa, Sirius/Remus/Peter's best friend, victim of Voldemort.

Obviously, James was born while his parents were quite a bit older - so he was doted upon and had a big ego when he was in Hogwarts, where he met Lily.

Hm.. do you guys think it was love at first sight (for James) or did the crush start later on? (it was there by fifth year, that's for sure)

Not intentionally, I just noticed :)

and they're fairly popular (except even more harsh than Gred and Forge, I mean hanging Sniv-uhm, Severus?)

James and Sirius are rather evil, are they? -hmph. -gets mad at them-

But, as much as I love Sirius, I can't imagine him ever growing out of that nice-to-his-loved-ones-and-cruel-to-everyone-else stage. He's only lovable to the people who care about him.

That's exactly right.

James was obviously spoiled by elder parents who doted upon him frequently and showered him with praise. That's how he turned out on the first day of school (and beyond)

Lily flattened his fathead :)

we need to see him out of lily.

How early do you think he fell in love with her, though? I've always thought very early on, like the end of first year or the beginning of second, but that's just me.

Isn't there some sort of quote going on about, "If you want people to like you, just be yourself."

but then again, he was a total bighead, so I guess Lily coming along was good (for deflating his head, but poor Sevv!)

James is the personification of a conceited teenage male (which in no way means he's a bad person). Empathy just isn't in his vocabulary, unless it's in regard to his friends, and I also think he's bright enough to see that Lily's more vulnerable than she makes out (see my bit about Lily if that doesn't make any sense). I think she really intrigues him, because she does hide herself a bit, and he genuinely does want to get to know her. He makes an effort when given the opportunity (7th year), because he strikes me as someone who is quite opportunistic, too. Which is what would make him a great Quidditch player, amongst other things.

And Lily and James both hated each other from the start. I imagine James and Sirius picking on her for fun when they were little...but no idea when James started to like her. Any suggestions?

I've often wondered now what James and Sirius and the others would have thought had they known what Snape had to give up and why and how he was working for Dumbledore and the order. I'll go now........................

I don't think James knew before he died/and Sirius was given the same explanation as Harry was from Dumbledore ;P otherwise he wouldnt' be so bitter. And Remus doesn't know either - or he's a very good actor in Half-Blood Prince. I think the first xD

"Cameo Images" by Procrastinator-starting-2morrow is an AMAZING lilyXjames writer.

Nah, they hated each other straight away in canon - remember the scene on the train when James and Sirius were mean to Snape.

Forgot about that scene...thanks for reminding me! :D

I think that Lily and James are meant to be, but I do love a good old angsty SiriusxLily. Does anyone else?

I highly doubt it was ‘love at first sight’. James Potter was eleven years old when he met Lily Evans. He was very bigheaded, very young, and spoiled. I think James was far too busy loving himself then to begin loving Lily - who was just a freckly girl in Gryffindor.

Plus, James was too busy to think about girls what with founding the Marauders, becoming an infamous prankster, forging friendships, and helping Moony with his furry little problem. (Though James probably had many little crushes before Lily.)

I think his big crush on her initially started a few years after he met Lily - around third year, or fourth.

I agree with Cuban Sumbrero Gal. Plus, being a Gryffindor there is a natural prejudice against Slytherins and vise-a-versa. But there was a good reason to hate Slytherins in that time. Voldemort was rising to power, becoming more dangerous every day, and the Slytherins were obvious supporters of him. Especially Snape.

I think James viewed the Slytherins as the bad guys, and Gryffindors as the good guys. He didn't really see the Slytherins as people. He saw them as rivals and targets to harass, because they deserved it.

Before seveth year: He's a spolied brat who thinks he can get what he wants just because he said so. While he was a brillant friend he was a malichous enemy that saw to it that his enamies were miserable just to make himself feel better. However post seventh year, not sure why, I think he realised that no one can be pure evil and raislized that nobody deserved to be treated the way he treated Snape. In other words he grew up and took his head out of his butt.

I'm not so sure James really changed to be honest. As revealed by Sirius in OOTP, James still bullied Snape in seventh year. behind Lily's back, when she wasn't watching. So while he improved a bit his ways, and wasn't as arrogant as before he still did continue his bullying...should he have truly realized what an awful thing he was doing he would have apologized to all his tagrets and stopped acting that way. But he didn't.

Anyway, the way I see it: James was a loyal and good friend. He would do anything for them. However, anyone else that didn't fit into his social circle wasn't worth his consideration. He bullied people who hadn't done a thing to him. Just because they were in Slytherin or came from a dark family or liked Dark Arts. And let's face it: Dark Arts isn't = Death Eaters. Harry used the cruciatus curse twice, plus Sectumsempra, yet no one held it against him. Just because you have an academic interest into Dark Arts dose not mean you are evil. After all, it all depends on the way you use it. Using Sectumsempra on a person=awful. However, using Sectumsempra to cut off the inferi's hand who is currently trying to strangle you? A very good and useful thing to do. Point being, James saw everything in black and white. Not to mention, his reason for bullying Snape was: "Because he exists" and for the fun of it. That does not seem as if James is trying to do a noble thing, he's only amusing himself when bored.

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