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Cookiecat
Topic: Angeal/Genesis

I wonder what you think?

I like to read yaoi fiction (cute ones :), but I mainly have straight characters in my own writings.

But I realized that Angeal and Genesis appear somehow like a couple to me.

They are best friends, but I think there is more behind that, even if they both might not admit it to themselves.

In an up-coming chapter of my story, Destiny (a character made up by me, who used to be friends with Angeal and Genesis) asks Angeal after Genesis dissappearance: "You love him, don't you?"

That line is the end of the chapter, it can be interpreted according to one's liking. I just wanted to drop a little hint on my perspective.

But what do you think?

#1 Aug 25th 2008, 1:35pm
Makayla

I think they'd make a cute couple becuase they sort of balance each other out if you know what I mean?

#2 Sep 06th 2008, 3:00am
Cookiecat

I know exactly what you mean :) I see it just the same way.

Since my last post, I actually started a 'just a hint of yaoi' story about the two. A friend of mine especially asked me to write it ;)

It is a kind of spin-off (or sideline) of my main story, with a different focus. If it is finished, I might post it here as well, for those who want to read it.

In my point of view, their relationship definitely started with them being best friends. Angeal is the one who always looked/looks out for Genesis. As they grew up in the same village, they also decided to join SOLDIER together. In my story, Angeal turns out to be a natural when it comes to fighting, while Genesis has to struggle really hard. Only his fear of losing his best and only friend keeps him going. Luckily, Genesis develops a talent for summons and magic, which helps him to become SOLDIER first class in the end (these facts are also mentioned by Sephiroth in Part II, Chapter 1 of my current story 'Final Fiction').

The more I'm writing, the more I think they really make a cute couple :)

The only thing that slightly worried me in the beginning was the fact that I could not figure out if they are supposed to be related to each other. The reason why you could think so are not the Jenova cells (then almost all the cast of FF VII would be one happy family ;) ), but the fact that (unbeknown to them) they are both results of Hollander's experiments, and Hollander mentions in the game that they both carry genetic traits of his wife Gillian (who was the one infected with Jenova cells. Therefor the experiment was also called project G). The difference is that Angeal was born after a normal pregnancy (similar to Sephiroth), while Genesis is a kind of 'test tube baby' (in my story, this is the reason why he is less stable in different ways). Later, Angeal grew up with his real mother (not knowing who his father was), while Genesis was given to foster parents. If I remember correctly, Hollander mentions that Angeal is his son, but her never says the same about Genesis. Hollander is also quite sure that Genesis is a failed experiment, while Angeal turned out perfect.

If you consider that fact that they are portrait differently not only in character but also in appareance in the game, I would argue that they are not supposed to be related by blood.

But of course that is one of the many points that are not explained in detail in the game.

That's why I love the storyline so much :) (Enough room for my own interpretation ;) )

#3 Sep 07th 2008, 11:51am
Makayla

I'm glad someone understands my strange ideas XD

Oooh I might have to check it out! What's it called?

Yeah Genesis doesn't really strike you as the natural fighter, although he does have a certain grace about him.

Well Hollander could have had two wives named Gillian, and one cheated could have cheated on him! ^__~ Or according to one Fanfic writer:

Angeal put an arm around Genesis, hugging him, then glanced over at Vincent. “You’ve been asking us to wait all evening, and we have but frankly we’re getting rather tired, and it’s late. Do you have something to show us or not?”

Vincent was about to speak, when his phone rang. He pulled it out and looked at it. “I do,” he said quietly. He glanced at Angeal and Genesis. “Kymira is a bit of compulsive digger. I’m not free to discuss a Shadow Turk, but… well… when he gets a thought he follows it. He just sent me the information he was looking for.”

Before him on the coffee table was a large piece of paper, on which they had been rolling joints. Vincent carefully brushed aside the bits of plant matter and took out a pen. He looked towards Angeal and Genesis as Aeris handed the joint to Rufus.

“The first thing you have to understand,” said Vincent, “is the effect pop culture has on human beings. At the time when your parents would have been born, there was a play called ‘Sojourn’ being performed. It was a very powerful, very moving piece about a woman who commits suicide to save the life of a man she has never met. It had an enormous impact on many, many people. It is estimated that 43% of female infants born in the five years the play ran were named after the main character – Gillian.”

Angeal and Genesis looked at one another, puzzled, but they listened, Angeal’s arm around Genesis’ shoulders. Vincent took a skewer and stabbed a piece of fruit out of the vat of Yukkaflux. As he ate it, he wrote across the top of the piece of paper HOLLANDER. He then wrote in a row beneath that name GILLIAN H. GILLIAN K. GILLIAN F. He drew a line from Hollander’s name to Gillian H.

“These are Angeal’s parents,” said Vincent. He wrote Angeal’s name beneath Gillian H’s, then drew a line from her name to Angeal’s.

“So far so good,” said Angeal.

Vincent nodded. “But this is where it begins to get interesting. Gillian H died not long after Angeal was born, and Hollander married another woman, Gillian K. Then he met a third woman, Gillian F. Not being known for his self-restraint, he had an affair with her, and fathered a child. Gillian F, however, was a married woman who was under the impression her husband had been killed. Not long after getting pregnant, she received a letter informing her that her husband had been mistakenly declared dead in a mining accident. She went home to be with him, and had a child.”

Vincent drew a descending line from both Gillian F and Gillian K’s names, then drew a line from Gillian F to Hollander.

“So we have three Gillians, each connected to Hollander, each bearing a son. But Gillian K was pregnant when Hollander married her. The child she bore, the one Hollander declared a failed experiment, was not fathered by him. He sent that child to live with another family, unwilling to have a child under his roof who was both a failure and a bastard.”

Vincent wrote beneath Gillian K’s name GENESIS. The room was silent.

“Gillian F went home to Gongaga village, where she and her husband reconciled, and live to this day. But Gillian F, to distance herself from the affair, and the project, stopped using her first name and began calling herself Bonnie.”

Vincent crossed out Gillian F’s name and wrote BONNIE, then wrote beneath her name ZACK. He raised his red eyes to look at Genesis, Angeal and Zack as they sat together, all wearing equal expressions of shock.

“Angeal and Genesis are not half-brothers,” said Vincent. “Angeal and Zack are.”

Sephiroth looked at Zack. “Did you know that?”

“Yes!” said Zack. “Well I mean I knew most of it. They thought it best to tell me because you can’t keep secrets like that in a tiny village, but they never told me who my father actually was.”

Tifa stared at the two. “Well it makes more sense than the other way around, I mean look at them. You can’t tell me THAT hair is an accident.”

#4 Sep 09th 2008, 2:05am
Cookiecat

I am so glad someone understands my strange ideas, too :)

Wow, that is a great idea indeed. And my real first name (everybody calls me Stella, so I listen to that one only) is Stefanie, the most popular female name in my birthyear, a year before and after... So I know what it's like to be surrounded by namesakes ;)

I actually thought about the fact that Angeal and Zack look a lot alike before... :)

My own character (the female lead of my story) also has black hair and rather strange eyes (they are turquoise, but can change between blue and green, an 'emotion adaptive eye colour'). She is not related to any of the other characters, but has an impressive background story of her own... (don't want to put a spoiler here).

My story is going to be half a novel, starting some weeks before the events of the Crisis Core game and is supposed to end shortly after. It is called "Final Fiction"; and it's the only story available under my name at the moment (the other one is the German translation for some friends who complained their English was not good enough...).

The Genesis/Angeal one is going to be a sideline story. I almost finished it, but it is not up yet... (I sent you a separat message about it, you'll see why...)

If you read any of my writing, please feel free to comment. I love comments, but no one left anything for me so far... :'(

#5 Sep 09th 2008, 10:26am
Makayla

Its always nice to have friends XD

It all makes sense if you listen to the Magic Rat. I can send you a link to her site if you'd like?

Will do ^__^ I love comments too, they always make me smile.

I think the problem is people see FemaleOC and think MarySue. Or (like me) they just want to read about the characters themselves. OC is a tough market, and not one that I would fancy dipping into! It's hard enough with mainstream pairings let alone ones that you've made up yourself! I think you'll find you'll get more interest in your Angeal/Genesis story because they are characters people know and love. I would suggest not mentioning its a spin off in the summary, because that's something that turns people right off. Kind of like seeing OC in the summary. Or having people tell you they suck at summaries- that one always put me off. So may faux pas O.o

#6 Sep 09th 2008, 12:27pm
Cookiecat

I totally agree with you. It is so nice I got to know you :)

(and you are writing so fast it is hard for me to follow... but I keep trying ;)

Thank you so much for your advice. I really, really appreciate it. I am aware of the fact that introducing an OC is tough... but the story just kept chasing me after I watched the Crisis Core Cutscenes one night... I wrote it down just for me in the beginning, and than desided to give it a try and publish it... It is going better than I thought, I go 500 hits so far (in about four weeks).

But it is a good opportunity to check if I get more response to my other story ;) And it just developed as a kind of spin-off in my mind when I started thinking more and more about the characters - I will not call it a spin-off when I publish it.

Please send me the link... I'd love to read more :)

#7 Sep 09th 2008, 12:45pm
Makayla

It's nice to know you too ^__^

I'm sorry! I thought I was being really slow!!

Your welcome, I'm glad to help! I don't want you feeling that your stories crap becuase nobody's reviewed! Its just the word OC doesn't really arouse interest as much as it used to.

Good idea! XD Well you'll have one review for sure from me XD

Will do: http://exlibris.wozupdoc.net/finalfantasy/finalfantasyindex.html the first bit is about Cid/Vincent though! Angeal and Genesis don't turn up for a while... You could always skip down to the the second to last series becuase they factor quite largely there.

You know some of my stories (cough On his Hands and Knees cough) doesn't require any real knowlege of the characters if you know what I mean ;);) So if you fancy a little PWP one day....

#8 Sep 09th 2008, 1:18pm
Cookiecat

Glad you liked my review! So that's another opinion we share :) But you really, really deserved it!

I think I'm going to read all of the story, as I'm starting to get interested in Vincent/Cid, too ;)

And I will also check out your other stories...

Thanks again!

#9 Sep 09th 2008, 2:02pm
Makayla

Thank you XD

I'm glad. They really are a sweet couple- but you will not believe what she does to them later on! I nearly crapped rat-devouring cats XD

Aww thank you AGAIN! You've really got to stop doing such nice things otherwise I'm going to wear that phrase out!

Your welcome again XD

#10 Sep 12th 2008, 4:00am
Stellar-Kill

Angeal and Genesis?.. huh. Never thought about that before...

#11 Sep 27th, 3:36pm
Silverinumiko

I loved it. It was really good. You should make a short story from what you wrote.

#12 2 days ago, 10:34am
Cookiecat

Well, in case you meant me... This was over a year ago. Meanwhile, I did.

More than one story, actually :)

I didn't know it back than, but I had found my OTP.

Thanks for your encouragement anyway!

#13 2 days ago, 10:41am

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