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#1 Sep 01st 2008, 8:50am
Lady Tragic

So, if we're all playing academy students, will there be any Masters? Or will they be absent due to plot reasons/NPCs?

#2 Sep 01st 2008, 12:58pm
InunotaishoandTheMikoSisters

I certainly hope there will be masters. My character will be quite a handful, if accepted.

#3 Sep 01st 2008, 1:34pm
rimera

Inuno, I think I goofed. Is it okay, or do you need me to edit?

#4 Sep 01st 2008, 2:29pm
InunotaishoandTheMikoSisters

No, that works.

#5 Sep 01st 2008, 2:36pm
rimera

Be back later, guys... and I'll post a Sith Lord soon for the Sith Academy, to all who have Dark Side characters... (so far, that's just me...)

#6 Sep 01st 2008, 2:44pm
rimera

Kenria, sorry, but meebo was messing up too much. Every five seconds I had to sign back in. We'll talk later, when I'm at home, okay?

#7 Sep 01st 2008, 8:47pm
rimera

Hahaha!!! Food fight!!!

Come on, Lupo... we gotta let everyone join in on this one before it's over... you can't miss a food fight, people! Hahaha!

#8 Sep 02nd 2008, 2:56pm
Lady Tragic

Louis, I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship...

#9 Sep 02nd 2008, 6:12pm
InunotaishoandTheMikoSisters

Let's kick this pig!

#10 Sep 02nd 2008, 6:55pm
rimera

Inuno, that's a horrible thing to do to a pig! Besides... most of the pigs I've seen could probably maul you to death and then eat your remains... Much like we do to them, interestingly enough...

Lupo, is Iego following Yosa? Because if that is the case, if he found Imp and Ciri, then Chobu would see Imp.

#11 Sep 03rd 2008, 5:31am
rimera

Sigh... no one's here, and I gotta leave soon... hehe... guess I got used to having 20 characters! LOL!

I think I'll go see if we still have sausages, and make breakfast pigs in the blanket... maybe a bit of vanilla extract rubbed into the biscuits would help the flavor...

#12 Sep 03rd 2008, 9:33am
Sith Master2019

ATTENTION

Eh....

Okay. Here's the deal. I tried playing this RPG, and got pinged. Tried to answer a few times in 2 days, couldn't bring myself to do it. Therefore, to avoid any future complaining on my part, and kidnapping any characters from you guys because you're waiting on me to ping-pong (which I thoroughly despise), I'm leaving while I'm not much involved. See you all around.

#13 Sep 04th 2008, 1:56pm
Sith Master2019

There, deleted my character post in Sign Ups, and my post in Play Here. Bye, now.

Also going to delete myself as a mod. No need for me to be one if I'm not involved.

#14 Sep 04th 2008, 1:58pm . Edited Sep 04th 2008, 1:59pm
rimera

Inuno, I changed my last post.

#15 Sep 05th 2008, 2:31pm
Immortal Freedom

uhm...I've been waiting for Yosa to talk to Mark, who is in the hangar bay...

#16 Sep 05th 2008, 3:55pm
rimera

I don't think Lupo's online right now, Immortal... he's the one who plays Yosa

#17 Sep 05th 2008, 3:58pm
Immortal Freedom

I see...well can one of the students around accidentally go into the Temple Hangar Bay...and interact with Mark?

#18 Sep 05th 2008, 4:02pm . Edited Sep 05th 2008, 4:10pm
rimera

I'm working on it... Chobu and Imp are wandering around the Temple, but we're not there yet.

Can I ask you a favor, though? When they get to the hangar... can Neil please not know how to speak Chobu's language? I like him not being understood without aid for the time being...

#19 Sep 05th 2008, 4:05pm
Immortal Freedom

Its Mark and not Neil...and Mark won't know the language...but when you guys approve Neil, he'll know the language...good enough?

#20 Sep 05th 2008, 4:09pm
rimera

That's fine, that gives me some time.

Inuno- I need your help with something. How good is Imp with computers? Could he perhaps rig up a translator for Chobu?

#21 Sep 05th 2008, 4:39pm
InunotaishoandTheMikoSisters

Probably.

#22 Sep 05th 2008, 4:44pm
rimera

I would appreciate it if you could have him fix something up for Chobu. Meanwhile... do you mind having him lead them to the hangar? Poor Mark is all alone...

Though, they risk getting caught by Yosa...

#23 Sep 05th 2008, 5:05pm
Immortal Freedom

Mark can create a translator for Chobu. Neil can do so too when he is approved too.

#24 Sep 05th 2008, 5:14pm
rimera

Yeah, but I want Imp to do it.

#25 Sep 05th 2008, 5:15pm
rimera

Immortal... Forgive me. I was too hasty in what I said. I blame my female hormones. If you wish to make the translator, feel free... whichever you two decide. Sometimes I get carried away in my writing, and I forget this is a game. I would appreciate any help you are willing to give me.

#26 Sep 05th 2008, 8:27pm
rimera

..............(blinks)

Limited vocabulary, huh? Thought we had a deal, Immortal...

#27 Sep 05th 2008, 9:09pm
Comrade Claus

I ran this idea past Sithy yesterday & he thought it was great. A schedule for the Jedi & Sith schools. That way it would be easier to keep track of what's going on. As well as the time for Reveille & Lights Out, as well as breakfast, lunch, dinner as well as the various classes. Kind of like Harry Potter ^_^ Please vote on the idea.

#28 Sep 06th 2008, 2:20am
Immortal Freedom

Sorry about that...but he only has very limited knowledge...so that at least the two have something in common...they don't know much about each other's languages, but as shown in ET...even with limited knowledge of one another's language...both can be very good friends.

One more thing, since this is going to be like an Academy-thing on both sides...there should be missions conducted by both sides and at some point in the RP, the Jedi and Sith will clash once more to have some kind of action within the story. There isn't any Star Wars when there are no blue, green, purple, yellow, silver, and red lightsabers clashing with one another. In short, I'm proposing this RP should kinda have a plot going on like in the previous RPs pirates are getting more hostile or the Sith are rising up from the Shadows to restore the Sith Empire to its former glory.

#29 Sep 06th 2008, 3:08am . Edited Sep 06th 2008, 3:13am
rimera

Wonder if this has anything to do with why Sithy left? (glares darkly)

Not you, Immortal. Yes, I agree they need something in common, I like it. Your idea, though, must be run by Lupo.

Jonas...

sigh.... (gods grant me patience...)

We don't vote here. Lupo makes the decisions. You have only just submitted a character, and you want to change the rpg? ALREADY??!! (takes deep, calming breaths) The only reason I ask is, it's a new record... you didn't start trying to make changes to the LAST TWO RPG'S until your character had been submitted for at least a day or so.

Sithy is not a mod here. Don't try pulling anything with that. As for the rest.... (sprinkles hoodoo powder in Jonas's footsteps) I wash my hands of you. Let Lupo deal with you. May your path never cross mine. (throws the last of hoodoo powder over left shoulder into rushing river and walks home, shaking feet as she does)

#30 Sep 06th 2008, 5:09am
Immortal Freedom

Cap'n Jonas...I never have been on the former RPs controlled by rimera, but I am an active reader and spectator to the happenings in those ended RPs.

Your idea in my opinion won't work out. The Jedi Order isn't like Hogwarts. The Jedi and Sith alike have been passing knowledge to one another through a master-student relationship. Initiates are the only ones given certain schedules, but since there are no younglings here just like the Old Republic, therefore no schedules like that is possible.

Plus to think that the Sith will have, "Okay Future Sith Lords! It's How to Kill the Jedi Period!"

Its not logical for selfish, corrupt and power hungry dark siders having a Hogwarts like atmosphere. It would like having the Death Eaters having class with Voldemort, who is a master of deception.

That is why Darth Bane's Sith Code was, "There will always be two, a master and an apprentice. No more...no less."

BTW rimera, I'm waiting for either Chobu or Imp to reply to Mark's question.

#31 Sep 06th 2008, 5:18am . Edited Sep 06th 2008, 5:20am
Comrade Claus

Whoops! I guess Harry Potter was a bad analogy. I thought the Sith at least would have a Military Boot Camp or a Terrorist Training Camp style of Discipline. If the mistakes of the past are repeated... Well, look at the repeated disasters the Jedi & the Sith have experienced. If Anakin had a larger peer group instead of Obi-Wan alone, he would've been less likely to turn to the Dark Side. I wasn't trying to change anything, just a suggestion. At least an a time posting, maybe.

#32 Sep 06th 2008, 5:33am
Immortal Freedom

I don't want to say this, but it isn't possible.

Anakin Skywalker wouldn't have fallen to the Dark Side, if Palpatine wasn't manipulating him all along. Obi-Wan, Ferus Olin and other Jedi acknowledged and accepted Anakin as one of their own.

Hell even Commander Cody, Captain Rex and countless of clones admired and had good relations with the 'Chosen One' during countless of battles during the Clone War.

Anakin wouldn't have fallen if he just listened to the Force and not to his feelings.

The Sith have always fallen apart due to the fact that their teachings don't always work out as a group. The students kill their masters in order to gain their titles as Sith Lords. They always have their own personal agendas that clash with one another.

The Sith have tried countless of times to be an Empire or gathered in Korriban for countless of times, but they always argued and killed off one another. The main reason why Darth Bane proposed a 'Sith Lord-Sith Apprentice' Sith Code to preserve the Sith.

#33 Sep 06th 2008, 5:39am
rimera

Immortal... I believe you are waiting for Imp. He understands the question, and has been very quiet lately....

#34 Sep 06th 2008, 5:39am
Immortal Freedom

ahhh...okie okie...I'm also waiting for Yosa. By the way, when's Lupo going to go OL?

#35 Sep 06th 2008, 5:43am . Edited Sep 06th 2008, 5:43am
rimera

I hate to interject...

so I won't.

But Bane's Rule of Two was more like a Law of Two, if I understand it. A law that enforces itself, with no help needed from any institution, for it is a natural law. Kinda like the Law of Gravity and the Law of Three. Basically, any time you have a group of Sith together, they will whittle themselves down to a Master and an Apprentice. But this is a good thing. Because the more corpses they have to make to build a wall high enough to get to the top, the stronger they will be when they get there. Just like with my fish, you start out with hundreds, and if any survive, they will indeed be powerful.

#36 Sep 06th 2008, 5:44am
rimera

I don't know, Immortal. Sometime today, I'm sure. You had just missed him yesterday.

#37 Sep 06th 2008, 5:45am
Immortal Freedom

This is a good thing and it has always came to two Sith as Darth Bane said so.

But the reason why there will always be two is that, all the knowledge...the killings and all the Sith thingies are already passed onto the surviving master and apprentice after the fall of the Sith thousands of years before The Phantom Menace.

So therefore, the power of the master and apprentice will be powerful alone. Like that of Palpatine and Dooku. And Palpatine and Vader.

They only had 'Dark Jedi' lackeys or minor apprentices, but this doesn't coincide with what Jonas wanted to happen as kind of a Hogwarts or a boot camp.

They only had institutions of learning and several sects or cults...but being one organization...is a mistake that the Sith will never repeat as they learned from their mistakes.

#38 Sep 06th 2008, 5:52am . Edited Sep 06th 2008, 5:53am
rimera

sry, g2g... more to say later, though

#39 Sep 06th 2008, 5:55am
Immortal Freedom

sure...take care!

#40 Sep 06th 2008, 5:58am
Sith Master2019

They only had 'Dark Jedi' lackeys or minor apprentices, but this doesn't coincide with what Jonas wanted to happen as kind of a Hogwarts or a boot camp.

They only had institutions of learning and several sects or cults...but being one organization...is a mistake that the Sith will never repeat as they learned from their mistakes.

And yet... in this RPG there is an institution called the Sith Academy....

Give up on the Darth Bane stuff already, this is 1000 ABY or something, right?

Well, my friends, I pulled a Jester and went to wookieepedia. A new Sith Order was established by Darth Kryat in 130 ABY called the Rule of One. In that order, one Sith Lord would command MANY Sith Lords who were trained to be blindly obedient to him, even giving up their own lives. Of course, if Kyrat was killed, all the Sith would turn and kill one another as there was no heir. I'm sure this happened, but I don't know because I don't feel like reading in to it.

What I'm saying is, this is 1000 ABY. It is likely that, after another mellennia, the Rule of Two does not widely apply. That is all. I despise RPGs, good bye.

#41 Sep 06th 2008, 7:04am
Immortal Freedom

As you said so Sith Master...if Krayt was killed then they would kill one another. So it means that a steady hand is needed to keep them in order, but not making a boot camp of sorts that everybody will be friends or not hostile to one another.

This Sith Academy here can be like a remaining sect of the remainders of the Sith since many years have changed after Krayt's reign as a Sith Lord and his Rule of One. Coruscant was captured in his time, but in this timeline the Jedi are occupying Coruscant once more.

Besides if all the Sith gather and amass in power once more, they will just kill each other again like before just like in the saying: a history forgotten is a history repeated.

So if the modern Sith have ignored the advice/rules of the dead Sith Lords, then history is bound to repeat itself.

Besides, true Sith Lords like Darth Bane and Darth Andeddu considered Krayt's Sith Order as heretical and can be compared to a Sith Cult.

#42 Sep 06th 2008, 7:12am . Edited Sep 06th 2008, 7:25am
re del lupo

Ok I have arrived, Immortal I'll get on with Yosa in a minute

The way I was hoping for this to work is quite simple. If you have played KOTOR I you'll know that there were only two Sith Lords, Revan and Malak. But they had Dark Jedi and Sith Masters, Knights, and apprentices. This is the style I'm going for, with Two Sith in charge and a horde of underlings.

Two: Everyone here is still an initiate, not an apprentice yet. There will come a time in the RPG where each character can make up a sub-character to be their master. Not a regular character mind you, just a person they came up with randomly to go with them on missions. However I am hesitant to do so, simply because one rpg day is one week.

Going from one planet to another is one rpg day. Do you see the problems with that here?

It is simply too time consuming, if there were missions given they will be given sparsely. This rpg is mostly about sitting back relaxing and rping with friends.

#43 Sep 06th 2008, 8:38am
rimera

Inuno... you and I may need to edit. Yosa forgot to notice the two initiates playing hookey in the hangar...

#44 Sep 06th 2008, 4:30pm
re del lupo

Immortal you're godmodeling Mark just a bit.

Now let me explain.

I know in the Star Wars games like KOTOR, Jedi Academy, Jedi, Knight, and others you can learn to use the force like a master in a short time span.

Like Jedi Academy for example, the main character Jaden Korr, becomes a Jedi Knight and defeats a Sith Lord in under a year.

That doesn't work here, to put it simply Mark is too advanced for his age, no matter his bio. It has taken most Jedi Two decades to get to the level your rping Mark at.

The only exception to this rule ever have been Anakin and Luke, none of our characters are even half as good as they are.

Now in your rp or the previous rp your character wouldn't be godmodeled but here he is.

Where in a setting assuming that most of these students haven't had more than 5 years of experience with the force.

You need to tone Mark down, a lot.

List of things no student should be able to do currently.

1. Attuning and becoming one with the living force is a big no-no

2. Using force speed to that degree at this time is also a no-no

3. fighting holographic Jedi Knights or anyone on that level is not possible.

Now you are allowed to have your characters do better in one area than all the others, thats their specialty. But not more than that.

The way I see it, all of the students currently are at this level. save for Chobu as he is new.

(I am basing this on Jedi Academy standards)

Force Push 1 out of three

Force Sense 1 our of three

Force Pull 1 out of three

Force Speed 0 out of three

Lightsaber skill (melee weapons skill) 1 out of five. Or if you wish for your character to excel in this area a two out of five

force heal 0 out of three

force absorb 0 out of three

force protect 0 out of three

force anything 0 out of three.

You see this is a very basic thing everyone here is learning. But thats not to say your character can't excel in one area, but only one.

I hope this clears things up.

#45 Sep 07th 2008, 2:11pm
Sith Master2019

Immortal:

1) In my expert opinion, I agree with the mod re del lupo. Your character is a bit god modeled, see his post....

2) About the Rule of Two. I just interjected that because you and rimera were discussing it so seriously. I found it amusing, in a ridiculous sort of way, so I decided to ruin it.... Hahahahahaha!

#46 Sep 07th 2008, 2:27pm
Immortal Freedom

Well to sort things first, Mark just listened to the Force and simply meditated. Its not as if he can see into the future...he just felt ripples of it as in the RP.

He used a certain degree of force speed, but I didn't say he can catch up...so he might inly be faster twice or thrice than normal.

He only fought a holographic Jedi Knight, but training programs have their own levels and what Mark trained in was a basic one. Just the basic defending stuff form the opponent's weapon. Just like in a training activity where Jaden Korr accidentally fought a drone with a lightsaber(and slices and dices the droid into spare parts) when Rosh Penin tried to slow him down at the Jedi Academy.

Besides, in Mark's bio he was under a spirit of a Jedi Guardian from the Valley of the Jedi...so he can be a bit advanced than other students.

He isn't god modeled, just an advanced student thats all...someone who can be an example for others to follow. He can act as a big brother of sorts.

But if you want me not to use Mark to that certain degree like he's a rookie with no knowledge about the force, then that would be in contrast with his bio. He's a bit experienced in using the force, but not that as masterful as a newly knighted Jedi would be.

I understand your concerns and such, but he isn't exactly the definition a god modeled character that can't be beaten. An expert with a stone can beat a sword wielding rookie...the one wielding the stone needs more skill thats all. So Chobu can beat Mark if he's really good in using a spear.

I hope you understand...

#47 Sep 08th 2008, 1:47am . Edited Sep 08th 2008, 2:00am
re del lupo

Yea thanks, it sounded weird how you were rping him. so I was a little bit worried.

#48 Sep 08th 2008, 4:11am
Immortal Freedom

I see...well the job of being as strong or better than a normal Jedi Knight falls to Neil, who hasn't been approved yet by the way...two days have passed and I'm still waiting for your decision.

But Mark will just play the role of a more advanced student than the others, though he still needs to learn alot more from Yosa or Neil, if you will approve him.

#49 Sep 08th 2008, 4:41am
Comrade Claus

So where would a good opening for Byakuko be? Do I set one up or would one of your characters be like chatting w/ a frined in a corridor & she walks by? Remember, she was probably the only one who didn't throw food, so that would be conspicuous in their minds. Shes kind of a book worm so she'll be carrying a ton of datacards along w/ her instrument. so she is kind of burdened. Maybe the Hapan guy might offer to help her.

Since I don't want to spoil the flow of the plot, which is perfect so far. I'll probably be offline for the next 12 hours.

#50 Sep 08th 2008, 5:15am


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