As much as we tried to keep out of trouble with other ff.net users, I’m afraid there still will be people pissed at us for a reason or not.

Now, don’t get me wrong – this is not the place to bring your flaming issues in. Nor your personal drama.

This thread is for people, new or not new, to ask questions or complain about something in The Fireplace Alliance. However, some rules:

 No spam. All spam will be deleted.

 Not only the mods/admin can answer to posts here. If you want to comment about something, feel free.

 Please, don’t insult someone’s religion/political views/sexuality/personal preferences.

 All trolls will be blocked and posts deleted.

If you think that your issue is more personal and/or you would like to keep it just between you and the forum admin/mods please PM someone you trust more/feel they’ll help you the best with your problem.

As much as we tried to keep out of trouble with other ff.net users, I’m afraid there still will be people pissed at us for a reason or not.

Dude, people will just have to deal with it. I mean not everybody is going to be satisfied with the way things are run around here. That's why there is something called compromise. And if they don't like, that's too bad. This place is based on the majority.

Are Youtube links allowed in the Links and Lyrics thread?

Are Youtube links allowed in the Links and Lyrics thread?

Yes.

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Im suprised to see you people Still support Him................... Honestly it seems my complaints have finally reached FanFicion.net's staff, Something F/R and his Minions said wouldnt happen........

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This is exactly why I made that "I HATE YOU!" thread: so flamaters could still have their "special place" to rant, without us giving them the ammo they need to justify calling us cowards by deleting the posts.

Debatra, he's a troll. -_-;

Maybe, but that's not the point.

Yes, it is the point Debatra! We do not get flamaters in here because practically no one here flames. The point here is that Arbotos is a troll, and as such his thread was deleted. We do not need an I Hate You thread, because the only idiots who'll use it will be trolls. I don't care if trolls call us cowards for deleting their posts and/or threads.

And would you kindly stop posting his goddamn message through the forum? I deleted that thread for a reason. Because he's a troll.

I am deleting your posts with his message that aren't in this thread and the Chat thread because they are feeding the troll, and do not need to be in every thread that you can find where it might be acceptable to post it.

Back on topic here, is swearing allowed?

Back on topic here, is swearing allowed?

Yes, but as long as it's not breaking the site rules:

All discussions including language and content must be suitable for teens.

and forum rules.

Back on topic here, is swearing allowed?

Yes, you're allowed to say "Fuck you." ;)

All in all, what is the general composition of posts here? Sorry if I sound like some teacher or something, I just wanna know if there's something I could actually fit in to.

All in all, what is the general composition of posts here? Sorry if I sound like some teacher or something, I just wanna know if there's something I could actually fit in to.

There's a lot of things here so I'm pretty sure you'll find something you'll like. If you want to get yourself acquainted with the other members of the forum, there's the chat thread for ya; if you find some weird shit on this site and you have to share it with everyone else, there's the WoW (Worst of [the] Worst) threads for you to enjoy (although we ask if you do submit anything, please leave out the links, author and title, if it's not going into the WoW: Titles thread) or we do have other threads for you to explore and comment, like the Favorite Pairings thread, the Music thread, the Dream thread, etc.

Hopefully that helped a little!

(Welcome to the forum, by the way.)

Thanks :) Much obliged.....

Hi I'm new to FF.net, barly been here 2 weeks, what exactly is the Firplace Alliance?

Uncertain

Well... first off, The Fireplace Alliance is a place where the regulars from the original Fireplace, run by Flame Rising, came after the closing of our beloved forum. But we're happy to have anyone around. Secondly, it's a place where we appreciate good grammar and spelling, and make fun of people who write like shit. And it's also a place to just have fun and make friends.

...I hope that answered your question.

Uncertain, you should probably check out the story part of the site before you start looking around the forums. You'll actually understand what makes us tick here better.

Unfortunately I'm not allowed to read the stories (parents aren't any fun when it comes to reading materials), I came to put up my own and hopefully get some tips about how to improve my writing, but I am allowed to read forums and maybe reviews. Is it possible to read the reviews on a story without leaving a review myself?

Uncertain

Yeah, just go to the review link on a story's summary, it's right after the author's name.

Did the Fireplace just dissappear? What happened to FlameRising? Was there any real warning? Why did it happen?

Did the Fireplace just dissappear? What happened to FlameRising? Was there any real warning? Why did it happen?

Flame Rising deleted the Fireplace a while back. He's still around I guess, just not as much as before. I can't answer for F/R about why it happened, you'll have to go ask him yourself through PM or something.

Also, Del, have you introduced yourself at the Introduction Thread? Please do, before posting ;P.

I did, about a month ago. I've just been lurking around occasionally

Did the Fireplace just dissappear? What happened to FlameRising? Was there any real warning? Why did it happen?

Why do you care?

I was wondering almost the same things, mostly I'm just curious, I haven't been on ff.net in over a year. I used to lurk around the Fireplace, but more so on The Furnance, (way back in the early days) is that forum still up?

mostly I'm just curious

Alright then. Here's the tale of Flame Rising. Be prepared. It's mighty epic.

He made a forum, laughed at people, got tired of trolls, was busy with life, deleted his forums, and that was that. The end.

I think I just died....

I came back to read some more WoW's and laugh my ass off, to find the Fireplace, GONE! I didn't post much but I read alot. F/R, Why can't you just leave the forum alone and still go on with your life? Still, it's his life, and his forum. Goodbye "The Fireplace". R.I.P. *sob*

*snort* Dramatic much?

Are you forgetting how you felt when you found it gone/locked up Dimi?

...Mind you, I'm sort of inclined to agree...

Are you forgetting how you felt when you found it gone/locked up Dimi?

That made me question. In all actuality, what was worse...being there when FR-oppa began shutting everything down, or finding it shut down?

That made me question. In all actuality, what was worse...being there when FR-oppa began shutting everything down, or finding it shut down?

Finding it shut down (that's what happened to me). 'Cause even if I wasn't a big poster, I wanted to say goodbye to everyone and couldn't. I only found out about the FPA because I was looking through the last posts.

...I would add a question or complaint to keep it on topic, but I can't think of one. Sorry.

About the Best Out There thread, is it okay to recommend stuff that isn't fan fic, like original online fiction, or stuff that isn't on this site or fictionpress?

Best Out There is only for fanfiction, but we have a thread for original stuff, too. Wandering the Shelves and Still Can't Find Anything to Read : Book Recommendations

Okay, thanks.

Sorry if this is an obvious question, but is links to other sites allowed? Like to sites called "Not Always Right" ( a collection of stupid customer quotes)?

Are you forgetting how you felt when you found it gone/locked up Dimi?

Oh come on, I did not go as far as to saying "R.I.P." That was like soooo dramatic and kinda dorky. XD

...Mind you, I'm sort of inclined to agree...

*winks* You ought not have disagreed in the first place, love. ;)

*sniff* And we haven't talked in days. Where on earth are you?

Sorry if this is an obvious question, but is links to other sites allowed? Like to sites called "Not Always Right" ( a collection of stupid customer quotes)?

Yep.

Oh come on, I did not go as far as to saying "R.I.P." That was like soooo dramatic and kinda dorky. XD

I didn't say you did go that far. :P XD

*winks* You ought not have disagreed in the first place, love. ;)

I'm not allowed to have my own opinion anymore? :O

I think people will feel a little edgy to know that you control this mod's every thought and action... ;)

*sniff* And we haven't talked in days. Where on earth are you?

My parents, sister and I went to stay with my grandmother on my Dad's side for Christmas, cos we were here in Melbourne with Mum's family last year. We were there for about five days, and I had no internet access.

EDIT: And we should probably shouldn't chat here. ^_^;

I think people will feel a little edgy to know that you control this mod's every thought and action... ;)

Who, moi? Why, no such thing is happening! More lies, Sao-love? ;p

And yeah...sorry for spamming...not really but eh...XP

Please, stop spamming. All future off-topic posts will be deleted.

Thank you.

Not exactly sure if this is the right topic but t his seems to be a topic to complain about the Fireplace Alliance. This complaint isn't exactly about flames but it touches on it, this complaint is more about the actions of this forum in relation to the rules of this site.

I've heard that some of you share links to fics in anyway. I'm curious, do the people whom the links were shared all go and flame the author afterwards? And by flame I mean personal insults. If they do that's harassment and a clear violation of the TOS.

Another point is, if people are following "fanbrats" around to other sites, as I've heard a user was doing here, isn't that stalking? Or at the very least harassment?

Harassment and stalking are both a clear violation of the ToS and this forum is encouraging that behavior?

Oh and one more thing, this forum encourages flaming or atleast condemn it(haha). It seems flaming is against the guidelines as well. which we agree to. Observe he highlighted part of a portion from the Guidelines:

Here is a list of conducts that should always be observed:

3. Everyone here is an aspiring writer. Respect your fellow members and lend a helping a hand when they need it. Like many things, the path to becoming a better writer is often a two way street 4. Use proper textual formatting. For example: using only capital letters in the story title, summary, or content is not only incorrect but also a disregard for the language itself.

Hello, Crushing Fog, thank you for the post.

I've heard that some of you share links to fics in anyway. I'm curious, do the people whom the links were shared all go and flame the author afterwards? And by flame I mean personal insults. If they do that's harassment and a clear violation of the TOS.

Had you read here first before posting, you would have found this:

Things that will get you banned from here [most likely permanently]:

 Spreading links of stories showcased in the WoW threads via PM’s/linking/e-mail etc. etc.

And this part kinda bothered me, so I'll take it upon myself to address it:

Oh and one more thing, this forum encourages flaming

Again, had you bothered to read the rules, you would have stumbled across this as well:

This forum was created for people to hang out and have fun. This forum is a FP’s legacy of a sort

There are many members here, myself included, who don't flame/don't advocate flaming (although this isn't to say we aren't guilty of doing this in the past) and can still peaceably get along with those who do. We are not "an army of flamers" and will never be and this is something we cannot stress this enough. However, we do allow for posting on the WoW (Worst of [the] Worst) threads, so long as the excerpts shown are completely anonymous-- no links, no titles, no authors, zilch. We have had a slight problem with in the past; however, I do believe the guilty party has learned from their error and as such, a similar incident will not be repeated in the future.

Hopefully this answered your question. If you'd like to stick around, please do and make sure to drop a post in the Introductions thread. C:

Hello, Crushing Fog, thank you for the post.

No thank you.

Had you read here first before posting, you would have found this:

Things that will get you banned from here [most likely permanently]:

 Spreading links of stories showcased in the WoW threads via PM’s/linking/e-mail etc. etc

No I'm perfectly aware of that. I do not believe people are sharing links on this forum but I believe people of this forum are sharing links, which leads to gang flaming, which can be seen as harassment. Though I don't know how many incidents of gang flaming there is.

Again, had you bothered to read the rules, you would have stumbled across this as well:

This forum was created for people to hang out and have fun. This forum is a FP’s legacy of a sort

There are many members here, myself included, who don't flame/don't advocate flaming (although this isn't to say we aren't guilty) and can still peacably get along with those who do. We are not "an army of flamers" and will never be and this is something we cannot stress this enough. However, we do allow for posting on the WoW (Worst of [the] Worst) threads, so long as the excerpts shown are completely anonymous-- no links, no titles, no authors, zilch. We have had a slight problem with in the past; however, I do believe the guilty party has learned from their error and as such, a similar incident will not be repeated in the future.

I've have read that part, I was just not aware that many of you do not dflaming, since this forum was built in memory of a forum of a flamer. The WoW and sporking topics sort of mislead me as well but I don't think you're an army of flamers. Though, it's nice you take such measures to prevent authors from being named.

Hopefully this answered your question. If you'd like to stick around, please do and make sure to drop a post in the Introductions thread. C:

Indeed it has. Thanks but I don't plan to stick around, unless you count this post as sticking around. :D

Thanks but I don't plan to stick around

Then why worry about the rules and the happenings of this forum, hmm? How does it concern you?

Seems to me that you stuck around long enough to do a good thorough lurking to follow what has been going around here.

Then why worry about the rules and the happenings of this forum, hmm? How does it concern you?

Because the rules and the happenings of the forum(some of it) concern this site. I'm just someone who disagrees with what goes on, so I spoke up.

Seems to me that you stuck around long enough to do a good thorough lurking to follow what has been going around here.

Nah, I don't lurk around here. What goes on here is is clearly written in the rules. But I've seen the threads of this forum. I've barely looked in them though. I've only heard of what goes on here from other forums, but very few of them talked of this and very minimally.

I've have read that part, I was just not aware that many of you do not dflaming, since this forum was built in memory of a forum of a flamer.

Flame Rising's Fireplace was not just a place of flamers and a place to advocate flaming. It was a place where a lot of us built very strong frienships, and many of us were devastated to lose the place because of all it had meant to us. This place is, as Crims said, a legacy of the FP - it's a place for us old Fireplacians to have the same fun as we did before, and still hang out with our good friends. And a place for new people to come in and get to know some new people. This forum is not exclusive to old Fireplacians. We're actually a very friendly bunch, you know. :)

Only the minority on this forum flame. Many have flamed in the past, or do so sparingly, but what they choose to do off the forum is their choice, as long as they do not involve other members, therefore implicating this forum. We do not encourage gang flaming. In fact, doing so will get you banned from here, as I believe was mentioned to you before.

The WoW and sporking topics sort of mislead me as well but I don't think you're an army of flamers. Though, it's nice you take such measures to prevent authors from being named.

F/R had problems with linking on the old FP, and the rule just makes more sense if you want to take precautions against the "army of flamers" idea that a lot of people have about us.

WoW and sporking is fun for us. We like to mock people who write like complete shit. We usually don't mock the mediocre, only the terribly, terribly bad. Looking in these threads would have informed you of the fact.

I'm glad you took the time to come here and hear what we had to say about these things. :) If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask.

Flame Rising's Fireplace was not just a place of flamers and a place to advocate flaming. It was a place where a lot of us built very strong frienships, and many of us were devastated to lose the place because of all it had meant to us. This place is, as Crims said, a legacy of the FP - it's a place for us old Fireplacians to have the same fun as we did before, and still hang out with our good friends. And a place for new people to come in and get to know some new people. This forum is not exclusive to old Fireplacians. We're actually a very friendly bunch, you know. :)

I see, though I had checked out his old forum as well and I don't agree with some stuff he did, but that's a different story. I have not meant to call this a forum of flamers, I see this forum means a lot to you, and I can tell you're a friend bunch for sure, now. :)

Only the minority on this forum flame. Many have flamed in the past, or do so sparingly, but what they choose to do off the forum is their choice, as long as they do not involve other members, therefore implicating this forum. We do not encourage gang flaming. In fact, doing so will get you banned from here, as I believe was mentioned to you before.

Well if they flame off this forum tehen it's a different story. Pardon me, I had thought flaming was part of this forum. It's good you don't encourage gang flaming, that says a lot about this forum. And by 'that says a lot about this forum' I mean it shows this forum is good.

F/R had problems with linking on the old FP, and the rule just makes more sense if you want to take precautions against the "army of flamers" idea that a lot of people have about us.

I see F/R tried to discourage it, but I heard many people overkilled his targets anyways, though I heard they did that in the past. Looks like that day has passed anyways.

WoW and sporking is fun for us. We like to mock people who write like complete shit. We usually don't mock the mediocre, only the terribly, terribly bad. Looking in these threads would have informed you of the fact.

Indeed, I can see, based on how this forum sort of mirrrors F/R's forum. It's good you don't mock the mediocre, at least, everyone starts out somewhere. My problem is with flaming and what I've recently discovered in the guidelines. But then again we agree to the guidelines before we post stories so it seems like anyone who flames is violating the guidelines if they have stories.

I'm glad you took the time to come here and hear what we had to say about these things. :) If you have any further questions, please feel free to ask.

I'm also glad that you were considerate and very helpful. It helps when you understand what is going on. Thank you for your help. :)

I see, though I had checked out his old forum as well and I don't agree with some stuff he did, but that's a different story.

Yeah. A lot of us started out disagreeing with him too. *coughs* Myself being one of them.

I have not meant to call this a forum of flamers, I see this forum means a lot to you, and I can tell you're a friend bunch for sure, now. :)

^_^ Well, I'm glad we cleared that up. :)

Well if they flame off this forum tehen it's a different story. Pardon me, I had thought flaming was part of this forum.

The name can be a little misleading, I admit... O.o

It's good you don't encourage gang flaming, that says a lot about this forum. And by 'that says a lot about this forum' I mean it shows this forum is good.

-_- I find gang flaming abhorrent and disgraceful. I was very disappointed with the regs here when it occurred. *sigh*

My problem is with flaming and what I've recently discovered in the guidelines. But then again we agree to the guidelines before we post stories so it seems like anyone who flames is violating the guidelines if they have stories.

I think I'll just have to say we'll have to agree to disagree here a little. ^_-

I'm also glad that you were considerate and very helpful. It helps when you understand what is going on. Thank you for your help. :)

It's my pleasure. ^_^

*yawn* Wow, it looks like this kid actually does plan to stick around judging from the continued flow of posts.

Because the rules and the happenings of the forum(some of it) concern this site.

Not really. An extremely small percentage of the population of FFN as affliliated with the FPA some way or another. So it doesn't concern the rest of the folks residing on this site.

I'm just someone who disagrees with what goes on, so I spoke up.

You chose a pretty random fashion to do so. You haven't up until this point have ever posted here before and now you suddenly decide to voice your opinions. Why didn't you do it when the old FP was up and running and you were lurking then?

I've only heard of what goes on here from other forums, but very few of them talked of this and very minimally.

Again, why does it concern you so much? For someone who declares to not frequent here, you're awfully concerned about the going ons around here.

Again, why does it concern you so much? For someone who declares to not frequent here, you're awfully concerned about the going ons around here.

(He or she is stalking you, Dimi. Bwah. XD)

or atleast condemn it(haha)

Since when did we condemn flaming, especially as there are still some here who do it? I think the word you're looking for is condone. -_-

I'm sorry, I couldn't help pointing that out as it totally means the opposite.

Yeah. A lot of us started out disagreeing with him too. *coughs* Myself being one of them.

Lol, really? I wouldn't have never guessed that. xD Even tight groups have differing opinions, right? :)

^_^ Well, I'm glad we cleared that up. :)

Me too. ^_^

The name can be a little misleading, I admit... O.o

Lol, it does seem synonymous with flame but it can also have the connotation of warmth and home.

-_- I find gang flaming abhorrent and disgraceful. I was very disappointed with the regs here when it occurred. *sigh*

That's a noble opinion. ^_^

I think I'll just have to say we'll have to agree to disagree here a little. ^_-

Indeed we do ^.-

It's my pleasure. ^_^

Mine as well ^_^

*yawn* Wow, it looks like this kid actually does plan to stick around judging from the continued flow of posts.

Sure I plan to stick around to respond to people who have responded so kindly. It would be rude of me to do otherwise. ^_~

Not really. An extremely small percentage of the population of FFN as affliliated with the FPA some way or another. So it doesn't concern the rest of the folks residing on this site.

Forgive me but I don't mean the people posting here, I meant the actions of some people here such as flaming. Even though a small percentage of flamers are on this forum, this forum is sort of a good hang out for them. Although I realize that many people here post to hang out with their friends or just hang out.

You chose a pretty random fashion to do so. You haven't up until this point have ever posted here before and now you suddenly decide to voice your opinions. Why didn't you do it when the old FP was up and running and you were lurking then?

Why yes, I did. Imagine that posting in a complaint topic, how silly of me! Yes I haven't posted because I'm a lurker, it's what we do. I decided to post because I've heard a lot of activity from flamers, well really just that incident, and as someone who strictly oppose flames I decided I had to share what I found in the guidelines.

I couldn't post in the old FP, as they didn't have a 'complaint' topic, the only topic I've seen for complaining was the 'complain here flameeaters and get ripped apart by' topic. It didn't seem very appealing to me.. Btw, what's up with the name 'flameater'? Have we been spotted following some dark anti flame lord?

Again, why does it concern you so much? For someone who declares to not frequent here, you're awfully concerned about the going ons around here.

Like I said before I've noticed a lot of flamer activity and some of it stemming from here. As an anti flamer or self proclaimed one I couldn't resist showing a rule I found in the guidelines that loosely prohibits flaming. I was mostly curious to hear some of the people here's take on it. Namely the flamers, at whom the first post was directed at. And rest assured I'm not a visitor here, I barely looked at this forum in the past. My interest is the flamers.

(He or She is stalking you Dimi. Bwah. XD)

Nah, I only stalk stalker who are my age range and are not predators in anyway shape or form. Because I would be curious why they're stalking me.

Since when did we condemn flaming, especially as there are still some here who do it? I think the word you're looking for is condone.

I don't remember exactly what I said, but I think I said something about people not condemning flaming here. I also put a 'hehe' in parenthesis.

I'm sorry, I couldn't help pointing that out as it totally means the opposite.

I actually did mean to use the word condemn but thanks anyways. ^^ Odd how condemn and condone sound so similar but are the opposite, isn't it?

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