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OCkicksASSTopic: Turbo The Turbo team was my favorite team only because it was the last to work along side Zordon and Justin was my favorite because i was his age at the time the series began so it was like i could have been him |
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Destiny45That's fun 'cause there was a long thread on rangerboard a few weeks ago talking about how so many people didn't like Turbo, and on of the main reasons being Justin. I personally put Turbo toward the bottom of the pile of PR seasons. I didn't like how the series was cut in half between the two casts, and in the first half of the season, the producers had no where left to go with all the old characters. Plus, I found Justin replacing Rocky to be a little bizarre. |
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Kayla TsukinoI don't think I've seen terbo through the end, but I kinda liked it when they stayed consistant on the time period, and some of the main charactors/powers etc. When it started speeding off with completely different casts for each season, thats where I got a little lost. I liked the slow progression of filtering old rangers with new then redefining everyone all at once. Though noww that I look back on it I wish I could have seen it all the way through season to season, but I wasn't that lucky.| #3 Jan 01st 2006, 11:57am | |
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GhostwriterI liked Turbo. Personally, I thought Justin was cool. I agree that the cast change was annoying, but outta all of the replacements, I liked Carlos the best. I don't know, he was cute. Catch ya on the flip side. |
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Mistress of PhoenixTurbo was good except the fact that Tommy was there, if he wasn't in Turbo Ranger it would have been better. |
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Psyduck RangerWhats wrong with Tommy? He's my favorite ranger. |
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Purple StrobeTommy's my fav. too. If he wasn't there, it would all just seem so... WRONG! I mean, it's kinda losing someone that you know so well, you know? |
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JuseaPetersonTurbo was pretty good and they don't give TJ, Cassie, Carlos, Ashley and Justin enough credit. TJ was an amazing leader. Besides if it weren't for him and Cassie Tommy would be dead. I loved the episodes Chase Into Space. The first time that the rangers were really alone (yeah different times when Zordon would disappear, but Dimitria left them to help out Zordon-I see it as being different). Than after the attack and yes, defeat, but I'd like to see any group of rangers survive being attacked at full force in their home base and being blown up.Than their decision to go after and help rescue Zordon. Leaving their home planet, not knowing where they're going or what's going to happen to them, no time to actually say good bye to their families, or anything-but they leave. Justin staying there was brave too, I mean he was working on something different, his family, which was what he needed to do than anyways. Turbo isn't my favorite season, but it is up there, I just wish people wouldn't cast aside TJ, Cassie, Carlos, Ashley and Justin so easily. |
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GracefulCraneTurbo isn't my favorite season too. But i liked the Turbo Megazord.I prefer Zeo than Turbo. But MMPR and PRDT are my fav. PR seasons all the time | #9 Jun 11th 2007, 11:13pm | |
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JuseaPetersonSee sometimes I like Turbo better than Zeo, other times I like Zeo better than Turbo, it just depends. My favorite seasons, well: NS, Space, SPD, OO, TF. I like quite a bit, for different reasons. They all have their plusses and minuses.| #10 Jun 12th 2007, 8:18am | |
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GracefulCraneI like PRiS too...Andros, T.J and Ashley were the main reason i watched that show :) | #11 Jun 12th 2007, 7:56pm | |
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JuseaPetersonYeah?I love Space, it was the first time that I loved all the rangers, and the villians. Andros and Ashley, I loved them. TJ, was awesome as well. I also loved Cassie, Carlos and Zhane. | #12 Jun 13th 2007, 7:59am | |
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Black into BlueHmm. Turbo wasn't exactly my favorite.They split the Rangers into new people mid-season, which made me kind of angry. Justin took Rocky's place, though I did like Justin. He gave me hope that I could one day become a power Ranger, no matter my age. I was like five back then, so sue me. They did have a cool zord, I must admit that, and I'm glad they did the movie before the switch-off, but the show wasn't the same after they left. That's when I stopped religiously watching Power Rangers. In Space as far as I could tell was okay, but I hardly cared if I caught it or not. My favorite season would be Might Morphin' after the switch off of Jason, Zack, and Trini, for Rocky, Adam, and Aisha. They had the power of the Ninjetti, || I don't think that's spelled right || still had Kimberly, Aisha, and Billy as rangers and kept my attention. | #13 Jul 04th 2007, 12:01am | |
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JuseaPetersonI've been watching some Turbo and it's not as bad as I remember. I think the new rangers got a lot of bad reps for nothing, they are awesome.I have to see more of the MM seasons again, so.... But even though I thought the Ninjetti thing was cool, but not really anything compared to NS, so... | #14 Jul 06th 2007, 9:55pm | |
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Black into BlueI'll have to watch more Turbo 2 then. They all seemed cool in PRIS but I'unno, they just didn't float my boat back in Turbo.I'll have to catch some Ninja Storm though. But, don't they only have three rangers? That's so weird. Anyone have episodes they recommend? | #15 Jul 06th 2007, 10:20pm | |
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JuseaPetersonSame with me. When I first watched it I didn't really care for them, but now I kind of do so...There were three, but then two came in and then the last one. Certain episodes for what? NS? Well the whole season was awesome. But maybe Thunder Strangers, Return of Thunder. What kind of thing are you aiming for? Episodes for characters, ninja stuff, relationships of any kinds? | #16 Jul 07th 2007, 10:46pm | |
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Black into BlueOh, yeah. Sorry for not pointing that out. For NS. I'll probably just try and watch episodes tthat I do manage to find, and hopefully, it'll all piece together, if I can't watch it in order. I think i've actually seen a couple episodes, but I'd like to watch them over since I really can't make out what happened in any of them. But thanks for the suggestions. I'll probably watch those first. | #17 Jul 07th 2007, 11:20pm | |
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JuseaPetersonNo problem.Yeah, it should be easy enough, but you can ask me any questions if you need to about it. Let me know about what you think. | #18 Jul 10th 2007, 7:12am | |
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Superspyder CJWhat made me mad about Turbo is that they didn't give TJ and his team the whole season. And the movie, too.I'm sorry, it's just that TJ is my favorite Red Ranger of all time and I'm steamed that he doesn't get the credit he deserves(I blame the Phantom Ranger...sorry, JP!) So yeah, that's about it. CJ P.S. Anybody want me to rewrite the Turbo series? 'Cause I'm more than willing to do it. | #19 Jan 11th 2008, 4:19pm | |
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Black into BlueOkay. So I watched a couple Turbo2 episodes and it wasn't as bad as I remember. TJ was cool, I admit, and he was a good leader. As for rewriting the Turbo series? I wouldn't mind you doing so, as long as it wasn't completely like the episodes. I I'd be more up for RPing a new series or something, though I don't exactly know how that'd work out. So, if anyone has a storyline they're interested in in pursuing, gimme a holler. Ad also hollerif you have any good stories. | #20 Jan 11th 2008, 4:31pm | |
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JuseaPeterson*gasp* How could you blame the Phantom Ranger? I can't believe you. LOL. That's okay. Although I wouldn't blame him because he was only in a few, the people just didn't like him because he took their beloved Tommy's place (that's who I blame).I agree with Black into Blue, it would be cool to see a rewrite, but not have the same episodes, change things a bit. Black into Blue: Really? That's cool. TJ is cool and a good leader. Like coming up with all new rangers or something? | #21 Jan 14th 2008, 12:34pm | |
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Spoony SpoonersonI would never regard Turbo as being bad. But there are reasons why I don't like it as much as some other seasons. The first being the new "comical approach" they took to the show, it wasn't as serious and didn't work for me. The second is that the show relied too heavily on Sentai footage that was obvious and did not blend in well. The third being Justin, he also did not fit in. All that stuff about him being a genius, and growing as he morphs? It is for those reasons and possibly more that they tried to end the show with CTD. I still maintain that if they hadn't messed around with Turbo, we'd have had Zordon and previous baddies floating around for a lot longer.| #22 Jan 23rd 2008, 11:00am . Edited Jan 24th 2008, 10:19am | |
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JuseaPetersonAre you talking about just the Turbo season? Because Justin wasn't in Zeo. Anyways, I like comical, but I like seriousness too, a nice blend would be good.What do you mean if they hadn't messed with Turbo then Zordon and other baddies would still be around? Sorry, just want to make sure I know what you're talking about. | #23 Jan 23rd 2008, 12:28pm | |
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Spoony SpoonersonThey wanted to round off power rangers by closing off all storylines in Countdown To Destruction due to poor ratings in Turbo. In my opinion (and many other's opinions) if Turbo hadn't been tarnished (to some) by the comical nature and Justin etc. then chances are that Zordon would have been there a lot longer, and not killed off as a dramatic way to end the show. They decided half way through Turbo that PRIS would be the last season, and had it planned all along. All I'm saying is they killed off those characters to round off the show, if they hadn't done that (because of Turbo), we might have seen Zedd again. And Zordon, and many others.| #24 Jan 24th 2008, 10:18am | |
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JuseaPetersonOh, okay I see what you're saying. I don't know, I mean to keep Zordon around, it's just I think that would really get old. Then he would be everywhere. And for villians having the same ones come back? I just don't think that's a good idea.I personally am glad that Space ended the way it did. | #25 Jan 25th 2008, 11:12am | |
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Superspyder CJMe too. It was sad to see Zordon go, but at least he killed most of the bad guys.And besides, doing the same thing over and over again gets boring. I mean, would we really want 15 seasons of MMPR? Catch ya later, CJ | #26 Jan 25th 2008, 12:11pm | |
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Spoony SpoonersonI know Zordon would not always be there, heck, he would never have made it into Wild Force. But not killing these characters off leaves the door open for returns. Who here would have loved it if in "Once A Ranger" Zordon had showed up? Me for one. Countdown To Destruction were good episodes, and I'm not saying they shouldn't have existed. But leaving the door open wouldn't have hurt would it?I'm not wishing any of the seasons gone, but yes; 15 seasons of MMPR would be lovely, thanks | #27 Jan 25th 2008, 3:47pm | |
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JuseaPetersonSuperspyder CJ: He did kill most of the bad guys, so that was cool. Spoony Spoonerson: I don't know, Zordon played favorites, so...I'm kind of glad he didn't come back. I suppose it would have been cool, but I didn't miss him. And to have the same incompetent villians come back? No thanks. They had their time and it's just cool knowing what they contributed and leaving it as such. I'm sorry but I'm glad that MM didn't continue. I enjoy the new story lines and the new characters, it gives a lot more to it. | #28 Jan 28th 2008, 7:49am | |
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Spoony SpoonersonI'm not saying in any way that everything should have stayed the same. However, Zordon's death was ill explained by the show and has left fan made theories to account for it. And I am not implying that every season should involve Rita and Zedd. But the way they did it was so final that it was hard to continue the show after they tried to end it. LG tried to start a new with almost no relation to the glorious series' that preceeded it. I liked Rita and Zedd popping up occaisionally in Zeo. I chuckled in amusement at the competetiveness of Divatox and Astronema. Classic people could have re appeared if it wasn't for the way CTD happened, which was a result of (wait for it): TURBO!| #29 Jan 28th 2008, 8:20am | |
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JuseaPetersonOkay. How was Zordon's death ill explained, I thought it made sense. Could you please explain what you mean by that? Sorry.Well Rita and Zedd coming up every now and then in Zeo was cool and then seeing them in Space was cool. And of course seeing Divatox in Space was cool too. They might have been able to pull it off with bringing them back, and you know what I'd probably have liked it, but maybe it's because I didn't watch PR straight and so coming back and watching all of them makes it different then otherwise? I don't know. Sure it was from Turbo that the ratings went down, but I liked that season. I liked the four new rangers it introduced, the Phantom Ranger. I don't know, I suppose it just depends on the people. | #30 Jan 28th 2008, 10:29am | |
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Spoony SpoonersonZordon's death, it's hard to explain. Many people (like myself) are in the mindset that Zordon was trapped in a time warp, so destroying the tube does nothing other than destroying the signal. Others say he was released, therefore could be captured. But how could his energy be drained? He destroyed (what we understood) was all evil. So now all other series either have to work around that by saying they were imprisoned or ignore them, either way this doesn't work really. Or they were created later.As for Turbo. I wasn't really impressed with the new rangers, at least not until PRIS. The phantom ranger in my opinion was weird, ill explained and dull. His mystery echoes the gold ranger when we were first introduced to him. | #31 Jan 28th 2008, 11:21am | |
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JuseaPetersonI will say that when I saw they were continuing with PR, I was like aren't all villians destroyed? But then you think about how big the Universe is and well...who's to say Zordon's energy went all that way to...well everywhere? I mean Scorpius was a ways off, Mutiny was in the Lost Galaxy, the demons had to be released, Ransik and Nadira were from the future, the orgs came back, Lothor was a ways away, Mesogog had just recently come to be, Grumm is in the future, the master was locked in a magical world and the villians for OO were elsewhere. So it's not that complicated to see that Zordon didn't destroy all of them.I will say that when they had that episode, I can't remember the name, but it was the one with the jackets Ashley made, I didn't like that one. But in Song of Confusion is when I started to like Cassie and The Count and Carlos (or whatever it's called) is when I started to like Carlos. Space is where I really got to know the characters and start liking them. Seeing episodes from Turbo now, maybe it's knowing what I do, but I like them. I didn't really consider the Phantom like the gold ranger, the Phantom was more mysterious and gave a different edge to the show. I do wish they had gone more into him and stuff, although apparantly they were going to show who he was at the end of Space, but that was something that got cut, so... | #32 Jan 29th 2008, 6:20am | |
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Spoony SpoonersonExactly, my point exactly. Because they shot themselves in the foot in that way, now every new villain has to have been locked away somehwere or from the future, making them exempt from the Z wave. Either that or the writers just introduce them as normal, hoping that we will trust that the universe is so large they wern't touched. Okay, Mesogog was a great villain. But most of them have been locked away somewhere. LR, WF, NS (I think), MF and OO all contain villains that have little story other than a group of unnamed young warriors locked locked them away. That started with Ivan Ooze, and now just about every villain has done it.| #33 Jan 29th 2008, 11:47am | |
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JuseaPetersonWell I personally can believe that the universe is bigger than his wave, I will say that when I did think more about it I did wonder if it had gotten all of them. I don't think Mesogog was a great villian, but...With Wild Force, Master Org was locked away, but orgs in general occur with a lot of pollution and such, I thought. Ninja Storm, Lothor wasn't locked away, he had gotten sent away in a bubble, which he obviously got out of and then recuited monsters and such to come back and take over Earth. Operation they weren't locked away. Flurious and Moltar got sent to other planets whereas the Fearcats (okay most of them were locked in another dimension) but there were some that were out and about as well as Kamdor, until he got imprisoned in the necklace--but that was after the wave. And technically Grumm was around in 2004 so, who knows how long before that. | #34 Jan 30th 2008, 6:26am | |
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Spoony SpoonersonFor once I'd like to see a villain that wasn't locked/imprisoned/banished or whatever. That is a rare thing to come by nowerdays. Zordon's words were "Only the good energy in my tube can defeat the forces of evil." Well that kinda goes both ways really. He didn't mention wiping out every trace of evil ever known, but neither did he mention his wave being restricted to the United Alliance Of Evil.| #35 Jan 30th 2008, 7:33am | |
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JuseaPetersonHow else are villians going to come in if not locked/imprisoned/banished/mutated? True, he didn't say it was only the Alliance, and nothing from afterwards would tell you that those villians were close enough for the wave. | #36 Jan 30th 2008, 1:19pm | |
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Spoony SpoonersonThere was a simpler time when villains could just appear without much explanation. Machine Empire? Divatox? After taking over another planet, they turn their eye to Earth. Now it can't be done (except in the future). Christ I miss the old days!| #37 Jan 30th 2008, 2:06pm | |
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JuseaPetersonI don't know, I like when villians actually have a story, a reason instead of just being there for the rangers to fight. It just adds more to it.| #38 Jan 31st 2008, 5:54am | |
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Superspyder CJI agree with Jusea. I mean, these guys have to have a reason for being evil,right?You just don't wake up and say, "I'm going to take over the world!" And besides, if Zordon's wave wiped out ALL of the evil everywhere, someone else would hear about the villians and covet the power that they had. Power is the ultimate asphoridac(I think I spelled that right.) That's all, CJ P.S. What about falling into a deep slumber? That works. | #39 Jan 31st 2008, 1:52pm | |
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JuseaPetersonThanks. Evil couldn't have been entirely wiped out. I mean I don't see how when Zordon's wave happened it wiped out any potential for anyone to be evil. If someone wants power, they will go after it.A deep slumber for the villians? | #40 Feb 01st 2008, 6:17am | |
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Spoony SpoonersonOkay, back story seems to be preffered among fans, but could I remind you that some of the most popular villains had little back stories? Rita Repulsa and Zedd? Astronema? Divatox? Grumm? Whether or not you or I like all of these villains is irrelevant, but it proves that back stories do not make the villain, or the villain popular. Lothor had something of a story to him right? And as far as I remember he was one of the least liked among villains (due to comical nature). Most villains now allegedly have been around for hundreds/thousands of years, and so making them alive during the events of CTD (whether it hit them or not is irrelevant), but the only villains that were definately created after CTD was Ransik. I'm unsure as to whether it was announced when Anton Mercer became Mesogog, or when Grumm came to be. But apparently most of these villains have been evil for years. So back to my original point: this complication with villains would never of happened if it wasn't from the poor ratings Turbo accumulated because of it's many faults.| #41 Feb 02nd 2008, 11:14am | |
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JuseaPetersonI will give you the point that the popular isn't always the one that has the most depth to them. However Astronema did indeed have a big backstory--Andros and Karone? KO-35? Kidnapped when younger. And Divatox, there is a lot there that they didn't go into like her being kidnapped. So, there is the history with most villians you just don't always get into it.The demons and orgs were around for a long time, but they weren't a constant thing, they were there and then absent until recent years. I don't recall any villian being alive for hundreds/thousands of years except Rita, Zedd, Maligore, Dark Spectre, the Master and you can consider the demons and orgs (but technically they're not really human). Lothor was I think, if calculating right, before Zordon and in fact any of the MM rangers were even born. And he was gone, off to other worlds and such where Zordon couldn't reach. Mesogog had to have been but a few years before DT--check out the flashback. Grumm, that's who he is, so him going and conquering worlds--not to weird. I guess what I'm just saying that Zordon was powerful yes, but not so powerful that his wave reached every bit of evil in every single being or living type of thing in all the galaxies--that's a bit far fetched to believe that don't you think? I mean Zordon reaches as far as he can, then LG happens where the villians are from somewhere else. I personally don't see any complication with the villians simply because evil happens and it will continue happening, unless Zordon's wave made every indiviual living thing perfect, evil will happen. | #42 Feb 05th 2008, 5:58am | |
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Spoony SpoonersonExactly. Nearly every villain for some reason as been around before CTD, and only surface when a) their imprisonment/banishment ends for some/no apparent reason b) a new set of rangers is formed or c) they just appear. Okay, I will admit that not all of them should have been touched, but the villain status has become so formulaic. If the villain for Jungle Fury wasn't imprisoned or kept from world domination at some point, I'll eat my hat.Divatox had little back story to her, it was said that Dimitria had a sister, and since her and divatox were played by the same actress, and Divatox may have been told the same, somehow it was official among fans that Divatox had been captured at an early age. Astronema, yeah okay there was some backstory. She was captured on her home planet, offending monster revealed, her brother is Andros. That's about the same backstory as Sky - Dad = red ranger, died, monster revealed. Or Rita Repulsa? Coin toss, imprisoned. Boss is Lord Zedd. | #43 Feb 05th 2008, 11:31am | |
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JuseaPetersonBut I don't see how else you want the villian to come about? I mean villians are about power and revenge generally. One or both of those are the main points in them being or becoming a villian. Rita, Zedd, Machine Empire all wanted power. Divatox-revenge. Astronema-power and revenge (for a while). Scorpius-power. Trakeena-revenge. Bansheera-power and revenge. Ransik-revenge. Master Org-power and revenge. Lothor-power and revenge. Mesogog-power. Grumm-power and revenge. The Master-power. Flurious, Moltar, Fearcats, Kamdor and Miratrix-power. So at some point or another they were banished and were free--usually it says how, or come back--and it says how.Just appearing, they haven't done that one yet. I mean what other villian has just appeared out of nowhere? I don't really count Zedd or the Machine Empire because they were around before and they came for power. But even if they are just newly made a villian, they still want it for power or revenge. So, if you can think of other reasons for villians, can you let me know because I'm stumped as to how else they would come. Divatox did, you're right. I think that is the way they wanted to go because after Divatox was changed back she was wearing a dress similar to Dimitria, but we'll never know for certain. I don't really see Sky and Astronema being the same. Karone was kidnapped and was told that the red ranger had killed her parents and brother. She was raised evil and then found her brother. Sky's Dad went into battle and was killed and Sky knew that and then he found out later who the monster was and beat him. I mean Astronema/Andros's story was a huge thing in Space, the Sky thing wasn't so big. It wasn't like Sky was out there searching for his Dad's killer or anything. Rita did have a backstory with Zordon. And she was released, so... | #44 Feb 06th 2008, 7:31am | |
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Spoony SpoonersonI'm not saying that no villains ever should be imprisoned. I'm saying that since CTD, it seems to be the trend for that to happen. Divatox wanted revenge on rangers, not specifically on Earth as such. The "backstory" is now pretty much the same, the only thing being how they were imprisoned. And people can "wake up and decide to be evil" otherwise we'd be left with Astronema, Divatox and Mesogog. It may say how, but rarely why. The Master, just broke free, Lothor the same.Zedd appeared to reprimand Rita for her pitiful job of capturing Earth. Mondo just appeared. There's no debating it. He may have been around before (but no mention of him), so as far as the show is concerned he just turned up at episode one of Zeo. And aside from Mesogog, just about every villain has been around for years and years, but never heard of or mentioned before. Sky and Astronema's backstory is similar in terms of depth. Sky liked his dad, aspired to be like him, dad died. Sky became a ranger, found his dad's killer and brought him to justice. Astronema was kidnapped and turned evil, she became good temporarily, then was turned evil again. They both have events happening prior to the show that affects the character, they have the events that last for one episode (or two) and then after that's finished it's more or less forgotten about. Rita, her history is shaky. It was never fully explained what happened with the coin toss, she betrayed him? She (and Ivan Ooze) were captured (on seperate occasions) and were uleashed by man. Okay Bansheera had that, but the rest of them were pretty much self awoken/unleashed. | #45 Feb 06th 2008, 10:55am | |
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JuseaPetersonRight. When I said Divatox wanted revenge I didn't mean the whole Earth, but the rangers.You're right about Mondo. He did just appear, Zedd and Rita make it quite obvious that they know who they are, but they were just there. And I can understand about them not being heard of or mentioned of before--Earth in general has a blind eye to a lot of things, so unless someone does research they won't know. Okay, I can see what you're saying with Sky and Astronema, but I don't think that the whole Astronema/Karone and Andros thing disappeared after two episodes. Okay, so Rita you don't know that much about. But don't forget the demons were unleased by man. The orgs were created by man. Lothor, you know he got sent away, but lots could have happened that you can assume. The Master by an earthquake. The villians of OO were brought about by a power hungry treasure hunt. I just don't see how else they could do it. I mean every villian has a backstory, you know? | #46 Feb 06th 2008, 1:09pm | |
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Superspyder CJRight. Every supervillian in the world either wants power or revenge. Or both...Here's another thing. Why do people rag on Justin so much? I admit, there were some times that I wanted to kick him like a football, but he was a pretty good Blue Ranger. Though not as good as Billy... Just think about it, CJ P.S. And don't hate on Phantom, either...he's cool! ^_^ | #47 Feb 15th 2008, 12:51pm | |
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JuseaPetersonExactly.I don't know. I didn't like Justin when I was younger, but upon watching them again, he's not bad at all, so... The Phantom is awesome. | #48 Feb 20th 2008, 11:57am | |
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Superspyder CJJusea: Yeah, everyone in Turbo was awesome.Spoony: Referring to the imprisonment thing...well, wasn't Rita, one of the greatest bad guys in PR history, locked in a dumpster? And didn't she have a history with Zordon? So what was the big deal? I'm just saying. Anyway, peace out. CJ | #49 Feb 20th 2008, 11:32pm | |
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JuseaPetersonI hear you.Good point on Rita. | #50 Feb 21st 2008, 12:44pm | |
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