MinaxKilik

YunsungxTalim

SiegfriedxCassandra

Now, do I really NEED a reason why? No, I don't, I just think that'd be cute, that's all.

Discuss.

KilikXXianghua (They're an obvious couple)

SophitiaXSiegfried (I don't know why, and, yes, I know she's married and gots two bundles of joy!)

Yeah... that's all I could think of right now.

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there my favs but I agree with the sentiment that any girl works well with Siegfried. Hes just that cool.

First off, if we look at this astrologically, Ivy and Siegfried are VERY comaptible according to their signs. A Sagittarius (Ivy) fits vert well with an Aquarius (Siegfried), or so I've read. With this theory in mind, Sieg's actually compatible with Raphael too, but I'll get to that pairing in a minute... XD

Secondly, their stories actually tie into each other's in SCIII. If I remember Ivy's prologue and Tales of Souls mode story correctly, it states that she is after Siegfried to find out more about Soul Calibur. Now all we need to find out is if she does get any info from Sieg and if anything starts "brewing" between them afterwards, but all this juicy story information won't be revealed until SCIV comes out and we find out the true ending to SCIII. =3 Furthermore, they have met in the past, though we all know that Ivy is not too fond of Nightmare. She has no idea that Siegfried WAS Nightmare, so maybe this romance won't be exactly fairy-tale-perfect... ;) I'd say this pairing is very probable, but Namco is too stupid to realize this already.

Next, we have their abundance of similarities. They're both very involved with Soul Edge, they both have daddy issues, they both are powerful fighters who wield rather unique weapons, and most of all, I consider them both to be the sexiest characters in the series. ;D We can also look at their differences, which don't really clash too much against each other-- Ivy seems tarty, cold, and darkly humorous at times, but nevertheless elegant and intelligent. Siegfried, on the other hand, is a determined and serious person, though I'd like to think he's also the kind of man who occasionally lets his emotions overwhelm him (but not to the point where he becomes a wansty weenie-boy like our friend Kilik or a stupid emo ** like too many people these days like to associate poor Sieg with) and who'd proabably succumb to temptation (perfect for a lady like Ivy! XD), plus he's probably quite introverted. I think their personalities compliment each other almost perfectly. Dominance and elegance meets emotional determination and vulnerability... Sounds like my kind of pairing. ;3

This ties into the personality part of Ivy and Sieg's compatibility-- The fact that they both are cursed by Soul Edge and are seeking to free themselves of the darkness... I'd say because Siegfried determines that living is his redemption in his SCIII "good" ending, he now probably seeks someone else who has a similar mission to help him make sure Soul Edge stays sealed forever so that he won't have to worry about becoming possessed ever again. Ivy, like I said before, is actually looking for Siegfried to help her destroy the evil sword. I'd say that both of them are filling each other's gaps, making each other whole again. Sounds cheesy and cliche, but hey, let me have my stupid fantasies. =P

Lastly, here is the reason why people seem to think IvyxSiegfried can't work; Ivy is 4 inches taller AND 9 years older than Siegfried. SO WHAT?! We've got 40-year-old men with girls that are half their age, and far too many couples have the male towering over the female... What's so wrong about a 32-year-old woman with a 23 year-old man? Ok, I know it sounds weird, but... Ivy barely seems to be aging anyhow, and besides, a 9-year age difference is WAY better than a 20-year difference. o__o Plus, why DOES the male always have to be the taller and/or older one? I'd say this pairing is refreshingly unorthodox. =)

Now, I'd like to see someone try and prove to me that SiegfriedxCassandra is a better pairing than IvyxSieg, or even probable/compatible in the first place. =P Plus, SiegxSophitia might have worked back in maybe... SOUL BLADE. But Siegfried blew his chances of being with a girl by going nuts and later becoming possessed by Soul Edge, and Sophie married a blacksmith after SC1 anyway. Any other SC female other than Ivy just doesn't seem to fit with Siegfried very well in my mind.

On RaphaelxSiegfried... I only like it for ** and giggles. XD I KNOW it's highly improable, that Namco probably won't make any of their characters gay, and that they're sort of rivals (I wouldn't exactly say Raph and Sieg are sworn enemies just yet). There's just something amusing about this pairing that I can't quite put a finger on... But I'm indoubtably a huge IvyxSiegfried supporter and fan anyhow.

That was my pointless rant for the day. =)

First, power to you IvyxSieg people because i agree that the pairing looks good but its not my FAVORITE parsay. They work well but I just don't like it quite as much (mostly because i find Ivy somewhat obnoxious but thats a personal issue and can't be used in a discussion as valid).

Second, I never want Namco to pair any of its characters up in game, ever. I already loath them for doing that to Kilik and Xiagnhua or how ever you spell her name. I think they should never pair up there characters in game because it make life difficult for us fanfic writers who want to have a romantic substory. Plus as soon as one pair is seen in the game then everyone will have that pairing in their stories. Thats why i sort of like the Soul Calibur Fanfiction section. Its not like some of the others where you see like one or two main pairings and thats it. Here I have seen (to list a few) Sieg with Cass, Taki, Soph, Ivy, Tira, and I think i might have even seen on with Talim. and thats just a cursory glance through my memory and only those with Sieg. I think that we should encourage this diversity. You are entitaled to your favorite pairing and I encourage you to write stories about it so that the whole Soul Calibur community can grow but I think trying to come up with a BEST pairing is a waste of time that can only harm the group.

All that said here is why I like SiegxSoph and you can pick apart my argument if you want, I don't care to much.

First of all Sophitia seems like the kind of person who would show understanding towards Siegfried and help him help himself conquer his inner demons. Not precisely step in for him but encourage him and show him that he has the power to vanquish his sins. The I think is the most logical course by which Siegfried would conquer his past. The only other female character I can really see doing that is Talim and, I'm sorry, but that makes me think statutory rape and thats not something I like to think of.

Also Siegrfried and Sophitia are right next to each other alphabetically and i know that is meaningless but its just something I really like for some reason, must be must obsessive compulsive half. Also, from a philsophical stand point they're similar but not the exact same. Siegfried is someone who sees justice as cold and harsh but believes in it. While Sophitia sees justice as warm and forgiving and believes in it. Its that slight difference in being similar that I feel makes them work so well. I mostly look at them from the philosophic standpoint and i can see them getting in a few good arguments but always in the end consoling there difference which seems like the logical place for a relationship to start from. I would also mention that they both have someone who uses a very similar moveset (Sieg/Night Soph/Cass) and other fairly mundane similarities like that but the only justification i need is in their thought processes.

Now there is of course the whole Sophitia being married but their are thousands of solutions for that some less subtle then others (I do not condone Rothion being murdered), it is up to the writer of such pairing to come up with a solution as i have come up with mine. Personally almost all the pairings take a bit of finagling in order to get them to work but none more obviously then those involving Sophitia.

I am not trying to convert anyone to Alextauffen or Sophried or what ever the hell you want to call it. I merely am trying to make the case that it can be justified and that you should look at every pairing as justifiable if properly written (even some thing like,ooooh Seong Mina and Siegfried, just to pull one out of my butt) and its by having a wide varity of such groupings that this segment of fanfics can grow and offer something for everyone. It don't wish so much to put forward my own pair as much as to encourage others to put forward their.

and thats my seventy five cents on the subject

~Breaeden Swordwind

Now I must admit that I never played SC3 before and only touched SC2 in the arcades. And I gather my information from the Namco websites and here - ffnet!

Firstly, what's wrong with Xianghua and Kilik? Like I said, I never really played SC2 or 3, but when I played SC1, I thought they were quite compatible with each other. And their backstories really suggest that there is a possibility that they might get together. They both come from the same place; it's fate that they met. Plus they are connected by Xianglian, Xianghua's sister and Kilik's lost love. Kilik and Xianghua are NOT siblings, like some fiction claim. Grr.

So, who's everybody's favorite pairings? Mine are probably:

MinaxKilik

As much as I hate to admit it, this was actually my first favourite pairing when i first stepped into this world of fanfiction-dom. There were some really nice fics a few years ago (haha.) but you hardly see them nowadays. That's because.. it doesn't work. Probably it couls still work in SC1, but Kilik and Mina has and will find their rightful partners. I admit, they look good together and they probably could have something going on. But it's another classic case of wrong place, wrong time. It's sweet to read this pairing, but my loyalties lie with..

Hwang and Mina!

Who remembers Hwang from SC1?? He's been cruelly replaced by Xianghua. I'm joking.. but he has been phased out by Namco. (And Mina was almost replaced by Kilik. Again, this suggests something?) Anyway, I like this love-hate thing going on between them. They will never become your peaceful neighbour-next-door kinda couple; their relationship will forever be changing - but that is what keeps the passion in the relationship, right? Their star signs (Leo and Scorpio) suggests that they will have some power struggle but they will have a great relationship if they overcome all their obstacles. And this is what makes fanfiction fodder, isn't it?

Also, though there is no mention love in the Talim/Yun Seong backstories they do appear in each others back story and they are part of each other tales of souls mode. Though that does not mean they have to be paired together. Variaty must never die!

~Breaeden Swordwind

Kilik/Xianghua

Maxi/Setsuka

Yunsung/Talim or Cassandra

Siegfried/Ivy or Cassandra

Raphael/Ivy

Zasalamel/Cassandra (sounds weird)

Hwang/Mina

They're both out for Revenge, They're both crap when I play them, Like they were made for each other! I give my support to MaxlXSetsuka.

Going mostly by how much they interact in the game, I can see Kilik and Xianghua working, as well as Yun Seong and Talim. I heard somewhere that Yun Seong and Seong Mi-Na are siblings, but then I looked up Yun Seong, and his actual last name is Hong. Can anyone shed some light on this issue? I'd like to know if Yun Seong and Seong Mi-Na are compatible pairings. As far as Seong Mi-Na and Kilik go, I don't see anything against it, but I don't see anything for it either (e.g. They don't interact).

Siegfried is my main man, and I can see him with a number of girls - Ivy for reasons mentioned above, Sophitia for reasons mentioned above, and possibly Cassandra, though I'm not sure she'd warm up to him. I could see Siegfried and Tira as well, but she doesn't exactly seem like the loving type. More likely, I'd see Tira and Nightmare or Tira and Voldo. Maybe Tira and Zasalamel as well, but he's probably buried many wives, and isn't in the mood to add any to the list.

I also see potential for a Mitsurugi, Taki and Setsuka love triangle, but either relationships would be love/hate at best, and would really depend on which emotions prevails in the end. The idea for Yoshimitsu to fill in for whichever girl is left behind is really something I thought of for ** and giggles, and probably wouldn't work since he's not technically from the same universe even.

Raphael and Amy is a paternal relationship. Unless the author decides it's not. Heck, you like lolicon, go for it. I'm glad they made Amy into a playable character in 3.

Also, has everyone forgotten about the most attainable man in the game - the single father, Nathaniel "Rock" Adams? I could see someone like Cassandra, or maybe even Ivy going for someone like him. I'd say Sophitia too, but her marriage complicates that even more than other pairings with her in it precisely because of the single father aspect.

Siegfried and Cassandra... somehow they seem good together

Kilik and Xianghua... it's canon but when i was first introduced to the series i kinda knew it would be

Sophitia and Rothion... it would be cool if he was playable... he could be the new random weapons character for SC4! Or maybe he'd be the shop owner in another SC game

Soul Edge (Male) and Soul Edge (Female)... okay just kidding here. But um... does this mean that Soul Edge is a... nvm...

Raphael and Amy... okay don't hate me for this one! Somehow she seems like more to Raphael than just a daughter. Plus, we all know that pedaphilia was VERY common back in noble France. Or most of Europe actually.

Mitsurugi and Taki... oh boy this is gunna get flamed. Well she stalks him!!! Besides, you'd have to be nuts not to have that as a possibly cannon pairing plus... well... yeah. But it's cool to have them as rivals too!

My Favorite pairings are ...

Talim/Yun-Seong: Not because they only look good for each other, but it is their personalities that makes them an intereseting pair. Talim is sweet, nature-loving, and wants to destroy Soul Edge. While Yun-seong is rude, spunky, and wants to have Soul Edge. Making the relationship very steamy in some way. In their Bios, it mentions they got along pretty well with each other and Yun will always talk to her every chance he got, even though they had a bad start. They travel with each other and in their bios. In Soul calibur 4, he runs away when he felt Mina will drag him back home to Korea; at night when Talim and Mina are sound asleep. His only regret was that he didn't have a chance to say godbye to Talim. The next morning when they both woke up, of course he wasn't there and Talim felt upset he didn't say godbye to her. It is more obvious that Yun-Seong has a crush on Talim; even in her ending also hints she has a crush on him too.

Xianghua/Kilik: Well, they have always been together and Namco pratically told us they are an official pair. Great! They are good for each other and it also makes it very dramatic. Kilik killed his sworn sister (they are NOT related, just step) then he meets someone that looks just like Xianglian. They care about each other a lot. He wants to protect Xianghua at all cost, not because like a sister relationship, but because he loves her. She cares about him cause she loves him and wants to understand all the things he has been through. She makes him laugh and makes him forget about the painful memories, even if it is only a second. However, Kilik thinks he doesn't deserve her cause she reminds him too much of Xianglian. Yet, he can't get Xianghua out of his mind sometimes. So romantic. Lol, i think I might have exagerrated a bit on this one.

Hwang/Seong-Mina: They have been a pretty good pair. I mean, they are meant for each other. Sure that Mina didn't want to marry him, but that is because she was not ready yet. Hwang didn't have time to marry since he wanted to protect his home country, but that doesn't mean he didn't want to marry her, in fact, he didn't mind. They have been childhood friends and they both care for each other. When she ran away from home two times, Hwang got so worried that he left what he was doing to drag her back home since he didn't want her to die. Even in her ending she blushed when he took her back home. That was so epic. Saddly, Namco seemed to have forgotten Hwang and replace him with Yun-Seong. Which is one of the many reasons why Hwang fans hate Yun-seong.

There are many others, like Cassandra/Raphael and Taki/Mitsurugi pairings I like, but I am too lazy to list why I like the other pairs. some pairs i do dislike are Mina/Yun-Seong and Raphael/Amy because Mina and Yun-Seong treat each other like brother and sister, and yes, i know they are NOT related, so shut up. Raphael treats Amy like his daughter, nuff said.

Taki X Sophie.

Why? You can fit it creatively into the canon storyline if you consider how bloody difficult it was to travel anywhere during the time Soul Calibur is set, which is roughly 14th century (based off Talim's profile), and if you go into the theory of how sexuality is fluid and what happens when you put people under stress, what happens to emotions and the processes of the mind. Besides, I always didn't find anything fascinating about Mr. Sophitia Alexandra, I like shoujo-ai (Yuri is even better), and I think Taki and Sophie look cute together. Plus, you can throw into the whole dynamic how different their lives are. With Soul Calibur 4, it gets even better. The core conflict would have to be Sophitia trying to protect one of her children by defending Soul Edge, and Taki trying to destroy Soul Edge for the greater good.

BTW did I mention I think they're cute together?

during the time Soul Calibur is set, which is roughly 14th century (based off Talim's profile)

It is in the 16th century. Read below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soulcalibur

Where in Talim's bio said it is roughly in the 14th century?

Whoops, my bad. I forgot the 1500's were the 16th century, not 14th century (Yeesh, my professors will kill me, since history was my BA degree).

But usually, when I remember the 1500s were the 16th century, I base it off Talim's bio, which makes a reference to Spain conquering the Philippines. Since Ferdinand Magellan landed in Mactan Island on March 16, 1521 and subsequently died there thanks to Datu Lapu-Lapu (who never gets metioned by Pigafetta), and since later expeditions were sent and Intramuros was taken over and rebuilt roughly about less than a generation later, I placed the Soul series in the 16th century even before Namco released their timeline.

There, that's where the reference to talim's bio comes from.

Anyway, that's just tangent to the discussion.

I like Taki x Sophie.

When I turn into a shameless Otaku, I like Taki X Sophie X Cassie. Not a triangle, but a threesome. :P

But usually, when I remember the 1500s were the 16th century, I base it off Talim's bio, which makes a reference to Spain conquering the Philippines. Since Ferdinand Magellan landed in Mactan Island on March 16, 1521 and subsequently died there thanks to Datu Lapu-Lapu (who never gets metioned by Pigafetta), and since later expeditions were sent and Intramuros was taken over and rebuilt roughly about less than a generation later, I placed the Soul series in the 16th century even before Namco released their timeline.

Ah, well, that makes some sense to me now. Somewhere around Tal's profile In Soul Calibur II said that, but always confused about it.

When I turn into a shameless Otaku, I like Taki X Sophie X Cassie. Not a triangle, but a threesome. :P

Hahaha. Well, I don't like that threesome, but I am also somethimes a shameless what-ever-a-Otaku is. I like Maxi X Xianghua X Kilik and Taki X Setsuka X Shura and/or Mitsurugi. I also love foresomes like Hwang X Mina X Talim X Yunseong and Xianghua X Mina X Kilik X Maxi or Hwang. :P

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