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DeverienTopic: My name is what? My name is who? An open question to everyone: What techniques or conventions do you like to use when choosing a name for an original character (in FR fiction or otherwise)?Do you base the name on the character's traits, or vice versa? Do you pick a name because it sounds cool? A variation of a normal word or name? Steal it from somewhere else? Do tell, do tell. | #1 Jan 24th 2006, 7:37pm . Edited Jan 24th 2006, 7:39pm | |
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WitchWolfHuh... Depends. Sometimes, I'd just hear a name I like on the radio or Tv , write it down and use it at my conveniance. Other times, name generators can be helpful. Not that I ever actually use any silly name those come up with, but they do provide ideas. Real names are also *very* nice, and especially with the neverending flood of 'darkshadows', 'moonblades', 'goldleaves' and so on. A name with a meaning? Well... Yes. Sometimes. In some cultures, names are specifically designed to have a meaning - blessing for the kids that you give them to, 'nomen est omen' and so on. You find that in fantasy and in real life alike. Giving a name according to character traits and/or vice versa, though, is not something I'm terribly fond of. Not unless it's a nickname, if at all possible, pinned onto the character by some third party. Though, I do admit I'm guilty of doing it sometimes. ;) | #2 Jan 25th 2006, 12:06am | |
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WinterfoxI never base my characters' names on their traits, personality, etc. Ever. Because, well, it makes no sense: how would the parents have known what the child would be like when they name him/her? So... no. A nickname, or a name the character's chosen for herself, would be another story. (I've got two characters in my original fantasy with common nouns for names -- one, Solace, chose her own. The other, Rue, was named because she was an unwanted bastard child.)Otherwise, I string together random syllables and go with the combination that pleases me most. (Keeping in mind the cultural conventions surrounding the characters. My non-humans *all* have monosyllabic names.) I avoid last names like Moonsomething, Somethingblade, and so on and so forth, like the plague, and wince every time I see them. |
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WitchWolfVarious Moonsomethings can be annoying, about as much as anything that's so heavily overused. I maintain, though, tht sometimes, even those can be acceptable.... if used tastefully. But then, that, too, goes for just about anything, doesn't it?And as far as names with meanings go, as I said, in certain cultures names are specifically given to kids in hopes kids will be either protected by them or become mroe like their names. For instance, the name Wolf (Vuk in Serbian) used to be given thinking that wolves will consider such a child their kin, that the child will be strong like one and possibly protected by them, too. However, not all "wolves" turn wolves. WOuld be interesting, in fact, to have a really jinxed character named "Lucky" for instance. yeah, cheap example, but gets the point across, I think. |
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AuthoressinhidingI once got a name from a book I'd read a month or so ago, and thought it fit in my story. |
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WinterfoxWOuld be interesting, in fact, to have a really jinxed character named "Lucky" for instance. yeah, cheap example, but gets the point across, I think.Terry Pratchett's done this, with a family who names their daughters Chastity and Purity, their sons ** and so on. It was a passing, quirky mention, but amusing. |
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Dominique SottoMy favorite method nowadays is to go into the lists of Medieval names picked up from the period chronicles, records etc and use them as appropriate for the culture; I would substitute some letters if the name is not easy to read (Jorunn, Chiali). I do a mix-and-match syllables as well, and for the elves I use the standard D&D name generator/dictionaries (Keth'sim), making their names mean something, since those are their nicknames, really. Sometimes, I leaf Christopher's Tolkien's commentaries to the Unfinished Tales, and pick up the rejected/unused (or rarely used) names (Diriel). |
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Dominique SottoMy favorite method nowadays is to go into the lists of Medieval names picked up from the period chronicles, records etc and use them as appropriate for the culture; I would substitute some letters if the name is not easy to read (Jorunn, Chiali). I do a mix-and-match syllables as well, and for the elves I use the standard D&D name generator/dictionaries (Keth'sim), making their names mean something, since those are their nicknames, really. Sometimes, I leaf Christopher's Tolkien's commentaries to the Unfinished Tales, and pick up the rejected/unused (or rarely used) names (Diriel). |
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crushingskyI do names three different ways. I change the spelling of a common name so that it phoenetically sounds the same but the spelling gives it a different taste in the mouth.(Soshi becomes Soushee) I take a common name and drop/add/change a letter. (Curtis becomes Kuris, George becomes Jeorde). Or a combination of the two approaches. (Maya becomes Paya becomes Paeia)A good book on linguistics will usually have a chart of the syllables used in each language. It's pretty easy to just slap together the syllables and make your own name that still retains the flavour of the culture. | #9 Jan 27th 2006, 11:01pm | |
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crushingskyWinterfox wrote:I avoid last names like Moonsomething, Somethingblade, and so on and so forth, like the plague, and wince every time I see them. No kidding. It's especially bothersome when elves are known as 'moonflower' or 'malice' outside of their elven speaking culture. Most names have some historical meaning but... | #10 Jan 28th 2006, 3:11pm | |
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BerzerkerprimeUse real names, lift names from mythology, pound on the keyboard until I have something that looks pronounceable...Really, it just depends on my mood at the time. Unless, of course, there are already naming conventions in the universe that I'm playing with. I'll rot in a firey pit before I give a Tolkienian elf a name in something other than Sindarin or Quenya, for example. The nice thing about FR is that any method of coming up with a name seems to apply. Realms authors seem to do a mix themselves. Woo hoo! Freedom! ^_^ Berz. | #11 Jan 30th 2006, 7:37pm | |
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Winterfoxcrushingsky said:No kidding. It's especially bothersome when elves are known as 'moonflower' or 'malice' outside of their elven speaking culture. Most names have some historical meaning but... I've never gotten over Malice's name. I mean, the hell? If her name means "malice" in common, shouldn't it be in a Drowish word or whatever gibberish Salvatore comes up with and passes off as part of a cohesive language? If her name *is* Malice, as in the Common word for it, then... why? Why'd any drow name her daughter in Common? (Or Undercommon, as it may be.) Then again, Salvatore's the same guy who slaps names from (much better) literature all over his hack jobs willy-nilly. (Wulfgar from Beowulf, Artemis from Greek mythology, Tintagel from Arthurian, Elbereth and Luthien from Tolkien, and so on. Some people may think this is respectful homage; I just think it's retarded.) | #12 Jan 31st 2006, 8:55am | |
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WitchWolfAnd then, some people actually slapped together a whole drow names etimology thing right here:http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/drowcampaign/drowlanguage.html Actually, as a drow name "generator" it isn't at all bad. I've been using it all the time lately. Quite handy, and especially when I'm out of inspiration. | #13 Jan 31st 2006, 7:13pm | |
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Icy Mike MolsonI find it pretty ironic that I used that very same drow name generator for my little satire(which I think some of the fangirls are still having a hard time understanding that it is a satire....).| #14 Feb 01st 2006, 1:41pm . Edited Feb 01st 2006, 1:41pm | |
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Icy Mike MolsonWell, I pretty much refuse to write in Forgotten Realms, but...I have developedm my own world adn have decided on general cultural backgrounds for each nation. Using that as a starting point, for both people and communities I use names from that cutlture/nationality. For example, my elves are all Celtic, so for the most part I will use names from Celtic lore, mythology, and history. My Empire of Urhal is Russian based, so I simply looked up Russian names on the internet and went from there. I have a couple of different sites I use, but this one offers a wide range of both modern and medieval names: http://www.gamingeeks.org/Resources/KateMonk/ | #15 Feb 01st 2006, 1:45pm | |
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WitchWolfIf there are those who *didn't* get it it's a satire, then... *speachless*Anyway, giving names according to the culture is the whole point, no? In that same vein, I wouldn't mind an elf called "Moonsomething" as long as it's *elven* spelled. On the other hand, an elf named "Bob" would be pretty ridiculous. ;) Btw, Mike, I just tried that link, but it's not working. | #16 Feb 01st 2006, 1:55pm | |
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Icy Mike MolsonWhat? Bob isn't an appropriate elven name? Maybe I typed the link wrong, but try gaminggeeks.org and see wher eit takies you. Or maybe look up Kate Monk on google or something... | #17 Feb 01st 2006, 3:00pm | |
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WitchWolfWhat? Bob isn't an appropriate elven name? In a capmaign I'm running (or used to run anyway), one PC is a female elevn ranger named Rudy. Essentially, the name menas: "Yeah, I had a human adventuring companion once and I wanted my kid to bear his name and... Dammit, I was hoping for a boy!" So technically, yeah, even Bob might fit... if you can swallow it without coughing too much. ;) Thanks for the link. I'll try it out. edit: Tried it, and it's still not working. Think it might be broken. | #18 Feb 01st 2006, 3:12pm . Edited Feb 01st 2006, 5:08pm | |
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Deverienavoid last names like Moonsomething, Somethingblade, and so on and so forth, like the plagueOh crap, I'm a two-bit hack! I have one elf character with a name that I later found out marks her as an uber-Sue: 'Selena Shademoor'. Yeah, go ahead and hang me. I was already nearly finished the story when I learned how bad a name it was, and had a fit over whether or not I should change the name to something more bearable. In the end I figured spontaneously changing it wouldn't be a good move for me. Still, I recently thought of a way to work the stupidity of that name into a minor plot point that could resolve its irregularity... but I ought to put some more thought into this. Blargh. | #19 Feb 02nd 2006, 1:33pm | |
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Winterfox*hangs Deverien* To be absolutely fair, I've used "Ravensong" as a place name in my original fantasy (because, well, it used to be a necropolis where lots of ravens were kept. As sacred birds to pick corpses apart in funerals). My characters will just have to live with names made of random syllables. | #20 Feb 02nd 2006, 2:03pm | |
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BerzerkerprimeI suppose most here will want me to rot in hades for this, but I recently resurrected a setting from a short story I wrote in high school for a one-shot RPG adventure. Three of the main canon characters in the setting are names Styx, Cocytus, and Acheron. The short story itself has never seen the light of day but to get graded by my ninth grade english teacher, so I breifly pondered changing the names.But, I decided that the little bit of cheese was a part of the setting. Other names in the setting include Lyssa Greymalkin, Aolis, and Selket, which only make the cheese increase, but ce la vie. As for places, there's a small island off the southern coast of the continent with two major cities on it; Flaim and Marmo... At least it's supposed to be cheesy, being a comedic fantasy setting. ^_^; Berz. | #21 Feb 06th 2006, 3:44pm | |
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ze-poodleThe names I use in any sort of fiction always have some other meaning. It's silly, I know - no parent is logically going to name their child based on what they *will* be like - but I do it more as a hint to the reader than anything else. Often a really blunt, obvious, clichéd hint, but a hint nonetheless. I'll nick names from real-world historical figures - I called a tyrannical rapist Tarquin, which if anyone has read "The Rape of Lucrece" they're going to pick out instantly. Course, sometimes I just fiddle around with ordinary names to make them sound a little more fantasy-y. Like Alizebeth instead of Elizabeth. All I did was switch two letters around. Looks cool, though. | #22 Feb 06th 2006, 11:23pm | |
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DeverienThe names I use in any sort of fiction always have some other meaning. It's silly, I know - no parent is logically going to name their child based on what they *will* be like - but I do it more as a hint to the reader than anything elseI've done that before, giving characters' last names that hint toward what happens to them. I think I've since stopped doing that now. A few examples: (*Slight spoilers for my story 'Upon this Fateful Day'*) Treysen (Treason - guy betrays his Order) Ponn (Pawn - poor guy gets possessed, manipulated, and sacrificed) | #23 Feb 07th 2006, 7:56am . Edited Feb 07th 2006, 7:57am | |
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BlackstaffI do all sorts of things when picking names for characters. I'll use names from other books, and spell them a little different. I'll use names from mythology, medieval and arthurian legend. Sometimes I'll be weird and just words together. My favorite technique is using the names of old friends. Yes my techniques are unoriginal, but you know what, they work| #24 Mar 31st 2006, 7:09pm | |
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TobyKikamiEr. I admit it. In my current WIP there's going to eventually be a drow bard whose name in generatorese basically comes down to "love song" - possibly "love singer" (and then there's all the permutations involving the rather drastic alternate meaning). In my defense, the reader wouldn't know it unless they checked the generator - or else took a look at this post - and I could see an Eilistraeen priestess naming her kid something like that anyway. Then there's Ranaghar, who in keeping with the generatorese is rather screwed over. His was yanked off one of those lists they have in sourcebooks, websites, and the City of the Spider Queen web enhancement, so I feel a good bit more justified with that one. Right now I've got some names off the lists (avoiding ones like Drizzt and Zaknafein, natch) and some off the generator - and tried my hand at one mock-up. The meanings are more of an easter egg than anything else.I generally try to keep fanfic names to the pseudo-culture of the world, which can be rather strange with some of the shameless mixing that goes on in video games (i.e. knights fighting alongside ninjas). For something different outside of fanfic I just switch out letters, extend the syllables, run them through my mental Babelfish, etc. and jot down the results - I even have one character whose name originated from a Monster Rancher monster, but in a story context it's a one-letter tweak of his mother's name. I also have a Regin, who I shamelessly abducted from the original mythological context. | #25 Apr 02nd 2006, 9:13am . Edited Apr 02nd 2006, 9:18am | |
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Lady FellshotI'm would have to admit that I'm guilty of swiping syllables from Tolkien (I heart him ^.^) and the desciptive surnames. In my own defense, desciptive last names, particularly those referencing professions (Goodman Smith anyone?) are prevelent through many differnet cultures. I do have to agree though, Moon- anything, Blade- anything... so overused.Favorite name of the day: Alluquere | #26 May 21st 2006, 9:57pm | |
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BlackstaffI think J.R.R. Tolkien comes up with the best names.| #27 May 21st 2006, 10:21pm | |
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Surreptitious Chi XEr... I scramble together syllables until something with emotional resonance comes out. 'Is it a nice sound, a pretty sound, an ugly sound...' etc.| #28 Jul 16th 2007, 2:25pm | |
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BluestofangelsFor characters in Faerun I will look to names already mentioned in some sort of Faerun literature and mix up suffixes, switch letters between names, and then when I found a sound I like I modify it slightly. Most common modifications are creating more race/region appropriate spelling, creating pronunciation that is satisfying (whether harsh or pleasant in sound), or simply streamlining spelling for easy reading or shortening when being refered to in dialouge.-BoA. | #29 Jul 30th 2007, 10:35am | |
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